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nickys
Premium Member
There are posts in the Genie+ thread suggesting that the problem they’re trying to solve is where guests buy G+ and then don’t get decent passes. The way they are planning to solve that is to limit the number of people buying it, until next year when they plan much bigger changes to the system.
That suggests that for the rest of the year it could be that buying it at midnight might be the only way to guarantee being able to get it at all. They could change the time at which people can buy it of course. Either way if resort guests who want to buy it get shut out, that could also be a problem for them.
Stupido
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I also feel like there’s been over censoring and ridiculous deletion of threads that has had a negative impact on a lot of posters here. There have been numerous threads that have just disappeared overnight that are important to the discussion of the Parks and the Company. I’ve noticed a lot of people on a specific side of the issues have just given up, as the other side has been able to continuously say that groups of people don’t deserve rights or to be valued. It’s extremely discouraging and makes me feel flat out unwelcomed on this site. It’s driving members away, leaving only people who feel disenfranchised with Disney.
This brings me to my second point, there is an overwhelming amount of negativity coursing through this site. No matter what Disney does, it’s wrong, and you’re a “pixie-duster” if you say you like absolutely anything WDI is putting together. Is the company in its best shape it’s ever been? Absolutely not. But that doesn’t mean that great things aren’t still happening, and fans have nothing they could be excited about. This forum has become overwhelmingly doom and gloom, to the point where posting here can get exhausting. It’s just not a fun place anymore, and I’m starting to get to the point where I think it might be time to take my opinions someplace else.
This brings me to my second point, there is an overwhelming amount of negativity coursing through this site. No matter what Disney does, it’s wrong, and you’re a “pixie-duster” if you say you like absolutely anything WDI is putting together. Is the company in its best shape it’s ever been? Absolutely not. But that doesn’t mean that great things aren’t still happening, and fans have nothing they could be excited about. This forum has become overwhelmingly doom and gloom, to the point where posting here can get exhausting. It’s just not a fun place anymore, and I’m starting to get to the point where I think it might be time to take my opinions someplace else.
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I don’t believe they have any solutions that will work as it stands…but that’s just my opinion based on past knowledge.
I bet others here with a closer ear to the ground can provide a better assessment.
I don’t believe this is a staffing/management thing…I think it’s a numbers issue that they poured gasoline on when they went to pay to play
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Your feelings are definitely warranted…but I think you have to make specific points beyond generalities.
Criticism does tend to seem more targeted…mostly management based and calling out errors with infrastructure and investment from years ago that are now hitting the ground.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
That's been the issue with it since day 1. I have said since the beginning it doesn't work when everyone can have it. It's why every other park limits skip the line passes. The problem Disney has is they made people believe that you can't tour the park without it.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m not sure you can?
Someone started a thread that showed a screen shot of mgm waits yesterday…about 2 on a Wednesday when a bulk of Disney core customers are still in school (eastern seaboard)…
It’s not possible to enjoy that to the level needed for the price. Quagmire.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
Unless they add a bunch of attractions quickly, which we know isn't happening, there is no way to make everyone happy.
jloucks
Well-Known Member
You can't. At least, I can't. Won't.
But some can and so the issue perpetuates.
Married5Times
Well-Known Member
"descent" ..........I like it; if even by mistake because it actually works as if "taking the low road" and owning up to it.
jloucks
Well-Known Member
Add a bunch of attractions and quadrupling price might actually work. If you are looking to control crowds, price is the only real tool. Well, or ticket caps, but why would WDW do that?
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
I was referring to Genie+. There is no skip the line system that works when it's available to everyone. Capping sales is a good start.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Diamond Dot
Well-Known Member
I managed without the Genie+, but, for the simple reason that I was there for 14 days and I'll be honest, if I was there for a 4-5 day vaction I would be tempted. I did buy the Genie+ for my last full day in the park, I have no idea why, perhaps just to test it out for my next trip and it was a big waste of money, I got a refund after complaining to a CM, the only good thing about it was the magical lenses and I wish they would do that as a separate item as well as being part of Genie+. The Genie+ is a disaster, but, so long as people who have not experienced the disaster it is carry on buying it then Disney will continue to push it.
Stupido
Well-Known Member
Sure.
There is a big issue regarding Homophobia on this site right now. Sure, it's impacting the entire world, but we're discussing these boards currently. There is a group of members that have made it their mission to constantly bring up their outrage with Disney for finally putting their money where their mouth is and supporting the LGBTQIA+ community. It's taken over many threads, the majority of which had nothing to do with Queer rights until it was brought up and forced into the conversation in a negative connotation. For a while, there was a solid group of members working together to combat this, but the over-policing, and treatment as if both sides of the argument are wrong has caused the majority to just give up. I understand people can have differing opinions, and there can be civilized discussions working through that. But very few conversations on the subject have been civilized, and this isn't a subject where both sides can be right. One side is legitimately grounded in hate, and is actively trying to make the other feel less than, and like they don't deserve a place in this world. If you actively work to remove someone else's seat from the table, you forfeit your own. Disney has chosen to take a side in this "debate," to the point where they have upgraded their core business values to showcase inclusivity. It's part of the company now, and we deserve to be able to celebrate that, while other's need to accept that. Just last night a thread was taken down celebrating the fact that the Purple Wall in Tomorrrowland received a rainbow update. Every thread celebrating anything with Queer Inclusivity vanishes because a select subset can't handle that the world is changing and that their hatred no longer has a place in it.
Speaking to my other point, just look at the Epcot sub-forum. Do people have the right to be upset that their favorite park from their childhood is changing? Absolutely. Do they have the right to attack and mock people for being actively excited for the changes? Absolutely not. Do those posts gets edited and removed like anything supporting LGBTQIA rights? Mysteriously not.
I have seen some pretty cruel posts from "insiders" completely mocking other posters go untouched because of their status as an insider. That's pure favoritism, and something I'm not really interested in participating with anymore.I think the Mods have become pretty transparent in where their beliefs lie, and they have no problem using their power to enforce what they want to.
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WDI has had it’s clean up of execs with some top execs “ retiring “ in the last few years.
Because it would be absolutely the best thing for the guest experience?
So it won’t happen (enough) under the current regime. The day Chapek called guests “consumers” the writing was on the wall.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
The problem is also they focus too much on every ride being marketable now. They need more C- ticket level attractions in each park.
jloucks
Well-Known Member
Consumers, ha, that is some capitalist level designation right there.
I do prefer that to sucker tho. ...I hear there is one born every minute.