Puck style MagicBand 2 is official

G8rchamps

Well-Known Member
You really do like to stretch reality, don't you. ;) They never said it's the ONLY thing you need to carry, just that you don't need anything else for park entry, FP+, and, if staying at a Disney resort, any POS terminal. They have never said that you don't need ID. They have never said that if you want discounts that you don't have to carry a separate card, like an AP or DVC membership card. They have NEVER stated any such thing. If you don't care about the discounts, or are not eligible for them, then yes, you can visit the parks with nothing more than a driver's license and a MB.

So I carry a Disney wallet- Hard tickets, ID for self and DW, 1 credit card, and I am so old fashioned I carry some cash for small purchases - in a rubber band. Real wallet stays in the safe. Just been used to it for the last 5 years or so.
 

beertiki

Well-Known Member
I carry what I call my "vacation wallet". It is a very small wallet, DL, 1 CC, and two $20 bills. I use my MB for everything, but the wallet is with me if I need it.

I will be happy with the puck key chain thing. My magic band is always in my pocket, I don't like the plastic band, and have always wanted a way to modify it so it can be worn on a nylon watch band. We will be going again in January and I hope they have a few more option. I would really like a nice heavy piece of metal that the puck can go into, so that If I drop it, it makes a nice noise. If it could be a bottle opener, that would be perfect.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Disney's lack of recognizing discounts on the band is pretty much a stick in the eye. I think it's only purpose is to ensure that everyone doesn't get it automatically.. thus saving some amount of money against potential redemptions.
It's because of the cheaters, and you know it. If everyone played by the rules, Disney would have no problem with honoring the discounts strictly from the MB. It does know whether you are DVC, AP, or both as I have seen the information on the CM screen when scanned. They just don't know that it is really MY MB without ID and a card. And please don't get on with the fraud is so small that it shouldn't matter to them. That's a croc answer.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Or Disney could have simply implemented a photo based system to verify the user. Instead... just shift the burden to the customer...
And imagine the tin foil hat brigade just here on these forums that would howl in protest if they did. Yes, I know that they do at DL, but for some reason, people are OK with it there.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
So I carry a Disney wallet- Hard tickets, ID for self and DW, 1 credit card, and I am so old fashioned I carry some cash for small purchases - in a rubber band. Real wallet stays in the safe. Just been used to it for the last 5 years or so.
Exactly. Some people seem to act like it's such a hard concept to carry a small wallet.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
It's because of the cheaters, and you know it. If everyone played by the rules, Disney would have no problem with honoring the discounts strictly from the MB
I say no its not.. and why? Because Disney could have linked this discount to your media for ages, and never has. Why? For the same reason companies use coupons instead of just lowering the price.

They just don't know that it is really MY MB without ID and a card.

If Disney only had a way to take photos of all their guests and link it to their profiles. Oh wait.. they do.. and its already done at DLR. It's not a technology limitation.. especially since they just redid their ENTIRE POS system.. and ticket system.. and profile system.

And please don't get on with the fraud is so small that it shouldn't matter to them. That's a croc answer.

Because this system REALLY keeps the discounts only to APs *rolleyes*.... I mean if there is someone you would trust to lend your band to.. do you not trust them enough to simply make the purchase for them if the discount is so important to you?
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
And imagine the tin foil hat brigade just here on these forums that would howl in protest if they did. Yes, I know that they do at DL, but for some reason, people are OK with it there.

We're talking about APs and DVC discounts... you really think this group thinks they are keeping their actions away from the company.. or largely CARE?

This choice is still self-serving.. not technology, not 'fraud prevention', or anything else. It's about reasonable levels of friction.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
If Disney only had a way to take photos of all their guests and link it to their profiles. Oh wait.. they do.. and its already done at DLR. It's not a technology limitation.. especially since they just redid their ENTIRE POS system.. and ticket system.. and profile system.
And like I said, how many millions of guests would not want their picture taken.

Because this system REALLY keeps the discounts only to APs *rolleyes*.... I mean if there is someone you would trust to lend your band to.. do you not trust them enough to simply make the purchase for them if the discount is so important to you?
You really are a piece of work. So glad that your opinion is the only one that matters.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
If Disney only had a way to take photos of all their guests and link it to their profiles. Oh wait.. they do.. and its already done at DLR. It's not a technology limitation.. especially since they just redid their ENTIRE POS system.. and ticket system.. and profile system.
It would not even require Disney to take the picture. There could be an option to upload a photo to your profile on the website and app.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Never said.. because they know it's a gap in their story. But promote it as the token for all your Disney needs? Certainly. The system is pretty much 'whats the point' if it only replaces your ticket. It doesn't improve the the 'charge to my room' system except making it a wearable instead of a card.

Disney's lack of recognizing discounts on the band is pretty much a stick in the eye. I think it's only purpose is to ensure that everyone doesn't get it automatically.. thus saving some amount of money against potential redemptions.

Since the MB is only a token linked to your account it really would not have been that hard to take photo at registration and link the discounts to the band.

Do the Mickey to Mickey your picture and entitlements come up on the display done. A lot less labor intensive for the guest and the CM
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
So I carry a Disney wallet- Hard tickets, ID for self and DW, 1 credit card, and I am so old fashioned I carry some cash for small purchases - in a rubber band. Real wallet stays in the safe. Just been used to it for the last 5 years or so.

I carry one of those waterproof boxes with lanyard that Disney sells and put my cards ID and some cash in it. It's waterproof it floats and it's always around my neck
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
We're talking about APs and DVC discounts... you really think this group thinks they are keeping their actions away from the company.. or largely CARE?

This choice is still self-serving.. not technology, not 'fraud prevention', or anything else. It's about reasonable levels of friction.

Exactly this was about saving the implementation costs of replicating DL's photo ID system which has worked well for years.

I remember being so underwhelmed when I got my AP at will call when WDW converted to RFID putting my name on with a SHARPIE for crying out loud this is Disney not my local Diner buy 10 get a free breakfast club card.

You get the image of a company just doing as little as possible.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
We're talking about APs and DVC discounts... you really think this group thinks they are keeping their actions away from the company.. or largely CARE?

This choice is still self-serving.. not technology, not 'fraud prevention', or anything else. It's about reasonable levels of friction.

And if one puts on the tinfoil hat one could say it's deliberate as TDO is attempting to make claiming the discounts as hard as possible and people will say to heck with it and not claim the discounts that they are entitled to
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
And if one puts on the tinfoil hat one could say it's deliberate as TDO is attempting to make claiming the discounts as hard as possible and people will say to heck with it and not claim the discounts that they are entitled to

Hence the statement "it's about a reasonable level of friction". Not enough to off the masses... but leave those rough spots in there..
 

**Stacy**

Active Member
And if one puts on the tinfoil hat one could say it's deliberate as TDO is attempting to make claiming the discounts as hard as possible and people will say to heck with it and not claim the discounts that they are entitled to

For what it's worth...I just bought a Silver AP ( I am regretting it already, still too crowded and they charged $4 for mushy grapes. I was in and out of the MK in less than 4 hours due to aggravation and 45 minute wait times on the Haunted Mansion). I did buy some dangle-y Star Wars Death Star earrings ($9.99 before discount woohoo!) and the cast member asked me if I had the AP so I could get a discount, still didn't have my MB at that point(I just got a purple1.0 version today) she asked to see my AP card and ID which I already had waiting in my hand. I am local and WDW is a day trip for me so I am going to have my wallet, DL, cards and cash with me anyway. I noticed the advertising for AP's at the TTC ticket booths is pretty heavy.
 

freediverdude

Well-Known Member
Yea I agree, I think it's just cost savings. It's easier for the company to make the guest get out their card and DL than to spend the money to implement a photo system linked with all the POS terminals, or better yet put the finger scanners at every register, but that also would require mega costs.
 

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