Good. Those are always fantastic.
Wish for Love? That's Beauty and the Beast, right? What's gone, the comets?![]()
The Illuminations/PoE cuts aren't very noticeable; just a few days ago, Illuminations was running at almost 100%, including the perimeter flares.
But the cuts in Wishes are EXTREMELY obvious, and the majority of cuts seem to have occurred in the "Wish for Love" segment.
I am a pyrotechnician for a major display company (NOT DISNEY).. Allot of the "chest thumping" that you feel from a fireworks display is the launch charge. When the shells are in the mortar there is a black powder charge on the bottom of the shell that launches it up into the air. The larger the shell, the larger the charge. Normally this would also start the time fuse for the charge that breaks the shell in the sky.
Disney is using a system that eliminates the lift charge. They are using air to fire the shell in the air and electronic timing to control the break.
I do not know all the particulars of Disney's system but this may be why the show seems less intense.
It is much safer to use air because most accidents happen when the lift charge goes off and the shell either never leaves the tube or doesn't send the shell up high enough..
Hope this helps..
I am a pyrotechnician for a major display company (NOT DISNEY).. Allot of the "chest thumping" that you feel from a fireworks display is the launch charge. When the shells are in the mortar there is a black powder charge on the bottom of the shell that launches it up into the air. The larger the shell, the larger the charge. Normally this would also start the time fuse for the charge that breaks the shell in the sky.
Disney is using a system that eliminates the lift charge. They are using air to fire the shell in the air and electronic timing to control the break.
I do not know all the particulars of Disney's system but this may be why the show seems less intense.
It is much safer to use air because most accidents happen when the lift charge goes off and the shell either never leaves the tube or doesn't send the shell up high enough..
Hope this helps..
Sorry but if Mrs Sak can notice something a miss then it is most definately noticeable
I am a pyrotechnician for a major display company (NOT DISNEY).. Allot of the "chest thumping" that you feel from a fireworks display is the launch charge. When the shells are in the mortar there is a black powder charge on the bottom of the shell that launches it up into the air. The larger the shell, the larger the charge. Normally this would also start the time fuse for the charge that breaks the shell in the sky.
Disney is using a system that eliminates the lift charge. They are using air to fire the shell in the air and electronic timing to control the break.
I do not know all the particulars of Disney's system but this may be why the show seems less intense.
It is much safer to use air because most accidents happen when the lift charge goes off and the shell either never leaves the tube or doesn't send the shell up high enough..
Hope this helps..
So you're implying she's a bit dense? :animwink: :wave:
I was told not but can`t confirm it.I think they've only completely converted to that system at Disneyland.
Don't worry...you are correct...its been cut.
If you watch the tag during the final barrage of pyro at the end, there is a noticeable moment when no pyro explodes between the colored bursts and the final white salutes. I've watched the sky, and then watched the launch tubes on one of the WWIII barges. When the barge starts launching the finale, pieces are launched in rapid succession, side-by-side. In the past, this launch was continuous. This year, there is about a 1 to 2 second space in the middle of the rapid launch. The way I see it, the timecode is programmed to signal all of the launch tubes. To make sure they begin on time and end on time, and to cut pieces, they simply don't load all of them in the middle.
It's noticeable, and I wish they would stop cutting back on things. Its starting to get ridiculous.
Sorry but if Mrs Sak can notice something a miss then it is most definately noticeable
Oh.
There were lots of execs in the park the night I watched the PoE tag. Maybe that's why the end didn't seem noticeably less impressive to me. :shrug:
Like I said, the Wishes cuts are VERY obvious.
Just judging from the video, and what CrashNet has said, the smaller white shells between the colored (red,green,blue) and the Titanium Salutes have been slightly cut back, maybe 40 shells total of roughly 1000 in the whole show. Certainly not a huge deal and those particular shells do not have a very powerful lift charge or break.
The 4" Ti Salutes seem to be exactly the same as before.
As for air launching the shells, Steve covered it very well. Only 3 shells are launched with 2 air bursts. The opening Dahlias are launched from the center slip with a single burst of air. They are essentially stacked on top of each other and e-matched together in the same tube.
DL launches all of it's larger pyro with air, meaning everything from the main site. The 3" comets that come in from the left and right of the castle are also air launched, using tubes almost exactly like the one in EPCOT. I can't say for sure what the low level castle stuff is. Might be a combination of both because it seems impractical to me to fire mines pneumatically.
To follow up on Wishes, whatever was removed is barely noticeable. The first thing I noticed were the 10s and I had to watch the show a few more times to see any other differences.
I just watched Wishes a few days ago, and the cuts were very noticeable in the Wish for Love and Genie segments.
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