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PUSH the Talking Trashcan's last day?
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PhotoDave219
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That is puzzling. That makes me believe that a contract was offered and it was rejected, but I honestly dont know.
It sounds like Disney wasn't planning on cutting him.
The real story won't come out, IMO and I'm blaming all parties involved for not being able to get along.
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
The third party wouldn't leave just to annoy Disney. The found something else that pays better or allows more creative freedom. In this day, no one is gonna leave a job unless they are sure they have a place to go that'll treat them better.
I'm not saying they're blameless, but I'm guessing the blame is more on Goliath's side than David's.
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yoda_5729
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Disney did not handle this arrangement well at all...
They never once made an official statement that Push was even leaving at all. Some guest may have wanted to see him before he left, had they known that....
Then a rumor gets started that he is. No one knows if the rumor is true or not....(Maybe it's manufactured by the blogs and news companies, Maybe not. After all there were Tomorrowland employees behind the scenes rumored to be discussing his removal?)
Then a spokesman for Disney reports there is "nothing to" rumors of Push's departure, and that "Push isn't going anywhere"
Two days later, Push is retired???
Wha??
The Ziti Sisters, who it is known sadly are leaving Epcot, had their departure reported ahead of time so that people could go visit one last time, or visit for the first time just to experience them. Push who had been there for 19 years did not merit the same announcement?
They never once made an official statement that Push was even leaving at all. Some guest may have wanted to see him before he left, had they known that....
Then a rumor gets started that he is. No one knows if the rumor is true or not....(Maybe it's manufactured by the blogs and news companies, Maybe not. After all there were Tomorrowland employees behind the scenes rumored to be discussing his removal?)
Then a spokesman for Disney reports there is "nothing to" rumors of Push's departure, and that "Push isn't going anywhere"
Two days later, Push is retired???
Wha??
The Ziti Sisters, who it is known sadly are leaving Epcot, had their departure reported ahead of time so that people could go visit one last time, or visit for the first time just to experience them. Push who had been there for 19 years did not merit the same announcement?
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
I wonder the same thing. It makes sense for some things, like DeVine, because Disney would have to pay a regular CM more with more breaks for performing like that, because of the Union. Push, though... I dunno. Maybe a puppeteering premium PLUS face character wages?
Like I said, I dunno.
asianway
Well-Known Member
I'm sure the Bamboo test was some sort of contract negotiating leverage
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
You're assuming Push was cut. He could have chose to roll off into the sunset of his own accord.
DisneyGentleman
Well-Known Member
Translation - Rich atmosphere - underpaid talent jumps around in foam suits; often with overly loud music and flashing lights; rubes easily confuse it with entertainment and open their wallets wide
BwanaBob
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The 'new INCREDIBLES Super Dance Party at Rockettower Plaza Stage' is neither rich, nor entertainment.
Lucky
Well-Known Member
The intellectual property rights could be an issue. They'd have had to buy the rights from the company for PUSH.
SoccerMickey
Active Member
The scary (or more underhanded on Disney's part) thing with the Ziti Sisters' departure is Disney held auditions the day before they cast subs/replacements for days off for the Ziti Sisters. Then to their surprise when they got to work the next day they find out the show is being cut. I think the same thing happened to Disney Channel Rocks.
yoda_5729
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True, I have 0 knowledge of what happened behind the scenes. Maybe Disney did offer a contract to the 3rd Party. Maybe he got cut. Maybe the 3rd Party wanted to retire, or maybe they weren't given enough compensation. I don't know, but I would think they could have handled the arrangement better. In all honesty I don't like the message from Disney and 3 days later hearing opposite. I don't really care as much as to who is to blame as much as the loss for Push. He was a GREAT attraction. One that many have posted on facebook and twitter was their favorite memory. If the 3rd Party walked away, Disney should have offered more (assuming Money is the issue, which it may not be).
The only official statement from Disney at all regarding Push within the last year that I'm aware of was the Disney spokesman in the Orlando Sentinel. Based on that report, Disney was either blindsided by this, overconfident about it, dishonest, or ignorant. Heck I would have had a weekly blog of Push visiting various places in Disney World, and interacting with things. Push riding the monorail, etc.
I would have made far more merchandise with Push, especially to the extent that kids and adults cherish him. The fact a pin hasn't been made is criminal, with all the various other pins that are made. I'd offer the 3rd party a bit of the profits from the merchandise even. I don't know what percentage, a low one, but it would help pay for the act, and also make the handlers that much more invested in entertaining the people, which is what they were doing spectacularly. The fact an iphone case of Push sold out, should have been a huge neon light around this unexplored avenue of merchandise. I know personally I would have bought some.
For something that was operated within a Disney Park? I can't imagine they would ever allow that to happen.
PhotoDave219
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Oh I agree with you entirely. The situation was handled very poorly by everyone involved.
asianway
Well-Known Member
PUSH also operated at times in DL & DLP so they may well own the ip
DisneyGentleman
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This just in....
"With the departure of PUSH, the Talking Trashcan, Walt Disney World is proud to announce the newest additions to our walk-around entertainment mix - SKAM the Talking Moneybag. SKAM will move around the park and tell you the exciting story of Disney's corporate structure. With a touch of your Magic Band*, you will hear amazing quotes from the annual report like "We had an incredibly strong first quarter, delivering a 32% increase in adjusted earnings per share" and "operating income growth for the quarter was primarily due to increased guest spending". Remember that SKAM is just a magical touch away.
* A modest resort entertainment fee of $5 will be charged for every Magic Band touch to maintain the quality of our magical entertainment mix."
"With the departure of PUSH, the Talking Trashcan, Walt Disney World is proud to announce the newest additions to our walk-around entertainment mix - SKAM the Talking Moneybag. SKAM will move around the park and tell you the exciting story of Disney's corporate structure. With a touch of your Magic Band*, you will hear amazing quotes from the annual report like "We had an incredibly strong first quarter, delivering a 32% increase in adjusted earnings per share" and "operating income growth for the quarter was primarily due to increased guest spending". Remember that SKAM is just a magical touch away.
* A modest resort entertainment fee of $5 will be charged for every Magic Band touch to maintain the quality of our magical entertainment mix."
drew81
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Pretending? Ha! They're not pretending at all.
yoda_5729
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Here by the way, was the article from the Orlando Sentinel regarding PUSH
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...1_talking-trash-disney-officials-tomorrowland
I'm not by any means the greatest person when it comes to public speaking, but the statement in the article...
"Disney officials say that PUSH will continue to entertain guests at Magic Kingdom."
...and then 2 days later he ends his 19 year career, is not a comment I would have made, unless a contract had been signed.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...1_talking-trash-disney-officials-tomorrowland
I'm not by any means the greatest person when it comes to public speaking, but the statement in the article...
"Disney officials say that PUSH will continue to entertain guests at Magic Kingdom."
...and then 2 days later he ends his 19 year career, is not a comment I would have made, unless a contract had been signed.
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PhotoDave219
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It could be a bunch of things. It could be continued gamesmanship with contract negotiations.
It really doesn't matter at the moment as what is done, is done.