Pop Warner problems...again!

[Yankee Mouse]

I understand the issues with Pop Warner kids and Disney's failure to control them. But I don't really understand why people with 500 posts and who claim to be "certified disney dorks" would stay at the all star sports resorts during pop warner week and not expect there to be any problems. :shrug: To me I look at it as poor planning and research prior to the trip. Kind of like traveling to the Caribbean during hurricane season, its a risk.

 

[rkelly42]

I understand the issues with Pop Warner kids and Disney's failure to control them. But I don't really understand why people with 500 posts and who claim to be "certified disney dorks" would stay at the all star sports resorts during pop warner week and not expect there to be any problems. :shrug: To me I look at it as poor planning and research prior to the trip. Kind of like traveling to the Caribbean during hurricane season, its a risk.

This is very true, people should do their homework on it but Disney should also be keeping these groups in check. Not to mention it is not just at the resorts it also spills into the parks which I have personally witnessed. The real issue here is that Disney has to put down strict rules with these groups and enforce them.

 

[Graham9]

I understand the issues with Pop Warner kids and Disney's failure to control them. But I don't really understand why people with 500 posts and who claim to be "certified disney dorks" would stay at the all star sports resorts during pop warner week and not expect there to be any problems. :shrug: To me I look at it as poor planning and research prior to the trip. Kind of like traveling to the Caribbean during hurricane season, its a risk.

It may be that these resorts are the only ones available when booking, or the ones that are affordable. They may even like the place. Regardless, they are entitled to thier own peace and quiet and not to have thier vacation ruined by mindless uncontrolled morons.

I have always been dying to go back to Port Orleans because that's where we honeymooned. But I won't touch the place because of this.

 

[Master Yoda]

I understand the issues with Pop Warner kids and Disney's failure to control them. But I don't really understand why people with 500 posts and who claim to be "certified disney dorks" would stay at the all star sports resorts during pop warner week and not expect there to be any problems. :shrug: To me I look at it as poor planning and research prior to the trip. Kind of like traveling to the Caribbean during hurricane season, its a risk.

While true you should be able to book any Disney resort and receive a certain level of service. Disney knows that these groups cause problems and should have extra security in place to control it. From some reports it sounds like extra security was in place but from others it sounds like the extra measures were inadequate.

 

[Testtrack321]

I understand the issues with Pop Warner kids and Disney's failure to control them. But I don't really understand why people with 500 posts and who claim to be "certified disney dorks" would stay at the all star sports resorts during pop warner week and not expect there to be any problems. :shrug: To me I look at it as poor planning and research prior to the trip. Kind of like traveling to the Caribbean during hurricane season, its a risk.

I disagree. You shouldn't have to do your homework to find out where and when Pop Warner is on property. Disney should offer a safe and pleasant atmosphere for everyone, from those at the All-Stars or the Polynesian. Plus you are never guaranteed a location or to be away from them.

 

[loveofamouse]

I understand the issues with Pop Warner kids and Disney's failure to control them. But I don't really understand why people with 500 posts and who claim to be "certified disney dorks" would stay at the all star sports resorts during pop warner week and not expect there to be any problems. :shrug: To me I look at it as poor planning and research prior to the trip. Kind of like traveling to the Caribbean during hurricane season, its a risk.

Many people don't even think to look for cheer week. I have kids. I cheered. My dd cheers. Yet I never think to look for when cheer week is. Also, sometimes people are limited to going on a particular timeframe. For example, we are military. We have to coordinate our vacations with the gov'ts needs and the command. Then, there's also the kids' school schedule and my college schedule. Sometimes, that leaves us just 1 week to pick from in a 6 month time frame.

As I said, what Disney needs to do is just put an (*) with a warning on the reservation pages for the hotels being involved. Sometimes they spill into other hotels that may not have been used last time. Just post a simple warning.

 

[PhilharMagician]

We had seen a lot of them in the parks last week, but it wasn't as bad as I have seen in years past with the cheering groups screaming their cheers in the ride queue's. It may jus have been a matter of luck this time. We did however see many packs of these kids in the parks late at night after their 10:00 PM curfew which simply means they were not really being watched.

Please write to guest relations and let them know what happened. It is unexceptable to have that happen.

 

[Phonedave]

I disagree. You shouldn't have to do your homework to find out where and when Pop Warner is on property. Disney should offer a safe and pleasant atmosphere for everyone, from those at the All-Stars or the Polynesian. Plus you are never guaranteed a location or to be away from them.

Exactly.

It is one thing if you don't do your "homework" and you find the resort is crowded and you are waiting for busses and the food court is packed. That is your fault if you do not plan ahead.

However, there is no reason for unsupervised children keeping people awake past the designated quite hours. That is something that you should not have to worry about when deciding where to stay.

-dave

 

[marni1971]

Joe blogs from the UK wouldn`t know what a `cheer` was, let alone know how to find this during their Magical stay.

The sooner the bad press gets to Disney and they actively do something about it the better.

 

[Fable McCloud]

This is why I will always go in early October, or early March...I work at a high school and I don't think I could deal with the Pop Warner kids without using my teacher voice.

 

[draybook]

I'm shocked that nobody included Pop Warner as a contact to complain to. It's what we did last year. Now their response wasn't exactly what we wanted to hear but I imagine that if they receive enough complaints they might act on it.

 

[captainkidd]

I really and truly despise that despite these problems, which we read about EVERY year, Disney still welcomes these groups back. At some point, someone there needs to choose class over cash.

 

[loveofamouse]

That's what I ssaid. Contact PW and complain to them. It would be even better if you could figure out which squad it was.

 

[captainkidd]

I'm shocked that nobody included Pop Warner as a contact to complain to. It's what we did last year. Now their response wasn't exactly what we wanted to hear but I imagine that if they receive enough complaints they might act on it.

Canned response. They could care less.

 

[captainkidd]

File a complaint. In writing. Not verbal. Demand to be moved. To a mod if you can argue the point of compensation. And mention that Disney know about the problems year after year but still take the money and fill the rooms.

This is what I would do.

 

[dreamfinder]

Canned response. They could care less.

After the fact, they can't do much about it. But if they get caught out of room after curfew, the team could be removed from the tourney. Complaints needed to go to Pop Warner at that point. Yeah, it is much easier to complain on boards, and call the desk, but you need to go to the source. Complain to Disney by all means, but Pop Warner needs to know. If you know the team/squad, even better.

All teams will observe a 10:00 P.M. Curfew. As such, all players must be in their assigned sleeping rooms by 10:00 P.M. or players, coaches,the team and/or association shall be subject to disciplinary action including but not limited to forfeiture of past or future game decisions, suspension, removal from Disney property, financial penalties and/or permanent removal from Pop Warner.
However, participants accompanied by their designated chaperones that are at least 21 years or older who are returning from organized team activities (including without limitation themepark excursions, group dinners, or the Pop Warner Wednesday night Party) outside of their hotels shall be excused from such curfew but MUST be immediately escorted by such chaperones to their rooms upon returning to their hotels. To clarify, when on All-Star or Port Orleans Property, ALL participants MUST be in their rooms by 10 P.M. regardless of whether their competition has begun, is ongoing or is completed Any players found outside their assigned rooms past 10:00 P.M. while they are still registered as a Pop Warner group shall be subject to disciplinary action along with their coaches, teams, and/or associations as stated above. Pop Warner National, Regional and Event Staff shall be conducting daily checks to ensure compliance.

 

[fosse76]

Laying in bed at All Star Sports at 12:20am. Disney Security finally taking care of the mongrels. Yelling, screaming, running up and down the halls, no supervision, and every other word is the f-bomb. Called front desk and about 5minutes later I hear someone yell to get back on their rooms. That lasted about 2 minutes. Called again, same results. Called again and now they are all running back and forth between the rooms and its 11:30pm. Called AGAIN. This time Disney Security showed up in force. I could hear them talking outside my window and I went to talk to them. They caught a bunch of them in the stairwell. Now they are making the coaches do a he'd count, but I can hear the coaches saying that when they knock on doors, nobody answers. This is just fantastic.

I Just got back (last night, actually) fro All Star Sports myself. I did not experience any of the problems you experienced. The adults, were worse than the kids, but they weren't causing any problems (the group staying below me were ALWAYS outside their room sitting in chairs, drinking and smoking, but they weren't disruptive...just trashy). And while occasionally I would hear thumping (as if someone were running), it didn't seem out of the ordinary. I constantly saw security roaming around. As for profanity, I personally didn't hear anything, but who cares? Kids swear.

So no sleep and they can't round up all the kids so they can put an end to it. I change my vacation date a week later just so I wouldn't have to put up with this crap, so much for that. I'm thoroughly ed at the 2 hour response and inability of these Pop Warner coaches to be able to keep their flock in check. I think its like 3 coaches and ZERO parents with this team.

Since this was obviously an issue in your particular building, you should have asked to be moved.

 

[DisneyJoe]

the group staying below me were ALWAYS outside their room sitting in chairs

From talking to my neighbors, who are both teachers who have been involved in taking high school students on trips to Disney, this is standard methodology - the children are all put in rooms all facing the same direction, so the chaperones can sit in chairs facing the rooms to keep a watch on the students. This allows them to see the maximum number of rooms from a single vantage point.

They should take turns patrolling the floors.

Apparently some adults take this more seriously than others.

 

[captainkidd]

From talking to my neighbors, who are both teachers who have been involved in taking high school students on trips to Disney, this is standard methodology - the children are all put in rooms all facing the same direction, so the chaperones can sit in chairs facing the rooms to keep a watch on the students. This allows them to see the maximum number of rooms from a single vantage point.

They should take turns patrolling the floors.

Apparently some adults take this more seriously than others.

From every experience with these groups I've seen, they sit outside their own rooms, getting drunk as skunks, yelling across to some other drunk "chaperone" on the other side of the building.

 

[fosse76]

From talking to my neighbors, who are both teachers who have been involved in taking high school students on trips to Disney, this is standard methodology - the children are all put in rooms all facing the same direction, so the chaperones can sit in chairs facing the rooms to keep a watch on the students. This allows them to see the maximum number of rooms from a single vantage point.

They should take turns patrolling the floors.

Apparently some adults take this more seriously than others.

Well, it looked more like a scene out of King of the Hill as opposed to chaperoning...but you're probably right that that's what they were doing. And you are right about chaperones. Even when I worked at *gasp* Six Flags, parents were ALWAYS worse than kids. They don't care what the rules are...it applies to others, not them.