Prices up…profits down…

Jrb1979

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That or the company declaring Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
I personally see them selling off parts of the Company like the parks. I don't see them going out of business but I do see a day they no longer are the number 1 theme park in the world.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
I personally see them selling off parts of the Company like the parks. I don't see them going out of business but I do see a day they no longer are the number 1 theme park in the world.
Disney has no cash flows issues nor going concern issues. Businesses will sell segments that don't align with their overall product or that are too costly to maintain. Disney has done this with selling DraftKings previously and can also sell businesses in which they have a non-controlling interest if they need cash.

I know this is par for the course for the board, but speculating that they would sell the American parks, go into bankruptcy, etc., at this point, is, to be frank, completely and utterly absurd. Maybe internationally they would sell them to a local operator and license their product, as Tokyo operates, although currently they only own 47% of the Shanghai resort and do not operate the Hong Kong location. But not the American ones. Especially not when they're spending money on capitalized assets in those parks (new resorts, rides, attractions, themed lands, etc).
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
Speculating about selling the parks is not absurd. We know it’s been considered in the past.
No company is going to dump a bunch of money into capital assets for a product that they have no faith in, especially one that's bringing in the amount of revenue and profit that the parks are generating, even if the results weren't as expected. Maybe they were speculating this 20 years ago under Eisner when they weren't investing in the parks, but their spending right now and the segment profitability indicates yes, that idea is absurd.
 

FettFan

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I personally see them selling off parts of the Company like the parks.

I do not understand how you could come to this conclusion. Disney theme parks have been the #1 part of their brand identity since 1955.



Even their various castle logos are essentially subtle advertising for the parks.
 

Nevermore525

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There’s been what 2 times in their history of the parks where sale of the parks have come up? Once during the corporate raider situation in the 80s before Eisner came along, and then loose speculation regarding what Comcast would be able to do if they were to acquire Disney in the early 00s.
 

FettFan

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Speculating about selling the parks is not absurd. We know it’s been considered in the past.

It was considered in the past, in the immediate aftermath of Walt’s death….long before Disney Renaissance and blossoming into the juggernaut corporation it is today.
 

Nevermore525

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I honestly have no memory of this.
There was talk of Comcast acquiring Disney back then, and that’s actually when the state did their analysis of RCID pending a potential acquisition. Comcast may not have sold off the parks, but there were definitely conversations about how the parks and their governance would transfer if a sale happened.
 

Nevermore525

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Either way, at the current moment the Parks are at no risk of being sold off. The Walt Disney Company as a whole just had its most profitable 4 quarter period since 2018. [Insert obvious comments about how they’re doing it by higher pricing like practically every other corporate entity].
 

Jrb1979

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I do not understand how you could come to this conclusion. Disney theme parks have been the #1 part of their brand identity since 1955.



Even their various castle logos are essentially subtle advertising for the parks.

While true, they have talked about selling them off before. It wouldn't be the first time.
 

Goofyernmost

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No company is going to dump a bunch of money into capital assets for a product that they have no faith in, especially one that's bringing in the amount of revenue and profit that the parks are generating, even if the results weren't as expected. Maybe they were speculating this 20 years ago under Eisner when they weren't investing in the parks, but their spending right now and the segment profitability indicates yes, that idea is absurd.
No, but they could dump a bunch of money into capital assets they have no faith in if they believe that they know why there is a problem and feel they know how to fix it. Then they would take a gamble on being able to make it better. That wouldn't happen until a place like Disney decides to accept an offer that currently coincides with how the business is doing. The longer it goes downhill the lower the price would get.

Mind you, I'm not saying that it is going to happen in the immediate future, however, in my opinion if the trend continues it will happen at some point.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
No, but they could dump a bunch of money into capital assets they have no faith in if they believe that they know why there is a problem and feel they know how to fix it. Then they would take a gamble on being able to make it better. That wouldn't happen until a place like Disney decides to accept an offer that currently coincides with how the business is doing. The longer it goes downhill the lower the price would get.

Mind you, I'm not saying that it is going to happen in the immediate future, however, in my opinion if the trend continues it will happen at some point.
No. Just...no.
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
No. Just...no.
Six Flags Orlando Resort just rolls off the tongue. Just think of the attractions they would add. An RMC raptor in Space Mountain would be amazing.
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