PizzeRizzo announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios - Was: Rumor: Pizza Planet/Mama Melrose closing?

Goofyernmost

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Disneyhead'71 said:
Aliens is from the golden age? And isn't Guardians actually already "In da house!"?
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No, it isn't and has always been suspect as to why it was there, but, it did, like Indiana Jones start a new genre that was no longer a "B" science fiction movie. It was mainstream and a money maker and pretty much started it all, both of them. I cannot speak for Guardians because, frankly, I have never seen it. I have no idea what it is about or even the slightest idea about how it can fit into Epcot. I will have to wait and see and let the rest of you speculate.
 
FoozieBear

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wdwgreek said:
I would agree that if done well a History of Disney animation/ Mickey Mouse would fit in an old theater, but Frozen and other IP's having a standard FL dark ride shoe horned into Hollywood Boulevard would be a thematic dissonance of the same level of Frozen in Norway. I guess it works but it doesn't belong there nor does it fit theme of the area or what the area is intended to present. THE GMR is supposed to highlight the greatest products of the golden age of Hollywood and bring us back to what made the Hollywood that never was but always is, what we imagine it. Frozen inside the Grahams Chinese Theater would be jarring.
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The only reason why that would be jarring is because Disney movies usually play across the street at the El Capitan.
 
DinoInstitute

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Disneyhead'71 said:
Frozen literally played across the street at the El Capitain. Secret life of Pets was at the Chinese theater recently.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. IT'S A MOVIE THEATER!
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It's not just about "it's a movie theater!!" that defines if it fits the theme. The GMR is the central thesis attraction at the hub of this park about Hollywood and movies. You really think that Frozen is what the park is about and stands for and should have the central attraction dedicated to it?

Maybe DAK is the park Guardians is best at after all, showing "It's Tough to be a Groot" in the Tree of Life!
Spaceship Earth kind of looks like a snowball, Frozen has snowballs, maybe it should have gone there!!
 
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Disneyhead'71

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IDInstitute said:
It's not just about "it's a movie theater!!" that defines if it fits the theme. The GMR is the central thesis attraction at the hub of this park about Hollywood and movies. You really think that Frozen is what the park is about and stands for and should have the central attraction dedicated to it?

Maybe DAK is the park Guardians is best at after all, showing "It's Tough to be a Groot" in the Tree of Life!
Spaceship Earth kind of looks like a snowball, Frozen has snowballs, maybe it should have gone there!!
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In the old edutainment park about the history of movies and how they are made the GMR is perfect. In the new "step into the movies" park I think a ride based on the early Mickey shorts is perfect.
 
wdwgreek

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Disneyhead'71 said:
In the old edutainment park about the history of movies and how they are made the GMR is perfect. In the new "step into the movies" park I think a ride based on the early Mickey shorts is perfect.
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Especially in a new "step into the movies" park the ride has never made more sense as it does now!
 
Disneyhead'71

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wdwgreek said:
Especially in a new "step into the movies" park the ride has never made more sense as it does now!
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I never said that the GMR wouldn't fit in the new park. Just that I am OK with it being replaced with the Mickey ride.

Seriously, ya'll are going to lecture me about the sanctity of the theme of the hub of DHS? The place where a giant Mickey hat was a pin shop for 15 years? And High School Musical played for a decade before being replaced by, what, Frozen! Right now they are using the building to show Star Wars movies on. So, what exactly is the theme?
 
wdwgreek

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I never said that the GMR wouldn't fit in the new park. Just that I am OK with it being replaced with the Mickey ride.

Seriously, ya'll are going to lecture me about the sanctity of the theme of the hub of DHS? The place where a giant Mickey hat was a pin shop for 15 years? And High School Musical played for a decade before being replaced by, what, Frozen! Right now they are using the building to show Star Wars movies on. So, what exactly is the theme?
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The theme of the front of the park (sunset Blvd and Hollywood Blvd) is the Hollywood that never was but always will be, this theme is reinforced by the streetmasphere performers(albeit they have been gutted) and the music, big band 40's on Sunset, and 30's swing and classic movie scores near the hub. The park is transitioning to a celebration of movies in general, the front of the park is the place we imagine moves came from while the IP lands are the worlds that the movies create. Albeit I'm not happy about the lack of cohesiveness, but DHS has been struggling since the 90's with the theme when the working studio rear end went out the door. I will maintain that Sunset/ Hollywood/ Echo lake were some of the best themed areas of a Disney park when the park débuted. Your point is well taken they have been corrupting the hub with the hat (now gone) and the musical stage show (now gone) but both are gone now refocusing the hubs focal point to the GMR.

Muppets will be a good bench mark for what we need to expect for the integrity and theme of the park moving forward. Pizza Rizzo will be indicative of how cohesive the new theme of the overall park will be.
 
SirLink

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Disneyhead'71 said:
In the old edutainment park about the history of movies and how they are made the GMR is perfect. In the new "step into the movies" park I think a ride based on the early Mickey shorts is perfect.
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Does DHS need more attractions? Yes. Should it really be replacing a ride when capacity is at an all time low? NO. That is the argument to have.

I have further thoughts. But down to Muppets I wonder which Muppet will be replacing the Mamma Melrose name, Mamma Piggy?
 
Disneyhead'71

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SirLink said:
Does DHS need more attractions? Yes. Should it really be replacing a ride when capacity is at an all time low? NO. That is the argument to have.

I have further thoughts. But down to Muppets I wonder which Muppet will be replacing the Mamma Melrose name, Mamma Piggy?
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I hope it's another celebrity chef table service restaurant called "Bork!Bork!"

Dang, @Direwolf27 beat me by a minute.
 
Princess Leia

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Disneyhead'71 said:
I hope it's another celebrity chef table service restaurant called "Bork!Bork!"

Dang, @Direwolf27 beat me by a minute.
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Sped2424

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wdwgreek said:
Marry Popping and Jungle Book both Premièred there, but given the setting of the GMR in Hollywood Boulevard set in the pre war Golden age Hollywood having Freon after in a theater would be as inapprioate as frozen in Norway in my opinion. Why is a modern movie the center of anchor of a land themed around golden age Hollywood in a classic American theater?
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Mary Poppins exists in the attraction. And last I checked Indiana Jones and alien weren't part of Hollywood's golden age.
 
wdwgreek

wdwgreek

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Sped2424 said:
Mary Poppins exists in the attraction. And last I checked Indiana Jones and alien weren't part of Hollywood's golden age.
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Marry Poppins represents the pinnacle of the Disney production system and is considered one of the greatest accomplishments of the golden age Disney studio and the musical genre. Alien revolutionized the sci-fi genre by mixing thriller and horror and Indian Jones defined what it means to be an adventure film. Not golden age films admittedly but classics non the less, and in 1989 when the ride premiered they were recent enough to bridge the past classics to the the modern classics. All three films are also in the spirit of golden age masterpieces. I will admit these break the mold, but still sit very much at home with the idea of the hollywood that was never was and always will be. One thing the new narrator does say now something akin to from Georges Méliès a trip to the moon to George Lucas's star wars hollywood has always been interested in the stars above and here in alien it blens horror and scifi. Its a narrative attempt to justify that gap you rightly point out.

Because this gap exists however does not dismantle the theme of the attraction or the thematic importance it holds at the center piece of the hollywood Boulevard hub.
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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wdwgreek said:
Marry Poppins represents the pinnacle of the Disney production system and is considered one of the greatest accomplishments of the golden age Disney studio and the musical genre. Alien revolutionized the sci-fi genre by mixing thriller and horror and Indian Jones defined what it means to be an adventure film. Not golden age films admittedly but classics non the less, and in 1989 when the ride premiered they were recent enough to bridge the past classics to the the modern classics. All three films are also in the spirit of golden age masterpieces. I will admit these break the mold, but still sit very much at home with the idea of the hollywood that was never was and always will be. One thing the new narrator does say now something akin to from Georges Méliès a trip to the moon to George Lucas's star wars hollywood has always been interested in the stars above and here in alien it blens horror and scifi. Its a narrative attempt to justify that gap you rightly point out.

Because this gap exists however does not dismantle the theme of the attraction or the thematic importance it holds at the center piece of the hollywood Boulevard hub.
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The centerpiece of the hub didn't scream Hollywood's golden age. It screamed pin shop.

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