Planet Hollywood unveils redesign for Disney Springs

[halltd]

I'll be honest and say when I first saw the round tubes going up and it was evident that standing seam metal was out of the question, that I thought this was going to be a horrible idea. But, now that they've gotten 98% of the wrinkles out of the two sections that are up, I think it actually looks very convincing. However, if there's even one wrinkle, the jig is up. So, they better get them ALL out and hope they stay out!

I'm cautiously optimistic now that this is still going to turn out very nice.

Then again, anything is better than what was there before.

 

[Ismael Flores]

I'm just curious why they would put the fabric on first before painting the structure lattice that runs up the dome dividing each section.

Wouldn't it makes sense to paint that first then put the tarps?

 

[halltd]

I'm just curious why they would put the fabric on first before painting the structure lattice that runs up the dome dividing each section.

Wouldn't it makes sense to paint that first then put the tarps?

They've been painted already.

 

[raymusiccity]

I'll be honest and say when I first saw the round tubes going up and it was evident that standing seam metal was out of the question, that I thought this was going to be a horrible idea. But, now that they've gotten 98% of the wrinkles out of the two sections that are up, I think it actually looks very convincing. However, if there's even one wrinkle, the gig is up. So, they better get them ALL out and hope they stay out!

I'm cautiously optimistic now that this is still going to turn out very nice.

Then again, anything is better than what was there before.

Well, 'if there's even one wrinkle' :

 

[Ismael Flores]

They've been painted already.

I thought they were going to be blue like the art or is that just lighting

 

[mm121]

I'm still and always have been surprised that they didn't completely reskin PH. I thought it would get a totally new facade, I mean it is. But I never thought they'd build on top of the old one

yea thats kinda surprising, though the shape was a bit different with the design carved into the stucko

I guess at some point they will have to install the observatory's "doors". Unless they've been cut from the plan.

guessing cut which is unfortunate

really not a fan of the "fabric" covering

i wonder if maybe its a structural decision to use fabric instead of covering it with metal

I thought they were going to be blue like the art or is that just lighting

pretty sure its just lighting at night judging from the concept art

 

[mm121]

Looks tacky AF

agreed

a part of me is hoping that the fabric is maybe temporary while the real roof and telescope doors are being fabricated so the business can go ahead and open

though that is highly unlikely, looks like the "doors" were cut from the plan

 

[G00fyDad]

I was under the impression (remember, I know nothing of construction) that they were putting the fabric there as a "backing" of sorts and were planning on spraying a fiberglass or something onto it to give it a more permanent and solid look.

 

[networkpro]

I did pay attention...
a. Teflon doesn't last forever but hopefully longer than a Sun-setter Awning.
b. There is nothing in the documentation that says how long the fabric can last in certain elements. Sure it has a heat rating, but it is more cost efficient than a hard-cover top for the PH dome?

PTFE fiberglass coating is chemically inert, capable of withstanding temperatures from -100°F to +450°F (-73°C to +232°C). The low-surface free energy of the material creates a surface which is readily cleaned by rainwater. It is also completely immune to UV degradation. This unique combination of inertness, thermal stability and surface properties make PTFE-coated fabric membrane ideal for projects requiring superior weather and fire resistance. PTFE fiberglass structures have been constructed around the world with acceptance by British, French, Italian, Australian, Japanese and German National Standards, as well as guidelines set by the American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM).

PTFE fiberglass is additionally Energy Star and Cool Roof Rating Council certified. During scientific tests of its solar properties, it was discovered that PTFE fiberglass membranes reflect as much as 73 percent of the sun’s energy while holding just seven percent on its exterior surface. Certain grades of PTFE fiberglass can absorb 14 percent of the sun’s energy while allowing 13 percent of natural daylight and seven percent of re-radiated energy (solar heat) to transmit through.

 

[Ismael Flores]

yea thats kinda surprising, though the shape was a bit different with the design carved into the stucko

guessing cut which is unfortunate

really not a fan of the "fabric" covering

i wonder if maybe its a structural decision to use fabric instead of covering it with metal


pretty sure its just lighting at night judging from the concept art

Ah yes it does look like lighting, hadn't really paid attention much to the art. I just remembered it being blue. Thanks

 

[wdizneew]

PTFE fiberglass coating is chemically inert, capable of withstanding temperatures from -100°F to +450°F (-73°C to +232°C). The low-surface free energy of the material creates a surface which is readily cleaned by rainwater. It is also completely immune to UV degradation. This unique combination of inertness, thermal stability and surface properties make PTFE-coated fabric membrane ideal for projects requiring superior weather and fire resistance. PTFE fiberglass structures have been constructed around the world with acceptance by British, French, Italian, Australian, Japanese and German National Standards, as well as guidelines set by the American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM).

PTFE fiberglass is additionally Energy Star and Cool Roof Rating Council certified. During scientific tests of its solar properties, it was discovered that PTFE fiberglass membranes reflect as much as 73 percent of the sun’s energy while holding just seven percent on its exterior surface. Certain grades of PTFE fiberglass can absorb 14 percent of the sun’s energy while allowing 13 percent of natural daylight and seven percent of re-radiated energy (solar heat) to transmit through.

To sum it up: Science!

 

[njDizFan]

Is this type of fabric completely opaque or does it allow for lighting to come through. If that's the case perhaps a lighting element underneath would make the dome appear to glow. And with the proper LEDs thy could change the color for season or continuously

 

[ChrisM]

I'm going to buck the trend here and say, from the most recent pictures and assuming the fabric stays taut, it actually looks pretty good.

If I didn't know it was fabric I'd have guessed it was just the very thin metal skin used in older observatory domes.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Budget is starting to look a bit Blah if you ask me..

 

[Prince Thomas]

Well Planet Hollywood is tacky, so this fits the bill nicely.

Truth LMAO

 

[janiak1285]

I did pay attention...
a. Teflon doesn't last forever but hopefully longer than a Sun-setter Awning.
b. There is nothing in the documentation that says how long the fabric can last in certain elements. Sure it has a heat rating, but it is more cost efficient than a hard-cover top for the PH dome?

PTFE coated fiberglass is very hardy, that's why many major sports arenas around the globe use it for their roof systems. Look at the Arizona Cardinals or Dallas Cowboy facilities as examples. Both have fiberglass roof systems. What hurts fabrics is normally UV rays, well UV rays do very little to breakdown fiberglass over time making it a great exterior material. Fiberglass also when woven for this application has a very high tensile and tear strength making it durable to handle Florida storms. This material probably has a 20-25 year minimum life expectancy. The strength and life of this product comes from the underlying fiberglass, the Teflon just helps to reduce the amount of debris that sticks on the surface helping to reduce maintenance.

 

[janiak1285]

I was under the impression (remember, I know nothing of construction) that they were putting the fabric there as a "backing" of sorts and were planning on spraying a fiberglass or something onto it to give it a more permanent and solid look.

No this fabric is made out of a PTFE coated woven fiberglass, it is the final dome covering

 

[janiak1285]

Is this type of fabric completely opaque or does it allow for lighting to come through. If that's the case perhaps a lighting element underneath would make the dome appear to glow. And with the proper LEDs thy could change the color for season or continuously

It could, depends on exactly what they ordered but you can get this in a translucent design. Not sure if this particular materail is or not, I'd lean towards no.

 

[JenniferS]

From today, 9/17/16:

 

[subvelocity]

Words cannot express how much I am in love with this redesign. It was a garish, but unique, building before and now it will be something so much more. I expect it will look fantastic when it's all completed and it takes it's place in the town center.