Re-Imagineered Crush's Coaster for DPS?

[nibblesandbits]

I really hope a Cars section gets built in Florida. I've said many times before the Cars is my favorite Disney/Animated movie and I would love to have a Radiator Springs section in MGM.

I agree. I think having a Radiator Springs built is a great idea. There are so many things they could do with that too. And what would be really cool would be seeing it at night. Since in the movie it was all neon...that could bode well for MGM (as it will always be to me) since the neon is one of the things that makes Tomrrowland so beautiful at night.

 

[WDWFigment]

You need to keep things fresh to boost attendance, too, so when your last $200+ million hit was Aladdin, it is only natural to go to the mega hits of the Disney Pixar films.

Not that it really makes a difference, but The Lion King was the last 200 million dollar hit, bringing in $312.86 million in its initial release. Still, your point is made.

I must also admit I was confused when I saw DPS, and I'm sort of wondering why it's being used. Although we may think it a foregone conclusion, until something is officially confirmed, this park is still Disney-MGM Studios.

Finally, I don't know about making attractions based on Cars and The Incredibles. While the Car characters may have huge lines (I might also contend that this is because they are so unique. Come on, a giant car character, who doesn't want their picture taken with that?!) and Incredibles is still popular, these movies are 1 year and 2.5 years old, respectively. Give them some time, see if they have staying power. I think it's a little disconcerting that WDI wants to get attractions made quicker for the purpose of cashing in on fads; while I'd like to see attractions built quicker, that's solely because I want to see the parks improve as much as possible (and I'm impatient). Cashing in on fads is not going to improve things, in the long runs. They need to develop some attractions based on time-tested classics or original concepts, too (I'll admit, Star Tours 2 is a start, but plenty more can be done).

 

[ToTBellHop]

a high-speed Cars thrill ride practically writes itself...

and I explicitly stated previously why I'm calling it DPS, now, didn't I? Gonna take some getting used to. I don't care what you call it, though. You say tomato, I say tomato.

 

[mac41099]

You gor it all mixed up... Pixar has Disney by the balls... Burbankwise...
Too much Pixar in the management...


Which is a very disturbing and bad thing...

If there is too much Pixar in the management, I can only see that as a positive. Pixar/Disney has made 7 movies. All but 2 made over $200 million (Toy Story approx $191 million and A Bug's Life appox $162 million). The stories are fresh and cutt. Three Pixar movies probably out gross the past 10 Disney animations films.

So, they obviously know what they are doing and need something to inject life into the 2D animation part of Disney.

 

[ToTBellHop]

If there is too much Pixar in the management, I can only see that as a positive. Pixar/Disney has made 7 movies. All but 2 made over $200 million (Toy Story approx $191 million and A Bug's Life appox $162 million). The stories are fresh and cutt. Three Pixar movies probably out gross the past 10 Disney animations films.

So, they obviously know what they are doing and need something to inject life into the 2D animation part of Disney.

there can be too much of a good thing, but I have to say, Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage is FANTASTIC. If we can look forward to attractions of that calibre, bring it on.

 

[raven]

I think it's a little disconcerting that WDI wants to get attractions made quicker for the purpose of cashing in on fads; while I'd like to see attractions built quicker, that's solely because I want to see the parks improve as much as possible (and I'm impatient). Cashing in on fads is not going to improve things, in the long runs.

They could start on an attraction while a movie is still in production. The problem is that they don't really know if the movie will succeed. They easily could have built a Cars attraction a long time ago since the movie was actually completed a few years back. But the split between Disney & Pixar kept them from building anything to do with it.

As far as Disney cashing in on those movies, they do! While in the parks you are bombarded with Disney movies because they want you to like them and then hopefully you will purchase them when you get home. At home you see a growing number of WDW commercials making you want to visit. It's strategic marketing, that's all. And I got to hand it to them, it works!

 

[CoffeeJedi]

If there is too much Pixar in the management, I can only see that as a positive.

Especially considering Pixar's corporate culture. (Or at least, the culture that Lassetter promotes in all the behind-the-scenes featurettes on their DVD's. While I have no doubt that they're a cool creative company, I wonder how much is just for the cameras.)

 

[mac41099]

Not that it really makes a difference, but The Lion King was the last 200 million dollar hit, bringing in $312.86 million in its initial release. Still, your point is made.

Yes, you are correct. I knew that, but I had a brain lapse here at the end of the day. Getting ready for a beer exhange in a few minutes.

Cars is very popular. The diecast cars are selling like crazy and they continue to make new series, so there is a large fan base for things Cars.

True, we need to see what movies have staying power before they start building rides/attractions left and right, but again, my point is the last true hit was Lion King in 1994. Given Pocahontas and Tarzan were mild hits, but not to the magnitude of any Pixar film.

So, the Pixar films are the only thing to reference until the new 2D animation movies come out in 2009 and beyond to make rides/attractions from them.

 

[ASilmser]

I really hope a Cars section gets built in Florida. I've said many times before the Cars is my favorite Disney/Animated movie and I would love to have a Radiator Springs section in MGM.

For the most part, I don't think it's wise to ever have an entire "section" or "land" themed after a single film. It narrows things too much. The only exception I can think of might be toontown in DL, modeled after Roger Rabbit. But the only reason that works is the fact that toontown itself was a land where all sorts of animated characters lived and worked--even bugs bunny was right at home with mickey and minnie. So the focus is animated characters and where they might live, rather than the story of Roger Rabbit. The point is, a Radiator springs Attraction or area within a section of MGM might be cool, but not an entire section. It would be like calling fantasyland "cinderellaville". Your options for theming and story are limited.

 

[ToTBellHop]

^^a full land, I agree with. But, a mini-land based on one franchise works. I could EASILY imagine a Toy Story mini-land, for example. Of course, that is a trilogy. Cars 2 is apparently in the works, though.

 

[ASilmser]

^^a full land, I agree with. But, a mini-land based on one franchise works. I could EASILY imagine a Toy Story mini-land, for example. Of course, that is a trilogy. Cars 2 is apparently in the works, though.

I'll give you toy story, but only because of the huge diversity of the characters and the broad appeal of the "toy" theme. A mini-land or full land would work pretty well, and introducing toys and concepts that do not even appear in the movie is an option too. The movies obviously did not show EVERY toy in Al's Toy barn, or under Sid's bed.

Cool Idea by the way.

 

[willythelab]

coaster question

Isn't that the same as Triceritops spin and Mullholland Madness? Just remember to not eat before that one! They should just bring back the lot tour as a good attraction. It used to be a really fun thing to do. In all fairness though, it really is Catastophe Canyon back there now!

 

[Champion]

Isn't that the same as Triceritops spin and Mullholland Madness? Just remember to not eat before that one! They should just bring back the lot tour as a good attraction. It used to be a really fun thing to do. In all fairness though, it really is Catastophe Canyon back there now!

It was nice when there was nothing else to do in the park. Now they just need to continue to build up the park and use all the space for other things.

 

[imagineer boy]

the haters of pixar are old school disney fans who dont want progress in my openion.

That's more of a generalization than an opinion....

I been reading on threads from many people that MGM needs more attractions. Now they don't? Even if it means pixar? I'm so confused. Make up your mind already. :hammer:

Personally, I'm not too fond of the whole "Disney-Pixar Studios" thing. Why can't they just call it "Disney Studios"? Don't get me wrong, I love all of Pixar's movies ( they really are the best animation studios in Hollywood ) and I know Pixar is Disney now, but that doesn't mean build a million Pixar attractions like there's no tomorrow. Only a few attractions is just fine. You can have too much of a good thing some times. I'd just like to see more attractions with original characters, not just Pixar characters plastered all over the place just for marketing.

 

[Lee]

They should just bring back the lot tour as a good attraction.

Lot? Not really any lot left to tour.
The queue, tank, tram loading area, boneyard....all that makes a pretty nice expansion pad.

 

[SDav10495]

the haters of pixar are old school disney fans who dont want progress in my openion. every pixar movie is capable of making an outstanding ride or show (nemo show at animal kingdom best show of all the parks). as a true disney fan we need to embrace change. Walt hated things stagnet and always wanted to add or change things. he was never happy with the final product. by adding pixar they are just realizing walts dream's

I'm not sure that's quite it...well first off, I have to say I don't think there are actually a great number of Pixar "haters". The majority of people will tell you that Pixar is a terrific studio. But are some of those people a little cautious about the latest crop of Pixar-themed attractions? Definitely. It's not because they hate change or Pixar, it's because there's a concern out there that Pixar films have just become the go-to overlay for a lot of recent attractions...to the point, many believe, that it almost seems like Disney is just cashing in on the hippest new movies.

Do I think that's justified? Not exactly, because the parks have always done that, and certainly Pixar rides aren't the only ones going up these days. But when you suddenly have a number of high-profile Pixar additions popping up at the same time across the parks, it does give the impression that Disney isn't digging into their idea well as deep as they could be. Pixar makes excellent films, and there are some fantastic Pixar attractions...but when Disney does something like a Nemo overlay for the Living Seas simply because Nemo is a cute fish that everyone loves, it makes you wonder how appropriate or necessary every application of the Pixar name is.

(For the record I really enjoyed myself at The Seas--moreso than I did when Seabase Alpha was at its deadest two years previous--but it wasn't much more than a fun time. The dark ride was cute and well-made, but out of place. It was clear that the kids really enjoyed seeing Nemo, as did I...but that Nemo appeal is all the more reason I think the attraction could have been pushed further than it went. Disney's got a great property in Nemo and has the potential to use the characters to really inspire kids, but the pavilion overall did little to inspire me like Seabase Alpha used to. There was just kid-friendly information about fish--nothing I couldn't find at a local aquarium.)

 

[ToTBellHop]

^^I agree to an extent. I do think they ought to be cautious w/ these additions, though. There should still be a place for original attractions. This is one reason I want Jack Skellington to stay the hell away from the Mansion...no overlays for the classics! This said, I'm sure they still have some original attractions in the works. But, at MGM, I have no problem w/ film-based attractions, though I would certainly prefer an original story (like the Tower of Terror).

 

[Enigma]

You gor it all mixed up... Pixar has Disney by the balls... Burbankwise...
Too much Pixar in the management...


Which is a very disturbing and bad thing...

No you got it backwards...its a very good thing! !

Disney was heading in the wrong direction prior to the Pixar acquistion by Bob Iger.

 

[imagineer boy]

I'm not sure that's quite it...well first off, I have to say I don't think there are actually a great number of Pixar "haters". The majority of people will tell you that Pixar is a terrific studio. But are some of those people a little cautious about the latest crop of Pixar-themed attractions? Definitely. It's not because they hate change or Pixar, it's because there's a concern out there that Pixar films have just become the go-to overlay for a lot of recent attractions...to the point, many believe, that it almost seems like Disney is just cashing in on the hippest new movies.

Do I think that's justified? Not exactly, because the parks have always done that, and certainly Pixar rides aren't the only ones going up these days. But when you suddenly have a number of high-profile Pixar additions popping up at the same time across the parks, it does give the impression that Disney isn't digging into their idea well as deep as they could be. Pixar makes excellent films, and there are some fantastic Pixar attractions...but when Disney does something like a Nemo overlay for the Living Seas simply because Nemo is a cute fish that everyone loves, it makes you wonder how appropriate or necessary every application of the Pixar name is.

(For the record I really enjoyed myself at The Seas--moreso than I did when Seabase Alpha was at its deadest two years previous--but it wasn't much more than a fun time. The dark ride was cute and well-made, but out of place. It was clear that the kids really enjoyed seeing Nemo, as did I...but that Nemo appeal is all the more reason I think the attraction could have been pushed further than it went. Disney's got a great property in Nemo and has the potential to use the characters to really inspire kids, but the pavilion overall did little to inspire me like Seabase Alpha used to. There was just kid-friendly information about fish--nothing I couldn't find at a local aquarium.)

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Thank you.

 

[nibblesandbits]

No you got it backwards...its a very good thing! !

Disney was heading in the wrong direction prior to the Pixar acquistion by Bob Iger.

Corrus has his reasons for the way he believes...so if he thinks it's a bad thing...somewhere along the lines there is a reason for why he thinks it.