Planet Hollywood unveils redesign for Disney Springs

articos

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All taken yesterday the 25th. There was a lot going on but not many workers. The few workers I did see were stringing rope lighting down one of the lattice structures. The project is moving along quickly but there is literally no chance it will be open in September. At the earliest I'd say late November is when it will reopen but it wouldn't suprise me one bit to see it pushed to just before the Christmas rush. View attachment 157556View attachment 157558View attachment 157559View attachment 157561
As you can see they are also relocating all of the exhaust and intake ports that are around the structure. This seems fairly quick and easy until you realize they are doing all of this from a man lift or repelling ropes. View attachment 157562

By the looks of things we should likely start seeing the new sheathing for the building in the next 2-3 weeks if the weather cooperates.
Not technically relocating. As all vents will now be under a covering, they are redoing the exterior ducting. There is no chance of making the initial Sept completion date.
 

Disneykings

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Or December 1, 2016!

We where hoping for end October reservations but like others have said, it doesn't look good for planned opening. This is a favourite place in springs, we loved it last year. Our last USA trip for a good few years which makes it even more disappointing :cry:
 

Next Big Thing

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From Bioreconstruct:
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roj2323

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My initial reaction was tarp ... but it appears to be a very well fitted tarp. It might be the skin but it could be a template piece to check for size accuracy.

I'd guess it's a template for size/accuracy. Edit: I looked at this again and it's clearly not a template. I think this might be the final covering just not secured fully.

BTW I called this a while ago:
I walked by this today and noticed 2 things. The first is they have started painting the steel a pewter grey color which you can see in flyerjab's photo above. The second thing I noticed is the part of the beams closest to the fiberglass exterior is being drilled with holes along the sides about every 8-10 inches. This leads me to believe that the new exterior is simply going to be an overlay and not a replacement for the current exterior shel of the building. I did take a photo from the coca-cola store rooftop so i'll post it shortly.

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Well it has begun but it's really confusing. All of the new steel is round which doesn't lend itself to being easily wrapped in steel sheeting so I'm thinking they are actually going to be installing a fabric overlay over this steel skeleton. Hopefully someone on here can give us some detail on this.

Articos, Mind expanding on why you did not think it would be Fabric? I was of the understanding that you were one of the DS construction workers and had more info than us.
Not fabric, and it's nowhere near done. Don't worry.
 

articos

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I'd guess it's a template for size/accuracy. Edit: I looked at this again and it's clearly not a template. I think this might be the final covering just not secured fully.

BTW I called this a while ago:




Articos, Mind expanding on why you did not think it would be Fabric? I was of the understanding that you were one of the DS construction workers and had more info than us.
I'm not on the Springs project, but I am informed as to what's happening in some parts of this project. I don't have specific knowledge of the product that is the final cladding for PH, but it would not be fabric due to RCID building codes, and the possibility it could tear and cause a hazard in high wind or hurricanes. There are fabric-like sheeting materials that are made for stadium roofs, usually a PVC or polymer that could be used if stretched over the frame, and that might be what this is in the photo. If I see it in person, I could say one way or the other if it's the final covering. The other possibility is this is a layer of waterproofing to go underneath the final covering which could be a hard-shell product. Don't know. If they do go with a stadium roof type covering, the first time it tears they will end up going back and recovering the dome with a more permanent attached product.
 

roj2323

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I'm not on the Springs project, but I am informed as to what's happening in some parts of this project. I don't have specific knowledge of the product that is the final cladding for PH, but it would not be fabric due to RCID building codes, and the possibility it could tear and cause a hazard in high wind or hurricanes. There are fabric-like sheeting materials that are made for stadium roofs, usually a PVC or polymer that could be used if stretched over the frame, and that might be what this is in the photo. If I see it in person, I could say one way or the other if it's the final covering. The other possibility is this is a layer of waterproofing to go underneath the final covering which could be a hard-shell product. Don't know. If they do go with a stadium roof type covering, the first time it tears they will end up going back and recovering the dome with a more permanent attached product.

Ahh ok so we just simply disagree on the definition of fabric but we do agree that this will be a stretched and secured product of some kind.
 

JUFL2019

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Ahh ok so we just simply disagree on the definition of fabric but we do agree that this will be a stretched and secured product of some kind.
Guess you ignored this part "The other possibility is this is a layer of waterproofing to go underneath the final covering which could be a hard-shell product." I would think that this is what that is. Or its a tarp that is covering some work that is going on in that section, If you look at the corners it looks like its attached with bungee cords/chains. It's interesting that's for sure If they do place a stadium style polymer(not fabric) it prob won't last any where near as long as the hope and will end up putting on a hard shell anyway. I'm leaning towards that this is a layer of waterproofing or vapor barrier that will go between the current building and the new metal exterior.
 

roj2323

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Guess you ignored this part "The other possibility is this is a layer of waterproofing to go underneath the final covering which could be a hard-shell product." I would think that this is what that is. Or its a tarp that is covering some work that is going on in that section, If you look at the corners it looks like its attached with bungee cords/chains. It's interesting that's for sure If they do place a stadium style polymer(not fabric) it prob won't last any where near as long as the hope and will end up putting on a hard shell anyway. I'm leaning towards that this is a layer of waterproofing or vapor barrier that will go between the current building and the new metal exterior.

I guess we will find out soon enough.
 

articos

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Ahh ok so we just simply disagree on the definition of fabric but we do agree that this will be a stretched and secured product of some kind.
This is, yes. :) I'm unsure if it will be the final covering, but I'm doubtful it would be.
Isn't the awning that goes all the way around the La Nouba theater some sort of "fabric"?
La Nouba's is a permanent steel cable reinforced sail of multiple awning pieces attached together and tensioned. It's a totally different install. Like @jproff09 says, it's a similar install (to a much larger extent) as the Epcot toll plaza and more like the sails in the central plaza in FW, using different materials. What's happening at PH is different from all of these.
 

WDWtraveler

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Photo update as of Sunday, August 28. Workmen were "stretching" the outer skin today at Plant Hollywood, working from the top down. Difficult to see in this photo, but there are two workmen on each side, partially hidden by the frame. I spoke with a construction supervisor on the ground. This is the final covering, an outer skin made of Teflon-coated fiberglass. It will be stretched tight with the "ribs" showing just enough (see top of skin in photo below).

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brihow

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Photo update as of Sunday, August 28. Workmen were "stretching" the outer skin today at Plant Hollywood, working from the top down. Difficult to see in this photo, but there are two workmen on each side, partially hidden by the frame. I spoke with a construction supervisor on the ground. This is the final covering, an outer skin made of Teflon-coated fiberglass. It will be stretched tight with the "ribs" showing just enough (see top of skin in photo below).

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Thx for the pic! I think the outside of PH is going to look drastically different within the next week, which is exciting. I think this teflan-'fabric' skin is a really cool technique and a creative solution to getting the look they're after. I think it's going to look great.
 

articos

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Photo update as of Sunday, August 28. Workmen were "stretching" the outer skin today at Plant Hollywood, working from the top down. Difficult to see in this photo, but there are two workmen on each side, partially hidden by the frame. I spoke with a construction supervisor on the ground. This is the final covering, an outer skin made of Teflon-coated fiberglass. It will be stretched tight with the "ribs" showing just enough (see top of skin in photo below).

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@roj2323 had it. :) It is the same product they use for stadiums, so it's an interesting budget friendly choice. It looks good now, but let's see how it holds up - after a year, the side you don't see of those roofs can look pretty bad. When we build attractions or restaurants or stores we build for 15-20 year lifespans - this is not a choice that will last that long aesthetically or practically with it being stretched over a frame like it is. I suspect they'll make changes to this decision in a few years or if (when) it comes loose. Thanks for sleuthing, @WDWtraveler.
 
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articos

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I'm still and always have been surprised that they didn't completely reskin PH. I thought it would get a totally new facade, I mean it is. But I never thought they'd build on top of the old one
With the shape, it's entirely custom, so it's an expensive rebuild. I am surprised at how "budget friendly" they're being though. It will end up costing more in the future.
 

MagicHappens1971

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With the shape, it's entirely custom, so it's an expensive rebuild. I am surprised at how "budget friendly" they're being though. It will end up costing more in the future.
It looks very extensive, I don't know much about construction but it seems like it would've been easier to start from scratch.
 

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