Sept. 11, 2001. They decided not to finish it because tourism dropped drastically after 9-11.
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Pop Century Phase 2 to be torn down?
- Thread starter mousermerf
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Sept. 11, 2001. They decided not to finish it because tourism dropped drastically after 9-11.
Not necessarily. They could file a permit and show up with a wrecking ball pretty much as soon as it was approved. In all probability we will see a permit filed at least a few days before demolition starts if it in fact does.
While it might not rot in a traditional sense like wood, leaving it fully exposed like it has been will degrade it quite rapidly. Small cracks start to form allowing water and air to get to the structural steel and rebar. Once that happens the steel starts to rust. When steel rusts it expands which will cause the concrete to fracture even further and it will eventually fail. There is also the issue of plants growing in the cracks which will bust up concrete like a jack hammer.According to this video they are nothing but concrete structures with the plumbing stub outs and pipes in them...I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to continue construction. Concrete won't rot...
It very well might be possible to salvage these buildings. The X factor is going to be getting a professional engineer to sign off on it. If there is even the slightest bit of doubt in a professional engineer's mind he/she will never approve it.
shutnak879
New Member
I have to agree that video is kind of creepy. It is sad to know those buildings are just sitting there.
I personally think something should've been done with the space about 2 or 3 yeaqrs ago. It's bad show to leave buildings in that state, but then again I'm not sure anything else could've been done. I hope they continue down the family suite route with the site as I believe this is an underserved market at WDW. I think a DVC property there doesn't make any sense other than location and I'm somewhat sure DVC members wouldn't want to be *that* close to a value resort (and we're DVC members ).
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Ausdaddy
Active Member
Has anyone around here received notices of major work in September? That's when I'm going and would need to decide whether to keep our plans there or not.
RiversideBunny
New Member
It's also very possible that the final design for 'Pop Century Family Suites' does not match the footprint of the existing construction.
It will be along Western Way. Kind of behind AK and CS
If they use the same plan that they did at ASM then it will be the same. Remember all they really did to make the current value suites was knock down part of the dividing wall between 2 existing rooms and make a suite.It's also very possible that the final design for 'Pop Century Family Suites' does not match the footprint of the existing construction.
RiversideBunny
New Member
If I were the designing architect for the Pop Century Suites, I would want a free hand in how the buildings and the layout look, and not be hampered by some existing slabs and partial walls which are relatively cheap to demolish at this point.
The new Pop Century Family Suites do not have to follow the pattern of the trial family rooms at the AllStar resort.
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The new Pop Century Family Suites do not have to follow the pattern of the trial family rooms at the AllStar resort.
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You are correct, they do not have to, but there is no reason that they can't or shouldn't. While most architectes would love to work with a blank page that scenario happens much less often then you would think. With a project like the value resorts the architect will have fairly limited creative input. They are designing a box with a series of identical rooms in it. They already have a floor plan that works and trying to reinvent the wheel is not something you want to do on a project like this.
kcnole
Well-Known Member
My guess is that with the growing interest in the Flamingo's Crossing or whatever horrible name they gave that new cheaper area that they don't feel they'll need any more value resorts for the time being. I'd really rather they finish out the pop though. Hourglass lake just doesn't make any sense without the other side of the resort.
Cnrtygirl
Member
lpet11984
Well-Known Member
I'm at least glad to hear there are lots of other options should they need to demolish it-- upon starting to hear about the possibility of demolision, I was pretty nervous. Whatever the result, I certinaly hope it involes finishing off the resort. There's so much they could still do with the ideas and to have two sides to the resort is just COOL. It would make POP even more appealing with the extra finished walkways connecting the two halves, all the different theming/pools/stores/etc.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
what? are you some engineer or something
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sooo, they have been exposed for about 8 years now huh? all i know is, if the weeds and other plants seem to grow near that cement like they do in my yard, im surprised that thing isnt covered by now. i wonder if they are spending money on weed control around the structures.
A year ago I could not spell engineer. Now thanks to a Devry home study course I is one.:lookarounwhat? are you some engineer or something
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sooo, they have been exposed for about 8 years now huh? all i know is, if the weeds and other plants seem to grow near that cement like they do in my yard, im surprised that thing isnt covered by now. i wonder if they are spending money on weed control around the structures.
What is actually there on those exposed foundations? Is there a full slab or just the stem wall?
sweetpee_1993
Well-Known Member
Last time I looked there were no windows or doors. Rain with wind will get inside the structures. Think hurricane.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Sad,but I'm still waiting for a Hampton/Disney Alliance.
PigletIsMyCat
Well-Known Member
Last time I looked there were no windows or doors. Rain with wind will get inside the structures. Think hurricane.
Last I saw it, there were doors and windows. The video linked on page 2 of this thread also shows windows and doors (almost all of which are closed).