Pix's Super Happy Fun "Why is my ticket made of paper" thread

Why is having an Annual pass that is paper a big deal to you?

  • Because it looks cheap.

    Votes: 30 27.5%
  • There is no distinction and I want people to notice that I am a passholder.

    Votes: 12 11.0%
  • I have ego issues.

    Votes: 4 3.7%
  • Because I have this fear that the ticket will be worn down to the point where it is unusable.

    Votes: 63 57.8%

  • Total voters
    109

TinkerBell9988

Well-Known Member
My vote goes to those who worry that it will wear out...

My AP never lasts a full year, it already looks worn out and bent in a hundred places by my 6th month :( .

I've always looked forward to a credit-card-looking Annual Pass, nice, bright, and shiny, and one that would last me the whole year.

If they can give us room keys that look like credit cards (and my family gets 4 of those, so I guess money can't be an issue for Disney if my 5 year old brother gets a card . . .), then they could at least give the Annual Passolders sturdy cards. We do pay a substantial amount of money for them anyway, so why not give us the full package? Just the magic of Disney I guess . . .

But the matter of paper or plastic will never keep me from my Parks! :animwink:
 

HennieBogan1966

Account Suspended
So let me get this straight

Now, we're going to complain about the material used to produce a ticket?
Are you kidding me? Surely you jest!!!!

Now I've heard it all.
 

MouseMadness

Well-Known Member
HennieBogan1966 said:
Now, we're going to complain about the material used to produce a ticket?
Are you kidding me? Surely you jest!!!!

Now I've heard it all.

No complaining... discussing. It's a discussion board. Where we discuss. :wave:
 

MouseMadness

Well-Known Member
And?

We can discuss what we please... besides you are making a point to come in here and try to tell us what we should and shouldn't discuss. Who's wasting more time? :rolleyes:
 

General Grizz

New Member
I've never had an AP, but I've had a half-a-year Play 4 Days pass for a couple years (luckily, they didn't wear). I would worry about the AP wearing; I used to assume that they were made of better material, but I guess not.
 

HennieBogan1966

Account Suspended
Actually Mouse

I NEVER said what you could or could not discuss. What I did do was offer my opinion that I think it's silly to obsess over the material used to make a ticket. More power to ya if you want to.

Remember: This IS a discussion, and I was just offering my views on it.
 

HennieBogan1966

Account Suspended
Umm, let it go Mouse. Again, I DIDN'T say what you could or could not discuss. Do me a favor, find the quote where I said those exact words. Guess what my friend? YOU WON'T!!!

One more time just for you. All I was doing was offering my views on this particular subject. Again, just because it happens to NOT coincide with your views, doesn't make my views any less important, nor any MORE important than your own. I'm trying to be civil about it, but you continue to want to nit-pick me about it. Just let it go. It's NOT that big a deal.
 

MouseMadness

Well-Known Member
HennieBogan1966 said:
Umm, let it go Mouse. Again, I DIDN'T say what you could or could not discuss. Do me a favor, find the quote where I said those exact words. Guess what my friend? YOU WON'T!!!

One more time just for you. All I was doing was offering my views on this particular subject. Again, just because it happens to NOT coincide with your views, doesn't make my views any less important, nor any MORE important than your own. I'm trying to be civil about it, but you continue to want to nit-pick me about it. Just let it go. It's NOT that big a deal.

I was gonna let it go, but I don't like being told what to do by random strangers, so I won't... I never said you specifically said anything... by coming in here stating your "views" (not adding anything to our discussion, rather, saying you think it's pointless to disucuss it) you demonstrated your disapproval for our discussion. :) It's plainly obvious to me. You didn't offer a view on the tickets, you offered a view on the people who talk about it. If you think it's silly to discuss, why on earth did you reply? I gladly welcome points of view, if it applies to our discussion, and hell, I've been guilty of a thread drift or two myself. But by saying "Now, we're going to complain about the material used to produce a ticket? Are you kidding me? Surely you jest!!!!
Now I've heard it all." You didn't add to what you think of the tickets, you just basically made fun of us for discussing it. You could've said something like "I don't have a problem with the tickets" and that would've been on subject. Well, Hennie, I am done talking to you, as I well know you are an instigator of trouble, so if you reply again, know it's to make a point to somebody other than me, because you are now on ignore! (first person ever... you special thing, you!)

Oh, and we're not friends. Not sure where that miscommunication came in. Having said that, I believe I've been civil as well. Have I not? If I'm out of line, please let me know.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
ladies and gentlemen.

It's christmas.

Shut up, stop arguing, and drink enough egg nog that you won't be able to type.
 

Pixie Duster

New Member
Original Poster
HennieBogan1966 said:
You're having a "discussion" (as silly as that sounds), about the "material" used to produce tickets.


I know, I know. I made this because I realized there was a pretty good amount of people who really cared about the material of their ticket and I was hoping to gain an understanding of these opinions. I had no clue it would attract this many people. But I guess it is an issue.

P.S. - Please, let's not argue over this, thanks guys. :wave:
 

MouseMadness

Well-Known Member
Last post, and I'll leave the super happy fun thread alone, because I said my bit.

I have no problem with opposing views, I do, however, have a problem with threads being started with the intent of telling people why they are wrong for feeling how they do, or others jumping in and saying we're silly for thinking what we do. So counterproductive. We think what we think *shrugs* what can you do? Hope this somehow helps your research, or whatever it was you wanted from this. Perhaps it was just to clarify why things are the way they are... the world may never know.

Just so we're all clear, I do want a better AP than what you get. I probably won't get it, but there you have it. I would like plastic, yes. I get paper. I love Walt DIsney World either way. :wave: I realize the world goes on, but there was the opinion that was asked for (Sorta... I guess)
 

Pixie Duster

New Member
Original Poster
No, no, no, get back here. Reread my post ok my dear. I said and I quote, "I made this thread... I WAS HOPING TO GAIN AN UNDERSTANDING OF THESE OPINIONS. When on Earth did I ever say you guys were wrong or silly. All I said was that I did not realize this many people saw this as an issue. Please stop interpretting posts beyond what they actually are, thank you.

I am not trying to argue, but I really get upset when people tell me I am doing something wrong like telling people they are wrong when I am not at all.

So please reread my posts, I really don't see how saying what I said could be seen in the way you are describing.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Pixie - I do understand what you are trying to do, but your tone in this thread has indeed been a bit condecending as MouseMaddness said. For instance, your choice of poll options - they sound very negative ("I want people to notice...", "ego", etc.) and although you said you "wanted to understand" you made it sound like you wanted to understand why we wear underpants on our heads. Your repetition of the same few facts to and dismissal of ideas and thoughts in this thread is very clear, especially early on, and you did come across as believeing you have the golden answer to the whole situation and everyone else just didn't "get it". You may have changed your tune later in the thread (a bit...) but that indeed is how you originally came across. Same as with your friend and his "Why don't we close Disney World???" thread - although your message has merits the way you present it needs intense work if you are going to be this liason you seem to want to be.

You seem to have come to a better understanding by the end of the thread, but if you are going to attempt to be an arm of the Disney company as you seem to want to be - posts like you made above to MouseMaddness are not conducive to this "diplomat" title you have given yourself. Additionally, you MUST expect people to hold you to task for what you say and how you say it if you want to be a representative of the Disney company.

This thread did come across, exactly as MouseMaddness said, as a "you are all wrong and here is why", to me as well. I attempted to discuss my feelings (which you ignored and didn't bother to reply to, though you did most everyone else), and you still haven't answered my question as to if you are in charge of this or not, as your posting earlier where you said :

If it seems that Guests would prefer the hard tickets, including the possible hassle of it all, then I guess we will go for it.
- makes it sound like it's your decision to to make. Perhaps in the future, if you wish to be a representative of the Disney company on these boards as you seem to want to be, perhaps a lesson in tactfully dealing with the criticism without attitude is in order. MouseMaddness certainly felt it, as did I, and I know a couple of others who have discussed this thread with me in PM felt the same way.

I would have let it go, but your posting to MouseMaddness showed that you don't see it at all. In another thread you told me to "if you don't like it don't read it" (and that was the only content of your post) - and as I said there, if you want to be this "diplomat" you need to work on your diplomacy, as any criticism of your methods draws a heated reply from you refusing to acknowledge the issue.

Diplomacy means, "Tact and skill in dealing with people," according to dictionary.com . I'm sure you will either ignore this post, or post some heated tirade saying I'm not right (or get one of your friends to - you guys like to tag team so you don't have to directly address the criticism) - but perhaps you should print out this thread and in a few months/years look back at it and maybe you can see why you did indeed (and often do) come across in this manner, and in a less than diplomatic way.

AEfx
 

barnum42

New Member
Pixie Duster said:
When on Earth did I ever say you guys were wrong or silly.
I do my best to be silly in an all to serious world ;) :kiss:

Don't don't fret your head if someone just want's to spark a pointless argument over a trifle of a subject.

Just keep doing that thing you do - most of us love ya' for it :D :wave:
 

Pixie Duster

New Member
Original Poster
Ok AEfx,... I am not perfect.

I repeat I created this thread with the intent to understand why this is an issue for people. Do I personally feel it should be an issue with people? No I do not so of course that is possibly going to shine through because of my own personal bias toward this stance.

In response to your objection to me personally taking interest in the Company by using the term "we"... I am an employee of The Walt Disney Company. I am employed by the same company as the people who make these kinds of decisions. I am also part of the same division. No I personally am not responsible for such decisions, otherwise I would have used the word "I". If I was not part of the company at all then the word "they" would be appopriate. I see no fault in taking a personal interest in the company I work for and feeling as though I am an active participant in the company. By the way, I don't even think the company is investigating this as an issue, this is a personal investigation I am doing merely as a Disney nerd.

As I stated before, yes my tone in the word of electronic communication does need some work. This improvement is going to take time and along the way, case in point, I will slip up and fall back into old habits. I never intend to have a condensending tone, the playful tongue in cheek I approach used initially was lost in translation.

Thank you for keeping me in check. I am working hard to ensure that I learn how to communicate in a tactful, diplomatic manner over the internet.
 

Computer Magic

Well-Known Member
Pixie Duster said:
the playful tongue in cheek I approach used initially was lost in translation.
Some of us understood the "playful tongue in cheek" and did not take you as being condecending. :wave:

and I second barnum42 " Don't don't fret your head if someone just want's to spark a pointless argument over a trifle of a subject. Just keep doing that thing you do - most of us love ya' for it"

And I can't believe you changed your title...
 

HennieBogan1966

Account Suspended
Aren't we all a bit too sensitive?

I believe that maybe we're all being a little too sensitive here. If I make the statement that I believe it's silly to discuss the material used to produce tickets, that, in effect, is my view on the subject. I did NOT say PEOPLE discussing this issue was silly. I said the ISSUE ITSELF was silly. Sometimes you have to READ what people are writing, and NOT take every word as some sort of PERSONAL attack against you, or anyone else. I believe I also said that I didn't care one way or the other what material was used for my part of it.

What DOES happen on these boards ALL the time it seems, is when someone dares to oppose the majority opinion, he or she is INSTANTLY beseiged by responses which border on rude, out of context, and entirely across the line of good manners.

Just because someone responds to an individual and may GOD FORBID, disagree with you, doesn't mean they are attacking YOU. It means they disagree. PERIOD!!!

As we can all see this thread is gaining a life of its own. I'm sure there are those of you out there who PREFER hard tickets in any form. We have kept ours as well. (not aps). They are keepsakes, I guess. Some will say no they don't care. And there MAY be some validity to having all tickets in hard form, for obvious reasons.

What SHOULD happen if this is SUCH a big deal, is for guests to write in or phone in to Disney, and voice their displeasure with this situation.

As for people being taken to task for what they say and how they say it, I have to laugh. If you're going to tell me that there are people out there who are SO affected by something someone says, or how they say it, I just don't know what to say to that. Is it better to be more diplomatic sometimes? Sure. But there is a DISTINCT difference between soft-balling everything you say, so as not to offend anyone or hurt their feelings, and being a solid leader who says what they mean, and then does what they said they would do. (hmm where have I heard that one before?) Anyway, I see nothing wrong with what Pixie has said regarding this thread. Merely trying to gain a perspective of public opinion on this issue was what she was trying to do.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone.
 

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