queue etiquitte question

[MaxsDad]

I would like to hear your thoughts on something I have wondered about for awhile. (Particularly Scenario 3) It is in regards to the stand by lines at WDW. Please, lets not get into the "Bathroom-Break-Leave-and-Comeback" or "I'll go stand In Line, you can catch up to us later" debate. That's not really what I am wondering about.

Scenario 1:

Group A is approaching the outside of the beginning of the Queue, but is not yet in it. Group B is walking faster than A, yet not running or pushing. Perhaps Group A is fumbling around in a backpack or such. Group B walks around Group A and goes into the Queue.

I would suspect most of us would not consider this rude or unethical. Correct?

Scenario 2:

Group A is inside the queue, directly behind the group in front of them, and the line is at a dead stop. Group B goes around them.

I would suspect all of us would consider this rude, unethical, and grounds for penalty of some type.

Scenario 3:

Within the inside of the queue, Group A has not yet reached the end of the line (The people in front of them). They are walking through as normal, then they either stop or nearly stop to: view some minute detail of the queue, go through a bag, un-child a stroller, or discuss whether or not they want to even get on the thing. Group B is closing fast. They go around Group A.

Is this cutting? Is it rude or unethical?

 

[calicommando]

I think sometimes people are rude, but in order to enjoy your vacation, you just kinda have to let things roll off. You can spend a lot of time being stressed out and mad about things people do, especially when it's extremely hot. My advice: Let it go. . .

 

[raven]

I think it's more rude to stop a line from moving to take care of personal needs. If Group A needs to stop for a reason then they should let others pass them because otherwise they are holding the line up. I'm not talking a short few seconds but minutes. It's just rude.

Just like the people at a drive-thru in front of you. I find it extremely rude when people have received their food and decide to pass it out to all of the passengers, put away their money and adjust their mirrors before they pull away from the window. It slows up the line and causes my food to get cold.

Another case: This past year we waited in line outside of Best Buy for 8 hours on Thanksgiving Day to get good deals when they openned. Tickets were given out to guarentee certain items starting with the first people in line. The people at the front of the line were taking tickets for every item even though they never planned to buy them anyway. Then they tried to sell the tickets to people down the line. Rude. Also, as we entered the store, the Best Buy people were letting in others who just walked up to the store and never waited in line. Rude.

Sorry, but being stupid and causing backups and trouble for personal reasons is just rude to me. Just my opinion.

 

[Cole'sMom]

When it comes to the little things, I don't let it bother me. I am in my ultimate vacation destination! I'll get to the front of the line eventually. It's definitely not considerate (#3), but some people aren't really paying attention on vacation, either. To paraphrase my KTTK guide Rae, guests are in a vacation daze!

 

[ToTBellHop]

1 is fine, 2 is rude, 3 is fine. People do it all the time. If I want to stop to take pictures or video in a queue, I don't expect people to wait up behind me. Who am I to slow down their vacation? I hold this similar to the idiots you will see get in line and go down the wrong switchback (some switchback not currently in use but still accessible). I don't feel as though I need to wait for them to figure out they are stupid and return before I get in the real line.

 

[Nemo14]

I think there's a lot of rude behavior everywhere, but I try not to let it get in the way of my fun. Life is way tooooo short!

 

[SpongeScott]

If someone in front of me stops like that (#3), I'll wait and let them do whatever it is they are doing. I'll still get to the ride or attraction at the same time, or lose a few seconds at best. I would not go around them unless invited.

 

[jesserin]

It all depends I'd say... and with that, I agree with the others... if it happens to you - don't stop next time. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but when a family is clearly taking pictures and such... I just smile and pass them and keep on walking.

 

[figment1985]

I think the first one is fine, but the second two are barely cutting it. I think the last secenerio you mentioned is what irritates me the most. It's not really people getting their kid out of a stroller or something, but them just not paying attention that the line has moved 20 feet.

 

[ToTBellHop]

A few times it has happened to me that I was behind these idiots who can't seem to keep up with the party in front of them, we'd get to the front of the stand-by line, they wouldn't be paying attention to the CM trying to get them to move ahead, and then the CM cuts off the line and goes back to letting FPers in. That's aggravating. There ought to be an IQ requirement to enter the parks...

 

[JeffH]

Mho

1 I agree
2 I agree
3 I would say that the queue is the queue, but the line is the line...you are not in line until you come in 'contact' with the line, then your place in line should be respected. AND this includes stops at a water fountain that may be in line (I've seen so many people cut, just because you stopped for water)...where are they going??? So many people freak out to the point of moving to cut, just because you leave a few feet between you and the person in front of you...they ONLY time you need to 'toe-the-line' is near the entrance, otherwise, again, where are you going, what is your point, what is your problem, get over it, it's just a little empty space, relax man!!!!!!!!!!
One exception to this, I would say, is if you are preceeeding through an empty queue to the line, and another party cuts under/over the queue ropes/bars to get to the line before you...not necessarily to beat you, but not to walk senselessly back and forth in an empty queue. I would think in this scenario that they can 'cut' the line (saving themselves the wasted walking), but they should let you in front when you finally get there.
Then you have Scenario #4, the non-line lines...those that are fill in the available space like Pirates, Terror and Fantasmic...in this case I think it's fight for yourself (like in traffic), or just stay behind the person in front of you and disregard people going by you to fill in the space left or right of you...

 

[ears2you]

A few times it has happened to me that I was behind these idiots who can't seem to keep up with the party in front of them, we'd get to the front of the stand-by line, they wouldn't be paying attention to the CM trying to get them to move ahead, and then the CM cuts off the line and goes back to letting FPers in. That's aggravating. There ought to be an IQ requirement to enter the parks...

hahaha
yea there should be, then disney wont have to make more pins that say "what time is the 3 o clock parade"""
:ROFLOL: :ROFLOL:

 

[EpcotServo]

#3 is fine for me, if they're taking a long time. If they are stopped to take a picture I'll wait, but anything other than that is holding up the line and starving the load.

 

[PintoColvig]

I think it depends somewhat on the speed of the line ahead. I was in the queue at Dinosaur and stopped to show a family member a hidden mickey on a mural. He had trouble seeing it so we stood there for about 10 seconds while he tried to identify it. Someone behind a few feet behind us made some smart remark about holding the line back. However, the line ahead of us had only stopped five or six feet beyond us. The "smart" remark really burned me and was unnecessary since our brief delay did not lengthen their wait in line at all. Had we stood there while the line continued to move rapidly ahead, the remark may have been a little more called for.

 

[Craig & Lisa]

We had a very rude thing happen to us. I entered the line to get FP's for RNRC, it seems there was a school group waiting to get their's. I have no problem when it's a few but these chaperones seemed like they did not trust any of the kids with their tickets. They were putting in everyone's tickets. To the tune of at least 50+. I really started to get upset and could not keep my mouth shut. I said something and they gave me some unacceptable reason, to which I responded with maybe you should just get in the regular line. And I wasn't the only one who had a few words for them as well.

 

[ToTBellHop]

We had a very rude thing happen to us. I entered the line to get FP's for RNRC, it seems there was a school group waiting to get their's. I have no problem when it's a few but these chaperones seemed like they did not trust any of the kids with their tickets. They were putting in everyone's tickets. To the tune of at least 50+. I really started to get upset and could not keep my mouth shut. I said something and they gave me some unacceptable reason, to which I responded with maybe you should just get in the regular line. And I wasn't the only one who had a few words for them as well.

oh I HATE it when people do that. I understand sending one person into a pack of people trying to get Fastpasses for your family of 4 or 5 (especially if you have little kids), but it annoys me to no end when one person will go up with 25 tickets for everyone in their family reunion to get Fastpasses. So rude...

 

[PintoColvig]

We had a very rude thing happen to us. I entered the line to get FP's for RNRC, it seems there was a school group waiting to get their's. I have no problem when it's a few but these chaperones seemed like they did not trust any of the kids with their tickets. They were putting in everyone's tickets. To the tune of at least 50+. I really started to get upset and could not keep my mouth shut. I said something and they gave me some unacceptable reason, to which I responded with maybe you should just get in the regular line. And I wasn't the only one who had a few words for them as well.

oh I HATE it when people do that. I understand sending one person into a pack of people trying to get Fastpasses for your family of 4 or 5 (especially if you have little kids), but it annoys me to no end when one person will go up with 25 tickets for everyone in their family reunion to get Fastpasses. So rude...

Yeah, but can you imagine how long the line would be for FPs if each individual got his or her own FP? Having one person do it for the whole group is probably the faster way to get FPs for a larger group.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

To me, the point of being in line is to advance in an orderly fashion toward the attraction. If you stop somewhere in the queue (and you haven't reached the back of the line), then you haven't established a place in line and you don't have any reason to expect people to wait behind you. I don't think it's rude for people to stop and take pics, as long as they don't have a problem with being passed.

 

[Yellow Shoes]

OK--let me get this right.

You're in the midst of a long queue with lots to look at and multiple switchbacks and rooms--something like Expedition Everest.

You want to take a picture or point something out to your companions.

It ABSOLUTELY is rude for someone to zoom around you. You have already established your place in line and haven't "left" the queue.

That 5 feet will NOT get you to the front of the line significantly faster. You're trapped in line, and you're getting to the ride is a function of time as well as space.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Interesting diversity of opinions on this one. I wonder if we're all picturing the same thing.

If someone is strolling through the queue ahead of me at a leisurely pace (heck, if they're moving at all) and they want to drink in the details as they go, then they have a respected place in line.

Conversely, if they stop dead in their tracks to look at things, that to me is akin to overtly saying "my focus isn't on getting to the front of the line at this point. Feel free to go around." I think it would be rude to expect others to wait behind them. That's holding up the progress of the line for no good reason. :shrug: