Re: The "If I have to hug one more princess" Universal ads

wannab@dis

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NemoRocks said:
Attendance may have been up in 2004, but it was down in 2005. That "may" have been due to several things... hurricanes and the HCOE included. But you are correct, Universal had "record" attendance in 2004.

The combined paid attendance for the company's two Orlando parks, Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure, was reported at 10,772,000. That's an 11 percent drop from 2004's record attendance. The decline also is steeper than observers had expected. Amusement Business, a trade magazine, reported in January an estimated 8.5 percent drop in attendance for Universal's Orlando parks last year.
 

wannab@dis

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pintraderpayee said:
So they can state their opinion as fact "Disney isn't keeping them up"......but I can't state my opinion as opinion "I think...." and "maybe you should....":confused:
Confused I am.



The section of your message that I quoted was fairly rude... especially the part about them not being able to read. :wave:
 

wannab@dis

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dxer07002 said:
Agreed... Someone should be able to post their feelings and opinions on here without being slammed... Too many people on this board have this elitest attitude about them that everyone is wrong but them... I respect people'e opinion about Universal.. I don't like the park and find it boring.. My opinion and I am entitled to state it... but the elitest attitude comes in and slams me for it... Why? Cause I do not agree??? Please people, let's get down off YOUR fake high horse and come to reality.. This is a Disney fan message board.. And if someone says they like or dislike Universal, no need to bash them, Right NemoRocks?? Who seems to like to slam me for stating my opinions...

OP: Disney wouldn't stoop to this level of going back and forth. they do not need to. Their name draws people to the park, as does the park itself..
Well, some of the posts bashing Universal have seemed out of line to me. I'm not selecting anyone out, but I did make the point about this being a Disney forum. I'm not a USF fan, but that doesn't mean others should share my opinion.

I've also noticed a lot of posts that are "worded" as fact but in reality, they are only subjective opinions. "universal sucks"... "just for teens"... "just for thrill seekers"... "another Six Flags"... all of those are subjective personal opinion.
 

Legacy

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Nicole said:
I'm just curious if there are Universal Studios fan sites like this one?? What do THEY think about the commercial?
Yes, there are actually several.

IOACentral and UniversalExcitement are the more popular ones.

And they don't really have a need to discuss the commercial.
 

Captain Chaos

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NemoRocks said:

I'll check out those links.. Thank you
And I don't try to pass them off as facts... Because I don't include IMO along with them? And when I broke down thatr comparison chart, I was usingm y feelings.. Just basically trying to show how UNiversal does slam Disney... When in reality, their comparisons do not hold merit... People can like Universal, that's fine... I don't care for it.. And if I ever do go, it is because I get in for nothing.. I will never spend 60 bucks to go to that park.... I rather take that money and go to SeaWorld.. Haven't been there in like 12 years... I think it is time to visit SeaWorld again...
 

Captain Chaos

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MouseMadness said:
I didnt' read through this all, :lol: :lookaroun but we do have a Universal Forum RIGHT HERE!

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=20

I enjoy Universal tremendously, being a coaster/thrill ride fan, but it isn't my destination when heading to Florida, just something I do one day. Still, I like it. *shrug*

I like thrill rides too... If I want thrill rides I will go to my local Six Flags.. More coasters there than Universal... And it would be cheaper... I prefer disney's entertainment that UNiversal's.. just my personal taste.... I cannot imagine speding 300 bucks to fly, or if driving , upwards of 500 for gas, and then hotel stay on universal properry just to ride 2 coasters and Spider-Man... Like I said, I would rather spend the 50 bucks and go to my local Six Flags...
 

Captain Chaos

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Looking at this comparison charts is embarrassing for Universal Orlando... I mean, not even 10 million visitors??? 6.1 Million???? Granted it is a lot of people, but when one of Disney's parks clobbers attendance ob USO and IOA together, that isn't good.... I think it proves my point... If DIsney was NOT there, Universal wouldn't be floating... I will safely assume majority of the visitiors to Universal did not go just for a Universal vacation, but more locals and a few people that did both Disney and Universal.. Numbers do not lie... 11 million total is not good... IOA not even in the top ten world wide... Disney has what, 7 of the first 10 spaces??? Hmmm... But Universal ROCKS!!!!!!! uh huh...
 

Miss Bell

New Member
err, about the comercial

I do wonder what the rest of the world (non-Disney junkies) think of those commercials. They are obviously not directed at people like us. I remember they had one about two years ago that took a dig at Tinker Bell--something negative about Pixie Dust. My now 14 year old daughter, who should really be just hitting the market for Universal, is still holding a grudge over that one. She won't even consider going there.
 

Captain Chaos

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To be honest Miss Bell, I can tell you how it is hitting some others...

We were having a discussion in work about Disney World.. A few co-workers are going this year... One person we work with loves Universal... We debate about the park all the time.. Nice, friendly debates... She knows I don't care for that park and that I love disney.... Anyway... We were sitting around today and I was discussing this forum and the commercials... One girl said she saw those commercials and her daughter said to her MOMMY I LOVE HUGGING THE PRINCESSES THAT GIRL MUST BE WEIRD.... And she is 8.. Another female also didn't like the commercial.. She said she felt the commercial targets the punk kids that obviouslyt think theya re too cool for Disney World... She stated if this is the kind of people UNiversal wants to attract, then she will never go again AND SHE LIKES THE PARK.. As for the girl who LOVES Universal... She too was turned off by the commercials... She said any girl of any age loves fairy tales.. She said no girl is too 'OLD' to hug a princess.... She agreed Universal was trying to taget the ounk kids and also said she would never visit the park again if that who they target..

So, it seems other people, NON-DISNEYPHILES such as us, also detest the commercials and think they portray the wrong image.... SO, umm.. yea UNIVERSAL ROCKS...

**cough 6.1 million visitors..**
 

Captain Chaos

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wannab@dis said:
Attendance may have been up in 2004, but it was down in 2005. That "may" have been due to several things... hurricanes and the HCOE included. But you are correct, Universal had "record" attendance in 2004.


Well... Universal will blame ANYTHING but themselves for their declining numbers... Remember, Disney is only right down the road from Universal and therefore were subject to the hurricanes too.... So, I won't read too much into hurricanes causing the huge drop in attendance for Universal, especially since Disney's attendance was UP during th hurricane season...... Could it be MAYBE people who saw Universal one time will not go back because they didn't like it?? That would lead to a huge drop in attendance...
 

CTXRover

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NemoRocks said:

The 14% increase was "artificial" based on adjusted numbers for 2003 from Amusement Business. When you look at 2003's original estimates, Universal actually saw a decline in 2004 as well, but supposedly the "newer" numbers were more in line with actual figures in Universal's portfolio, so I won't disagree with them much.

Either way, any gain in 2004 was wiped out in 2005. Officially, Universal dropped a whopping 11% in attendance in 2005, 2.5% more than what AB had estimated, which they actually blamed on gas prices in addition to WDW's celebration. Gas prices didn't keep visitors from flocking to WDW, and if Universal wants to continue being a strong competitor they need to look inwards before blaming outside factors...its what Disney did with DCA's performance from day 1. Fortunately, it looks like Iger and crew finally have the guts to publicly admit its lackluster performance and some big changes for the park are in place which is what DCA needed to help increase its attendance. Even the new Monster's Inc. attraction and Hollywood backlot spruce-up seem to be helping already. The total attendance now for both parks at UO combined is only 1.8 million more than what Universal Studios pulled in by itself in 1998 before IOA opened. Unfortunately, that isn't good no matter what spin you put on it. With nothing big for 2006 or probably even 2007 by the looks of it, UO may very well continue to struggle in the upcoming years. The new Suess attraction, originally scheduled for the park's opening, will be nice when it finally opens this summer, but it probably won't bring many new visitors to the parks.
 

FigmentJedi

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Again, I bring up a classic ad campaign from the 90's:
"Genesis does what Nintendon't!"
Universal is just acting like Sega was and look what happened to them.
Seriously, Universal has good stuff, mainly Spider-Man, Seuss Landing and Jurassic Park, but they need to be a bit more mature. The older "I want" commercials were much better.
 

Captain Chaos

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CTXRover said:
The 14% increase was "artificial" based on adjusted numbers for 2003 from Amusement Business. When you look at 2003's original estimates, Universal actually saw a decline in 2004 as well, but supposedly the "newer" numbers were more in line with actual figures in Universal's portfolio, so I won't disagree with them much.

Either way, any gain in 2004 was wiped out in 2005. Officially, Universal dropped a whopping 11% in attendance in 2005, 2.5% more than what AB had estimated, which they actually blamed on gas prices in addition to WDW's celebration. Gas prices didn't keep visitors from flocking to WDW, and if Universal wants to continue being a strong competitor they need to look inwards before blaming outside factors...its what Disney did with DCA's performance from day 1. Fortunately, it looks like Iger and crew finally have the guts to publicly admit its lackluster performance and some big changes for the park are in place which is what DCA needed to help increase its attendance. Even the new Monster's Inc. attraction and Hollywood backlot spruce-up seem to be helping already. The total attendance now for both parks at UO combined is only 1.8 million more than what Universal Studios pulled in by itself in 1998 before IOA opened. Unfortunately, that isn't good no matter what spin you put on it. With nothing big for 2006 or probably even 2007 by the looks of it, UO may very well continue to struggle in the upcoming years. The new Suess attraction, originally scheduled for the park's opening, will be nice when it finally opens this summer, but it probably won't bring many new visitors to the parks.

CTX thank you for that wonderful post.... Universal Studios, no matter which way it is spun, is a park with no imagination, creativity and direction.... And you all wonder why G.E. wants to dump the parks????
 

pintraderpayee

Active Member
wannab@dis said:
The section of your message that I quoted was fairly rude... especially the part about them not being able to read. :wave:

I said they couldn't read? I don't recall that my post had the word "illiterate" in it. Why would I be of the OPINION that they should read the history of Orlando if I thought they couldn't? Just my opinion, but shouldn't you have said "I think (think= opinion according to Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary) that the section of you message that I quoted was fairly rude?"

Back to the original post....No, I do not THINK that Disney will get back at Universal for their tasteless (IMHO) commercial.

I'm out...gotta go pack for my four days at WDW and one at IOA with 27 of my students....leaving in 36 hours on a school bus for 930 miles of smiles:)
 

tirian

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*yawn*

Too many people sound like fanboys. :hurl:

The O.P. regards the current commercial, not whether or not anybody prefers one resort over the other.
 

Legacy

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dxer07002 said:
CTX thank you for that wonderful post.... Universal Studios, no matter which way it is spun, is a park with no imagination, creativity and direction.... And you all wonder why G.E. wants to dump the parks????
Crap crap and crap.

You cannot tell me that the park that opened what is considered by MANY to be the most innovative and best ride in the world, the park that holds the first true dark-ride, coaster hybrid, and a park that in order to avoid straight lines actually brought in palm trees that were warped by Hurricane Andrew has no creativity or imagination. I'm not going to argue the directional aspect, but it can be justified considering the park has had three different owners since its creation 15 years ago. Turn around like that would normally have a bankrupt property immediately.

The fact that NBC/GE STILL haven't sold the parks is a testiment to their caliber. They could have dropped them immediately... but they are still making money. They are still interested in at least seeing how things play out.

Statements like what you just made, saying that there is no creativity or imagination involved with Universal is the one thing that aggrevates me more than anything in these discussions. I use to want to be an Imagineer, but I figured out that the style of my creativity is more in line with Universal. Not because I prefer the parks, but because I enjoy designing a different sense of whimsy.

Fairy tales and Pixie dust just aren't my thing.
 

Timmay

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CTX thank you for that wonderful post.... Universal Studios, no matter which way it is spun, is a park with no imagination, creativity and direction....

Clearly some are still having trouble understanding the difference between objective and subjective.
 

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