Prices for a family of four

BoarderPhreak

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Yes, a Walt Disney World vacation is expensive, even compared to other vacations. But part of the reason it seems so much more expensive than other vacations is that you're paying all of your money to Disney, while in most other vacations you're paying smaller bills to several different companies...
I think that's the biggest issue, and one that's highly psychological. I suspect if more people added up their non-WDW vacation expenditures afterwards as compared to a largely single total price staring back at you... That the difference might not feel as extreme.
 

LaughingGravy

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It also used to be all inclusive ( sans food) , as in parking included if staying on site and MK not shutting down early for those who paid for a full day for ticketed events.
In Nov. and Dec. of 2018, I think there were 22 days of Christmas parties.
And then there's this past year's Halloween. 34! August?? September?
Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party 2018 Dates: August17, 24, 28, 31. September 3, 7, 9, 11, 14, 16, 18, 21, 23, 25, 28, 30. October 2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23, 25, 26, 28, 30, 31.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
It also used to be all inclusive ( sans food) , as in parking included if staying on site and MK not shutting down early for those who paid for a full day for ticketed events.
In Nov. and Dec. of 2018, I think there were 22 days of Christmas parties.
And then there's this past year's Halloween. 34! August?? September?
Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party 2018 Dates: August17, 24, 28, 31. September 3, 7, 9, 11, 14, 16, 18, 21, 23, 25, 28, 30. October 2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23, 25, 26, 28, 30, 31.
Who cares? That doesn't affect you in any way unless you go to the Magic Kingdom every single day of your trip. I'll be there during two August dates and guess what? I Just won't go to the Magic Kingdom those days.
 

LaughingGravy

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Who cares? That doesn't affect you in any way unless you go to the Magic Kingdom every single day of your trip. I'll be there during two August dates and guess what? I Just won't go to the Magic Kingdom those days.
I believe a lot of people care. DHS is a half day park. AK isn't far behind. Epcot is a shadow of what it used to be. MK is by far my favorite park in FL. If I am on a business trip and can manage to get to a park, it's going to be MK, where they will get my full day's single day admission and I will be there as early as I can and stay as late as I can. But if it's a party day, nope.
Guess what? The rest of the observations in that post are valid. Halloween parties in August are ridiculous.
 

eliza61nyc

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I believe a lot of people care. DHS is a half day park. AK isn't far behind. Epcot is a shadow of what it used to be. MK is by far my favorite park in FL. If I am on a business trip and can manage to get to a park, it's going to be MK, where they will get my full day's single day admission and I will be there as early as I can and stay as late as I can. But if it's a party day, nope.
Guess what? The rest of the observations in that post are valid. Halloween parties in August are ridiculous.
No way is AK a 1/2 day park
 

erasure fan1

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No way is AK a 1/2 day park
It depends, you might love wandering around and looking at the animals and the foliage... For me, and I'm guessing many others as well, it's a half day park. I'm not a huge fan of the shows and the animal exhibits I've seen many times over. I could make any park a rope drop to lights out experience, but I shouldn't have to do a bunch of things I don't want to do just to make it a full day. Avatar was a good addition but you still need to increase the ride count by at least 3 or 4 mid size rides throughout the park. Just remember, different strokes for different folks.
 

aliceismad

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It depends, you might love wandering around and looking at the animals and the foliage... For me, and I'm guessing many others as well, it's a half day park. I'm not a huge fan of the shows and the animal exhibits I've seen many times over. I could make any park a rope drop to lights out experience, but I shouldn't have to do a bunch of things I don't want to do just to make it a full day. Avatar was a good addition but you still need to increase the ride count by at least 3 or 4 mid size rides throughout the park. Just remember, different strokes for different folks.
Different strokes for different folks indeed. Disney offers shows and animals and foliage, so if people don't like those things, clearly they're going to be less interested in AK. Or HS, with all its shows. Some people don't like walking WS or taking a boat to see plants, so maybe Epcot isn't for them. If someone is just interested in the rides, maybe MK or a different brand altogether is the best place for them. One of the great things about WDW is that there is so much variety. For me, the theming and attention to detail are a big reason why I would put up the cash to go to WDW. Rides are secondary at best. We're all consumers, so Disney has to convince us all to buy.
 

seascape

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The point is that it's about "value". People find value in different ways. You find value in sleeping in the forest, me?? you could not Pay me to do that. ever. it has no value to me so any amount of money I spend on that would be wasted.

It's not about "class" system. Disney NEVER was a place where everyone could afford to go. Now I don't really consider going to the zoo as a vacation (It's more of a day outing to me, but I do get your drift.)

And again, I have had years when my budget said nope, no vacation this year. everyone does. that's real life.
Some people will never understand Walt did not like having the park full. He wanted to charge more to keep people out. Plus the admission price did not include the rides they were extra and if you add them to the admission price you will find while the price is a lot higher today it is not outrageous. You not only should take inflation into account but also family size. A family vacation in the 1960s was parents and 4 kids. Today it's a family with 1 or 2 kids. So that would make an increase of 33% on top of inflation per person about right. Another factor is that parents income is higher in their 30s than it was in their 20s and people wait longer to have children.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
It depends, you might love wandering around and looking at the animals and the foliage... For me, and I'm guessing many others as well, it's a half day park. I'm not a huge fan of the shows and the animal exhibits I've seen many times over.
I'm sorry but that's just stupid. It's no different than saying "Magic Kingdom is a quarter-day park because I don't like rides or shows so I only watch the parade and then grab lunch and head out."

You don't get to complain that there's not enough to do when you're skipping more than half of it. YOU choosing to spending a half day at DAK does not make it a half day park.
 

erasure fan1

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I'm sorry but that's just stupid. It's no different than saying "Magic Kingdom is a quarter-day park because I don't like rides or shows so I only watch the parade and then grab lunch and head out."

You don't get to complain that there's not enough to do when you're skipping more than half of it. YOU choosing to spending a half day at DAK does not make it a half day park.
Sorry pal, but I think that take is stupid. If you can't see that the park needs more attractions then you're blind. You go ahead and enjoy your complete day in Animal Kingdom. I'll get in, do the things I like, maybe eat lunch and then out by 2pm. But I guess that's not acceptable because as a Disney zombie, I should love everything they do. Shame on me I guess. :rolleyes:🤦
 

Chef Mickey

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I would estimate an "average" trip to WDW to be $1k/person/week, including food, lodging and parks. Sundries and souvenirs extra. Obviously the choice of value, moderate or deluxe accommodations will have the largest +/- effect.

That's not a cheap vacation by any stretch of the imagination.
That’s a broad statement. It all depends on comparisons. Compared to a trip to the Grand Canyon where you look into a giant hole it might be cheap,but a comparable trip that is nonstop entertainment...it’s on par to reasonable.

I’ve certainly spent a lot more on vacations than a Disney vacation.
 

eliza61nyc

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Sorry pal, but I think that take is stupid. If you can't see that the park needs more attractions then you're blind. You go ahead and enjoy your complete day in Animal Kingdom. I'll get in, do the things I like, maybe eat lunch and then out by 2pm. But I guess that's not acceptable because as a Disney zombie, I should love everything they do. Shame on me I guess. :rolleyes:🤦
it has quite a few attractions. I thought that was what everyone says makes WDW different from a 6 flags, every thing is not about rides.

Kilmanjario safaris
FOP
Navi river
kali river rapids
Dinosaurs
tough to be a bug
expedition everest
primeval whirl
wildlife express train
Up
Finding nemo the musical
festival of the lion king.

for me that's pretty much a full day. ok let's define a full day, the above with a lunch break is definitely a good 7-8 hours, now I'm not a 12 hour park gal so maybe that's the disconnect. I totally admit I'm not a park commando so I'm not running from ride to ride

Actually I must be blind because out of all the parks I think Animal kingdom needs about the least amount of work. I definitely spend waya more time here than Epcot or HS.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
it has quite a few attractions. I thought that was what everyone says makes WDW different from a 6 flags, every thing is not about rides.

Kilmanjario safaris
FOP
Navi river
kali river rapids
Dinosaurs
tough to be a bug
expedition everest
primeval whirl
wildlife express train
Up
Finding nemo the musical
festival of the lion king.

for me that's pretty much a full day. ok let's define a full day, the above with a lunch break is definitely a good 7-8 hours, now I'm not a 12 hour park gal so maybe that's the disconnect. I totally admit I'm not a park commando so I'm not running from ride to ride

Actually I must be blind because out of all the parks I think Animal kingdom needs about the least amount of work. I definitely spend waya more time here than Epcot or HS.
On an eight night trip, I spend 12 full hours in Animal Kingdom without doing anything twice. That's four hours on three different days and includes two rope drops and at least six FastPasses.

Oh and we don't stay up late so it doesn't include Rivers of Light either.
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

We are The Knights who say Nuuk
Premium Member
I don’t think there is such thing as an “average” trip. Situations and preferences are different

Sure - you could spend a week at an Irlo Bronson or some IDrive hotel for $50 a night, eat outside the parks, and your main expense becomes tickets. Then yes maybe an average trip for that type of vacation comes in at or shy of $1k per person.

But you could also stay on property at a Deluxe, eat on property - and you’ll easily exceed $1k per person.

And there are plenty of options in between. I think everyone is going to have a different definition of “average”. It could be average for me to eat at Wendy’s or it could be “average” for me to eat at a steak house.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
it has quite a few attractions. I thought that was what everyone says makes WDW different from a 6 flags, every thing is not about rides.

Kilmanjario safaris
FOP
Navi river
kali river rapids
Dinosaurs
tough to be a bug
expedition everest
primeval whirl
wildlife express train
Up
Finding nemo the musical
festival of the lion king.

for me that's pretty much a full day. ok let's define a full day, the above with a lunch break is definitely a good 7-8 hours, now I'm not a 12 hour park gal so maybe that's the disconnect. I totally admit I'm not a park commando so I'm not running from ride to ride

Actually I must be blind because out of all the parks I think Animal kingdom needs about the least amount of work. I definitely spend waya more time here than Epcot or HS.
That's great you can spend that much time there, nothings wrong with that. The park has only 7 rides, and one of them I can't stand (primeval whirl). Ive seen lion king, bug and nemo too many times. And just fyi, the train is not running now and they say it will be seasonal, so its no guarantee. But my question is why is it such a bad thing to have more rides and things to do in a park? The funny part is AK is my 2nd favorite park next to magic kingdom. And if it had 3 or 4 more mid size rides, the park would be my favorite. We should all want more of what we love at the parks, especially for the prices you pay.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
It depends, you might love wandering around and looking at the animals and the foliage... For me, and I'm guessing many others as well, it's a half day park. I'm not a huge fan of the shows and the animal exhibits I've seen many times over. I could make any park a rope drop to lights out experience, but I shouldn't have to do a bunch of things I don't want to do just to make it a full day. Avatar was a good addition but you still need to increase the ride count by at least 3 or 4 mid size rides throughout the park. Just remember, different strokes for different folks.
Understand that calling a park with objectively much more than 4-6 hours of things to do a “half day park” because it’s that FOR YOU, doesn’t mean it’s an objective fact.

I’ve done everything at Disney 100 times, so I can say the Magic Kingdom is a half day park.

Frankly, you choosing not to do half the stuff is your prerogative, but it’s also completely irrelevant when talking about a park’s offerings.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Understand that calling a park with objectively much more than 4-6 hours of things to do a “half day park” because it’s that FOR YOU, doesn’t mean it’s an objective fact.
I'm pretty sure EVERYTHING is objective. So because you think there's enough to do for 12hrs means it's an objective fact? Did I miss the part where yours and CaptainAmericas word became the gospel of truth? And so far no one has answered my question as to why wanting more rides is such a bad thing. You shouldn't have to do everything a park has to offer to make it an all day thing. Magic kingdom should be the standard you look to. With over 20 rides, plus all the shows, no one has to worry about making a day out of it. There are a lot of people who feel the same as I.
 

eliza61nyc

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That's great you can spend that much time there, nothings wrong with that. The park has only 7 rides, and one of them I can't stand (primeval whirl). Ive seen lion king, bug and nemo too many times. And just fyi, the train is not running now and they say it will be seasonal, so its no guarantee. But my question is why is it such a bad thing to have more rides and things to do in a park? The funny part is AK is my 2nd favorite park next to magic kingdom. And if it had 3 or 4 more mid size rides, the park would be rmy favorite. We should all want more of what we love at the parks, especially for the prices you pay.


lol, I think that's the "curse" us Disney fans have to endure @erasure fan1 . we go a lot and so we always want more. My oldest, god love him, loves the Indiana Jones show in HS, the boy is darn near 30 and can see that thing over and over.

It absolutely is not a bad thing to want "more" of a great thing but what it can lead to is frustration especially for us that go often. the reality is that parks have limited size and it's expensive to add more rides. look at it this way, right now they are concentrating on HS, when star wars opens I'm going to bet that that's going to be it for HS for a good long while. but ticket prices will still go up and we'll still be there a few more times so eventually we'll want more.
Hopefully after that Epcot will get some much needed love.

Actually what I think would be a better alternative is instead of more, they build rides that last longer and have bigger capacity. People eaters as it's called here. Make 1 ride that eats up 10 minutes
 

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