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[jpeden]

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Wrong. Disneyland Paris has the best version of florida's pirates. Still inferior to Disneyland's

Florida’s and DLP’s are nothing alike (having ridden both). I’ve never ridden Disneyland’s, but from what I’ve been told it’s much closer to Disneyland’s - it has two drops and the beginning in the bayou.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Florida’s and DLP’s are nothing alike (having ridden both). I’ve never ridden Disneyland’s, but from what I’ve been told it’s much closer to Disneyland’s - it has two drops and the beginning in the bayou.

No waterfall at the end though. And the caves are nothing like Disneyland's

 

[jpeden]

No waterfall at the end though. And the caves are nothing like Disneyland's

Fair enough, but I don’t think it’s fair to lump it in with Florida’s version. They don’t compare at all to me.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Fair enough, but I don’t think it’s fair to lump it in with Florida’s version. They don’t compare at all to me.

The fort queue and the shorter version of the ride are closer to florida's plus it does not have the amazing shootout ending of the original at Disneyland.

 

[N2dru]

Well there are many ways to answer your smart alec question. My snappy response is, why don't you ask Walt Disney himself since he was very involved with the design of the ride before he died? You are questioning his judgement at this point. But there are many ways to look at it. For me, personally I don't consider the Blue Bayou to be part of the ride. To me I view the bayou scene just restuarant theming as your boat passes by to get you to the show building. New Orleans Square has its main bayou themed restuarant and they designed it so it shares the same space as the entrance to Pirates so dinners can see boats go by. Disneyland is small on space and they had to be creative. Hence the 2 waterfalls(drops) to take you past the berm and under thr Disneyland Railroad into the show building and the wonderfull waterfall at the end you take to exit the show building. To me the ride starts when you get to the Jolly Roger(talking skeleton cross bones). One way to look at it is the bayou is home to pirate Jean Lefeatte and we are seeing how he spent the final days in his bayou home then we go back in time to the pirate days. Either way the design and execution is sooo flawless and seamless it all flows together beautifull while keeping in tune with the theme of the land. Unlike florida where you start at a fort then go in the future where the pirates are dead then go back in time to when they are alive. Disneyland's Pirates was perfectly designed by Walt and his original team and you still feel his presence in it today even with all the movie tie in's and pc changes. Florida's ride was a after thought and b

Smart alec question? Again everyone is entitled to their opinion. Actually DL has 2 drops because Pirates was intially going to be a walk thru basement attraction and the infrastructure was put in place before Disney (having learned more about ride capacity at the World's Fair) decided to make it a boat ride. The ride outgrew the basement (where the caverns are now). The caverns were a quick fix or filler and the drops gave the boats the momentum to make it to the larger show building outside the berm. Marc Davis is quoted as saying the upramp at the end of DL's version always bothered him, so he fought for the elimination of it in the WDW version. WDW has the one drop because Florida has a high water table and it was only included as a thrill element not an operational necessity like DL. WDW's version wasn't an afterthought but more of a rushed compromise because as you know the MK was never to receive Pirates anyway but a grander attraction in WRE. So yes WDW's version is shorter then DL because the beginning bayou scene and extended caverns plus the upramp weren't needed in Florida. Those elements were incorporated into the entrance/queue.

 

[N2dru]

Well there are many ways to answer your smart alec question. My snappy response is, why don't you ask Walt Disney himself since he was very involved with the design of the ride before he died? You are questioning his judgement at this point. But there are many ways to look at it. For me, personally I don't consider the Blue Bayou to be part of the ride. To me I view the bayou scene just restuarant theming as your boat passes by to get you to the show building. New Orleans Square has its main bayou themed restuarant and they designed it so it shares the same space as the entrance to Pirates so dinners can see boats go by. Disneyland is small on space and they had to be creative. Hence the 2 waterfalls(drops) to take you past the berm and under thr Disneyland Railroad into the show building and the wonderfull waterfall at the end you take to exit the show building. To me the ride starts when you get to the Jolly Roger(talking skeleton cross bones). One way to look at it is the bayou is home to pirate Jean Lefeatte and we are seeing how he spent the final days in his bayou home then we go back in time to the pirate days. Either way the design and execution is sooo flawless and seamless it all flows together beautifull while keeping in tune with the theme of the land. Unlike florida where you start at a fort then go in the future where the pirates are dead then go back in time to when they are alive. Disneyland's Pirates was perfectly designed by Walt and his original team and you still feel his presence in it today even with all the movie tie in's and pc changes. Florida's ride was a after thought and badly designed and executed.

Also to say Florida's was badly designed is to say the same about DL's version because it was the same team of designers that created both. They opened less then 5 years apart.
Edit: DL opened 67, WDW in 73

 

[peter11435]

Also to say Florida's was badly designed is to say the same about DL's version because it was the same team of designers that created both. They opened less then 5 years apart.

Actually, No. Same designers or not the two are not equal. Just because someone directs a good film doesn’t mean every film they direct will be good.

Also WDW’s pirates opened over 6 years after its superior Disneyland counterpart.

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

Tokyo has the best Pirates in the world now because it’s based off of DL but has none of the PC changes. DL has better caverns though.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Tokyo has the best Pirates in the world now because it’s based off of DL but has none of the PC changes. DL has better caverns though.

wrong. Disneyland is faar superior. The ending alone makes it superior. Plus it still has red as a pirate not the original red head so it has the pc changes minus the creativity and history of the original. NOOO ATTRACTION IN PARIS IS BETTER THAN THE DISNEYLAND ORIGINAL

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Also to say Florida's was badly designed is to say the same about DL's version because it was the same team of designers that created both. They opened less then 5 years apart.
Edit: DL opened 67, WDW in 73

Disney World was not going to have the pirates ride. It was added as an after thought and was a poor clone of Disneyland's.

 

[N2dru]

Actually, No. Same designers or not the two are not equal. Just because someone directs a good film doesn’t mean every film they direct will be good.

Disney World was not going to have the pirates ride. It was added as an after thought and was a poor clone of Disneyland's.

Apparently you didn't read my earlier post. Its been established WDW was not to have Pirates at all but a completely different attraction. It was brought to Florida due to popular demand and altered to fit its location in Adventureland. You can say its a poor clone (that's fine its your opinion) but I feel there are a lot of things about it that are better executed then the DL version

 

[Janir]

If Jack Sparrow/Depp is out of any movie reboot plans, and the reboot is successful, it’s inevitable that the character will be less and less relevant over time and will be removed from the attraction.
Of course, it may take 50 years for him to be removed but good things come to those who wait.

Awesome, so I'll be nearly 100 years old trying to ride PotC to see it returned to its former glory.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

I am not familiar with the queue, seemed normal to me (used fastpass). The ride is literally a plussed up version of Disneylands.

The fastpass queue is the original queue. The stand by queue is a interactive queue that ruins everything about the mansion. At first it was optional but eventually it became the main queue. Look it up on you tube.

 

[Janir]

That was a Universal picture. Disney will have to remake it.

Or just buy the studio. Iger's last act before leaving.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Apparently you didn't read my earlier post. Its been established WDW was not to have Pirates at all but a completely different attraction. It was brought to Florida due to popular demand and altered to fit its location in Adventureland. You can say its a poor clone (that's fine its your opinion) but I feel there are a lot of things about it that are better executed then the DL version

Name one. And I will EASILY counter it and prove you wrong.

 

[peter11435]

Apparently you didn't read my earlier post. Its been established WDW was not to have Pirates at all but a completely different attraction. It was brought to Florida due to popular demand and altered to fit its location in Adventureland. You can say its a poor clone (that's fine its your opinion) but I feel there are a lot of things about it that are better executed then the DL version

I read your earlier post. I was correcting the inaccuracies in the post I quoted.

 

[JohnD]

Um well everyone is entitled to their opinion. Can you at least answer how you go from a Louisiana bayou to a Caribbean town at DL? I guess it takes your 2 drops to get there. At least in Florida you start off in a Caribbean fort. IJS

Um, because the ride is in New Orleans Square?

 

[JohnD]

Do we really need this p***ing contest? One day I'd like to experience Pirates and HM in DL then be really adventurous and experience the other versions overseas.

 

[peter11435]

Ok the setting. First off WDW doesn't need the Blue Bayou. That's achieved with El Castillo and the dungeon queue. Both providing a fitting intro to an attraction called Pirates of the CARIBBEAN.

Story telling doesn’t need to be simplistic, linear, and expected. In fact it benefits when it’s none of those things.

 

[Missing20K]

Still doesn't answer how we go from New Orleans to the Caribbean.

On a boat.

Jean Lafitte (Lafitte's Landing is where we board the ride vehicles) used the Port of New Orleans (more specifically Barataria Bay), as did many other privateers, as a hideout from numerous naval authorities.