Pocahontas Show Closing

Lucky

Well-Known Member
My 6-year-old daughter will probably miss this one a bit, but I have a feeling she would have grown out of it sooner or later anyhow. This was a good show for the little kids... but since my youngest is now 6, I don't think we will lose any sleep over the fact that it is closing.
Yeah, my kids will grow out of it soon too. So WDW doesn't need any kids' attractions anymore. Shut them all down.
 

Yankeeplex

New Member
I can't believe that we never did this...I don't know what the heck we were doing, but I would have loved to see it. I am sure my 5 year old daughter would have loved it. Oh, well...bring on the new!!
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
Those are hardly old log flume rides lol.

But in all honesty the ride I most want to see them do is the Geyser one they were talking about to go next to BTMR in FL. It was supposedly gonna be an inverted version of ToT kinda deal

Actually, I believe it was planned for Disneyland's Fronteirland, where they *can* dig into the ground, and not the MK's Fronteirland, where the high water table wouldn't allow them to dig down.

-Rob
 

WDWGoof07

Well-Known Member
Actually, I believe it was planned for Disneyland's Fronteirland, where they *can* dig into the ground, and not the MK's Fronteirland, where the high water table wouldn't allow them to dig down.

-Rob

Geyser Mountain was first planned for Phase 2 at Disneyland Paris, but was scrapped when the resort underperformed. The ride would have used TOT technology (remember the TOT's elevators in DHS are independent vehicles that drive themselves in the Twilight Zone and drop shafts) to take guests in a mine car to encounter the Ol' Unfaithful geyser. Instead of dropping you, though, the highlight would be the geyser eruption that shot guests up the shaft, so it could have been built in Florida had Disney decided to clone it. The effects would have been quite impressive, too. There was a rainbow cavern scene, parts of your car would have broken off during the eruption, and the vehicle would have even broke through the roof giving riders a view of DLP and guests on the ground a preview of what was to come. WDI tried to get it built in Disneyland CA on the Big Thunder Ranch site when it was scrapped at DLP, but Geyser Mountain never came to fruition (too bad, it sounded great)

Back on topic, I never got around to seeing the Pocahontas show, but I hope Disney comes up with a great replacement because DAK does not have a large number of attractions. Hopefully it's a sign that Beastly Kingdom or something big is on the way. If they do level CMM, I hope they find a home in Africa for FOTLK because it is a great show.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
OKay JT, what's up. That's an awfully closemouthed post for you! :D

Unfortunately I have no inside information on this but I believe this is much more than cost cutting and fits very well with recent rumors. I have some other posts in this thread with my opinions.

:ROFLOL:OH my goodness, I just hit the floor. Loved the visual that came to mind. You have such an interesting view Pumbas!

I just keep wondering what it would actually sound like. Maybe like a very deep tonal sound of a cork popping but in reverse :lol:
 

WildLodgeFan

New Member
Unfortunately I have no inside information on this but I believe this is much more than cost cutting and fits very well with recent rumors. I have some other posts in this thread with my opinions.



I just keep wondering what it would actually sound like. Maybe like a very deep tonal sound of a cork popping but in reverse :lol:

Well here's keeping fingers crossed for the "Beastly Kingdom" or at least something interesting. DAK could use some love.

Like the cork reference BTW. :lol:
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
WDW is still running a Pocohontas stage show? In the 21st century?!? That movie was in theaters 13 years ago.

Disneyland had a wonderful Spirit of Pocohontas show that ran in the Fantasyland Theater for two years, 1995 to 1997, and then was retired and swapped out for something new. It was a great show, but come on! http://www.yesterland.com/spirit.html

I'm amazed that WDW would run a Pocohontas show for 13 years! :eek:
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
WDW is still running a Pocohontas stage show? In the 21st century?!? That movie was in theaters 13 years ago.

Disneyland had a wonderful Spirit of Pocohontas show that ran in the Fantasyland Theater for two years, 1995 to 1997, and then was retired and swapped out for something new. It was a great show, but come on! http://www.yesterland.com/spirit.html

I'm amazed that WDW would run a Pocohontas show for 13 years! :eek:

Um... any thing at Disney that isn't Pixar.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
IMHO it is not a big loss. It was a cute show that I took in a couple of times either before or after FOTLK. The little ones liked the animals and the message of conservation message was good but ultimately the show could best be described a forgettable.
 

CThaddeus

New Member
WDW is still running a Pocohontas stage show? In the 21st century?!? That movie was in theaters 13 years ago.

Disneyland had a wonderful Spirit of Pocohontas show that ran in the Fantasyland Theater for two years, 1995 to 1997, and then was retired and swapped out for something new. It was a great show, but come on! http://www.yesterland.com/spirit.html

I'm amazed that WDW would run a Pocohontas show for 13 years! :eek:

Then you're going to have a heart attack when you hear Beauty and the Beast has been playing at the Studios for 17 years. Why is it so shocking that a show might play a long time? Not to mention that up until just this summer there were TWO shows at Disneyland based on a movie released in 1992 - Aladddin!
Pocahontas and Her Forest Friends served a dual purpose for Animal Kingdom - an enjoyable attraction for those who bothered to visit it and a way to showcase animals and conservation in an unusual way. Now, unless they've actually got plans for that area, we're looking at a pretty empty land...almost not worth the rather long walk required to get there.
 

Lucky

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Then you're going to have a heart attack when you hear Beauty and the Beast has been playing at the Studios for 17 years. Why is it so shocking that a show might play a long time? Not to mention that up until just this summer there were TWO shows at Disneyland based on a movie released in 1992 - Aladddin!
Pocahontas and Her Forest Friends served a dual purpose for Animal Kingdom - an enjoyable attraction for those who bothered to visit it and a way to showcase animals and conservation in an unusual way. Now, unless they've actually got plans for that area, we're looking at a pretty empty land...almost not worth the rather long walk required to get there.
I agree.

Toy Story is also 13 years old, so should Buzz Lightyear be shut down?

The Little Mermaid is 19 years old. So goodbye, Voyage of the Little Mermaid attraction. And that Mickey guy is reeeeeallly old - why is he still around?
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I agree.

Toy Story is also 13 years old, so should Buzz Lightyear be shut down?

The Little Mermaid is 19 years old. So goodbye, Voyage of the Little Mermaid attraction. And that Mickey guy is reeeeeallly old - why is he still around?
13 years is nothing. Peter Pan has been around as early as 1902 but has worked for the mouse since 1954, Snow White dates back as far as the mid 1800's and got her start with Disney in 1938. I guess we should kick Cinderella out her house and move Giselle in as Cindy has definitely worn out her welcome over the last 58 years.:lol:
 

nibblesandbits

Well-Known Member
Then you're going to have a heart attack when you hear Beauty and the Beast has been playing at the Studios for 17 years. Why is it so shocking that a show might play a long time? Not to mention that up until just this summer there were TWO shows at Disneyland based on a movie released in 1992 - Aladddin!
Pocahontas and Her Forest Friends served a dual purpose for Animal Kingdom - an enjoyable attraction for those who bothered to visit it and a way to showcase animals and conservation in an unusual way. Now, unless they've actually got plans for that area, we're looking at a pretty empty land...almost not worth the rather long walk required to get there.
I don't think it's so much how long the attraction lasted, as it is how long the attraction lasted given the movie that it was centered around.


Beauty & the Beast is a timeless movie that has stood the test of time...Same with other movies mentioned here...Peter Pan, Snow White, Toy Story, The Little Mermaid.

The problem is...Pocahontas has not stood the test of time. It is not as timeless as those movies listed above. It's not really a movie that most people think of when they think of Disney. I tend to think more of the movies that I just listed above. And I know that if I, as Disney fanatic, tend to think of the other movies more...the general public more than likely feels the same way.

That's why I think people are more shocked that a Pocahontas show is still around.
 

CThaddeus

New Member
I don't think it's so much how long the attraction lasted, as it is how long the attraction lasted given the movie that it was centered around.


Beauty & the Beast is a timeless movie that has stood the test of time...Same with other movies mentioned here...Peter Pan, Snow White, Toy Story, The Little Mermaid.

The problem is...Pocahontas has not stood the test of time. It is not as timeless as those movies listed above. It's not really a movie that most people think of when they think of Disney. I tend to think more of the movies that I just listed above. And I know that if I, as Disney fanatic, tend to think of the other movies more...the general public more than likely feels the same way.

That's why I think people are more shocked that a Pocahontas show is still around.

Goodbye Dinosaur!, Mr. Toad (Disneyland), Splash Mountain (While a classic, Song of the South does not have the popularity to justify its continued existence), Song of the Rainforest, Swiss Family Treehouse, Gadget's Go Coaster (Disneyland), most of Storybook Land (Disneyland), and Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Spin (I love him, but he's just not popular enough anymore). Why must something be considered a classic to have an attraction based on it?
Besides, the Pocahontas show isn't a rehashing of the story anyway. She and Grandmother Willow are used to create a connection of sorts. It's easier to get into a story if you have some idea who the characters are.
 

nibblesandbits

Well-Known Member
Goodbye Dinosaur!, Mr. Toad (Disneyland), Splash Mountain (While a classic, Song of the South does not have the popularity to justify its continued existence), Song of the Rainforest, Swiss Family Treehouse, Gadget's Go Coaster (Disneyland), most of Storybook Land (Disneyland), and Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Spin (I love him, but he's just not popular enough anymore). Why must something be considered a classic to have an attraction based on it?
Besides, the Pocahontas show isn't a rehashing of the story anyway. She and Grandmother Willow are used to create a connection of sorts. It's easier to get into a story if you have some idea who the characters are.
It's very true that the attractions that you named are from movies or shows that are not as popular now as they had been...and as I have never been to DL...I will be going in Sept, but I haven't been yet, so it would be unfair for me to judge their park.

However, in respect to the attractions at WDW...it is true that Splash and Dinosaur are based off of lesser known attractions, but they are still considered to be popular. Swiss Family Treehouse...I can't say much about that one...I've never actually been over there. Nor do I know why that hasn't been touched. I think it might be due to nostalgia of the fact that it's an original...but I don't really know.

The Pocahontas show though my of this was, like Swiss Family Treehouse, it's not something most people think of...people don't usually plan their days going...ooh!! Let's go see the Pocahontas show. It was more of an afterthought or something to do while waiting for FOLK. The other thing that probably killed it that's kept Swiss Family Treehouse from being removed, is that this show did have a cast, albiet, a small one. Since Swiss Family pretty much doesn't really cost much to run, I'm guessing that's why it's still around as well.

I'm not saying that the fact that Pocahontas was not a classic is what really killed it...it was a combination of things...however, I'm sure it was a decent part of the reason, as well as some other factors. And since I don't work for Disney and wasn't privy to the meetings, I don't know how much of a factor it more than likely was.
 

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