PUSH the Talking Trashcan's last day?

[MOXOMUMD]

True, but I think voicing your opinion and making your thoughts known is rarely a bad thing. At the very least, a whole bunch of guests got together to share some magical memories.

Isn't that what we do here daily?

 

[Matt_Black]

Isn't that what we do here daily?

Yes, but there are folks who aren't on the boards over on facebook and twitter and such.

 

[JohnD]

First he's out, then he's in, then he's out again. I'm so confused.

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...-no-longer-appearing-at-the-magic-kingdom.htm

 

[Matt_Black]

Yeah, that's been a recurring theme in this thread. Still, we'll have our memories. And quite a few videos on youtube.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Yes, so the question is, did they lie when they made that statement, or were the working under the assumption that it was going to be true, but things fell apart at the last minute?

Well Disney was asked that question by the Sentinel earlier and they refused to answer the question.

 

[Cesar R M]

Thanks to the answers on surveys, it has been determined that magic bands are so awesome that actual entertainment is no longer necessary.

The hub is the Disney cm intranet-this is fairly well known

I wonder if they are monitored 24/7 NSA like to prevent spillage.

The side note to all of this I would like to point out:

To those who felt that online petitions or facebook fan pages make a difference...here is your proof that they pretty much never work (there have been VERY FEW exceptions to this). When the OS (falsely) claimed (not their fault) that he wasnt going anywhere, soapboxers boasted about how a hashtag made a difference. Apparently not

well, petition do work for some companies, but I suppose disney doesnt give a jack a** about them when money comes into the equation.

Aaawww nuts... This is so upsetting. But hey, we still have the wonderfully themed and interactive Incredibles Tomorrowland Dance Party!!

[sarcastic tone]

and wonderful themed bathrooms!

I don't see how it makes any difference. The way to handle this was to say nothing until contracts were signed. Instead, they foolishly made a statement that PUSH wasn't going anywhere. At best this is very dumb. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

agree, they should have said nothing.
the last "twist" when #savepush was trending.. made me think it was all a PR movement to cull the #savepush trend out (and it did sort of die after the announcement)

Isn't that what we do here daily?

thats what forums are for, so no idea why they would even think the inverse lol.

 

[tahqa]

It's simple... PUSH's owner reached out to social media to try and put pressure on Disney during negotiations. They reached out to multiple sites and as far as I know only one site agreed to help them. Disney told OS that PUSH wasn't going anywhere and this caused PUSH's owner to think that he had the upper hand. I suspect he went back into negotiations with that mind set and Disney decided to push back, as it were.

I have absolutely no insider information on any of this, so it's purely my conjecture.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It's simple... PUSH's owner reached it to social media to try and put pressure on Disney during negotiations. They reached out to multiple sites and as far as I know only one site agreed to help them. Disney told OS that PUSH wasn't going anywhere and this caused PUSH's owner to think that he had the upper hand. I suspect he went back into negotiations with that mind set and Disney decided to push back, as it were.

I have absolutely no insider information on any of this, so it's purely my conjecture.

I have terrifying imagery of trying to put my trash in a trash can and it pushes back, refusing to take my refuse.

 

[GrumpyFan]

It's simple... PUSH's owner reached it to social media to try and put pressure on Disney during negotiations. They reached out to multiple sites and as far as I know only one site agreed to help them. Disney told OS that PUSH wasn't going anywhere and this caused PUSH's owner to think that he had the upper hand. I suspect he went back into negotiations with that mind set and Disney decided to push back, as it were.

I have absolutely no insider information on any of this, so it's purely my conjecture.

Sounds pretty reasonable.

 

[msteel]

Here's the truth: I decided to retire from the theme park business to pursue other life aspirations.

Because I'm (relatively) new here, I don't know if you are "the" real PUSH. Can anybody confirm or deny whether our member has any official connection?

 

[PhotoDave219]

It's simple... PUSH's owner reached it to social media to try and put pressure on Disney during negotiations. They reached out to multiple sites and as far as I know only one site agreed to help them. Disney told OS that PUSH wasn't going anywhere and this caused PUSH's owner to think that he had the upper hand. I suspect he went back into negotiations with that mind set and Disney decided to push back, as it were.

I have absolutely no insider information on any of this, so it's purely my conjecture.

Now, that's the same general conclusions that I came to as well.

I'm not here to crucify the blogger nor am I going to defend him. Suffice to say, he's in the middle of a real crap show and that's more of a lesson then anything anyone could say.

 

[PUSH]

Because I'm (relatively) new here, I don't know if you are "the" real PUSH. Can anybody confirm or deny whether our member has any official connection?

No connection here. I'm just messing around.

 

[xdan0920]

No connection here. I'm just messing around.

WHAT??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[msteel]

No connection here. I'm just messing around.

Thanks for the info.

If only @Rose&Crowner had been so forthcoming....

 

[Lucky]

It's simple... PUSH's owner reached out to social media to try and put pressure on Disney during negotiations. They reached out to multiple sites and as far as I know only one site agreed to help them. Disney told OS that PUSH wasn't going anywhere and this caused PUSH's owner to think that he had the upper hand. I suspect he went back into negotiations with that mind set and Disney decided to push back, as it were.

I have absolutely no insider information on any of this, so it's purely my conjecture.

Whether that's what happened or not, it made no sense for Disney to make that statement if there was no agreement yet. You don't see the LA Dodgers saying "Clayton Kershaw isn't going anywhere," then Kershaw raising his asking price & fans getting PO'd about broken promises. If pro sports teams are all smart enough not to do that, why isn't Disney?

 

[NowInc]

Whether that's what happened or not, it made no sense for Disney to make that statement if there was no agreement yet. You don't see the LA Dodgers saying "Clayton Kershaw isn't going anywhere," then Kershaw raising his asking price & fans getting PO'd about broken promises. If pro sports teams are all smart enough not to do that, why isn't Disney?

Could have been a powerplay to help discredit those who get "insider" information..but honestly if that was the case...that was a horrible way to go about it.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Could have been a powerplay to help discredit those who get "insider" information..but honestly if that was the case...that was a horrible way to go about it.

This entire saga has been a crapshow.

I'm sure there's still more to play out.

 

[flynnibus]

For something that was operated within a Disney Park? I can't imagine they would ever allow that to happen.

It's not much different than any other performing act.

It might have been an idea brought to Disney by the company... so Disney hires them to perform. Just like any other entertainment act... a magician, band, etc.

If they were to pitch it to Disney, and Disney would go 'great, idea, but we'll do it ourselves...' it would be like stealing a movie pitch, etc.

Who originated the idea/act.. Disney or the contractor plays a big role here.

 

[flynnibus]

So is the Orlando Sentinel going to call Disney PR and ask them why they lied to them 3 days ago?

Is it not possible that something changed? If the root issue here is as described.. which is an ongoing contract issue... Disney wasn't lying if Disney intended to keep PUSH reporting.

But what you intend to do.. and what you accomplish aren't always equal.

If anything Disney would have been guilty of being coy and not sharing ALL the details. But that's standard fare for PR.. don't share more than you need to.

 

[tahqa]

Is it not possible that something changed? If the root issue here is as described.. which is an ongoing contract issue... Disney wasn't lying if Disney intended to keep PUSH reporting.

But what you intend to do.. and what you accomplish aren't always equal.

If anything Disney would have been guilty of being coy and not sharing ALL the details. But that's standard fare for PR.. don't share more than you need to.

I agree with this. I think Disney had every intention of keeping PUSH and it just didn't work out (for whatever reason).