DisneyParksFan1
Active Member
Does Lasseter have any say over our FYL? Or anything WDW for that matter? Legit question. I've always wondered. If not, then what is his position or relationship with WDW?
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Pixie Hollow vs Wonderland
- Thread starter DisneyWorldDork
- Start date
jt04
Well-Known Member
It appears to me that Glendale has pretty much taken total control of the capital intensive projects. Lasseter has a high ranking role at Imagineering but I believe it is mainly as an advisor. So he has influence but he does not control the division. Anyone have more info?
_Scar
Active Member
I think he has the role to influence but not "direct".... but let's be honest.... the guy probably has a MAJOR influence in the direction a project will take. He has the boy demographic in his backpocket. WDW needs those darn boys. They're picky.
If he does have control, then he sure doesn't have all of it. I have a feeling he would not suggest Pixie Hollow.
1.) It's bad cgi ruining a classic Walt character
2.) He wants quality for WDC (;
Maybe he does have full control and that's why it's not being built.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
Just FYI, PH is one of Lasseter's pet projects. He's the exec producer of the series. If anything, he's part of the reason PH was proposed in the first place.
jt04
Well-Known Member
You do know there is a brand new PH at Disneyland, right?
Just FYI, PH is one of Lasseter's pet projects. He's the exec producer of the series. If anything, he's part of the reason PH was proposed in the first place.
Not suprised. The entire pixie franchise is a no brainer (not that I consider Lasseter brainless)and as I've said before it is a genre that CAN'T go out of style. It is something buried deep in the human psyche. The idea of these miniature magical worlds will always enthrall people especially children. It can be seen in children's fascination with butterfles and ant farms and the such.
When folks here hate on the idea of Disney using the idea as a franchise they are only exposing their own lack of empathetic qualities but also serious narrow-mindedness. Or for some, just plain blatent selfishness. To parapharase the PH haters, 'Me, me, me. Everything is about me'.
Demeter Tess
Well-Known Member
Out of blatant curiosity, have you WATCHED these movies? They're extremely well done for straight-to-video fare. I can't speak for the quality of the CG, but it's much more visually appealing than, say, any other Disney sequel. The creators have tried to remain true to the look and feel of Neverland as established in Peter Pan without meddling with any of its characters. (Fun Fact: The original director - who, by all accounts, was a very inept woman - wanted to incorporate key characters from the original Peter Pan movie. Lasseter stepped in and redirected the story so as to avoid any messy crossovers. Good form, John, good form!) Beyond all of this, I'm extremely taken by their treatment of Tinker Bell's character. I spent the first 25 years of my life with a definite dislike for the way she was marketed (the "diva" attitude didn't do it for me, nor did I really think it represented her character well), then along came the Disney Fairies franchise with a characterization of Tink that I could relate to: the plucky perfectionist who is often a bit too self-centered and strong-willed in her work to realize she's ultimately done more harm than good. I will absolutely concede that this is not a terrificly faithful adaptation of the original character, but who am I kidding? It made her a likable character, capable of great emotional growth, and infinitely more suited for the helm of a new franchise. And thus Tink went from one of my least favourite Disney characters to my very favourite.
Yes, I do.
imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
Except that's really nothing more than a small alcove yet tastefully done. Its not deserving of its own land.
I say neither Wonderland or Pixie Hollow. I say DL'S TOON TOWN!!!!!!!:fork:
Thrill
Well-Known Member
Myself, I see this as the problem. Disney shouldn't be releasing a film if they believe it won't do well. If it's not good enough for theaters, it shouldn't be good enough for DVD.
JuicyyStarr77
New Member
Wonderland..
Alice in Wonderland is a classic story, and will be around for many more years, whereas the Tinkerbell movies will probably not be around for as long. Plus many more people seem more familiar with all the characters from Alice and Wonderland, especially since Tim Burton's version just came out.
Alice in Wonderland is a classic story, and will be around for many more years, whereas the Tinkerbell movies will probably not be around for as long. Plus many more people seem more familiar with all the characters from Alice and Wonderland, especially since Tim Burton's version just came out.
JuicyyStarr77
New Member
I say neither Wonderland or Pixie Hollow. I say DL'S TOON TOWN!!!!!!!:fork:[/QUOTE]
I agree! I would love to not only have ToonTown stay, but get refurbished into DL's version!
I agree! I would love to not only have ToonTown stay, but get refurbished into DL's version!
hpyhnt 1000
Well-Known Member
This isn't even a competition; everything from the theming to rides to demographics makes Wonderland the easy winner.
Unfortunately, this is true.
EDIT: Wonderland the Disney version, not Tim Burton's.
Unfortunately, this is true.
EDIT: Wonderland the Disney version, not Tim Burton's.
Dizmentia
Member
I still cannot believe the Barnstormer is turning into a clown coaster (Casey Jr. would have been better, or Pink Elephants on Parade). The Cheshire Cat theme mentioned would have been great, along with a Wonderland area. It would seem like a logical choice, since the Cheshire Cat is such a huge merchandising character. The Wonderland characters are also featured in the newest Walt Disney World commercials.
A Neverland would work well, too. The Barnstormer could become a Crocodile coaster.
A Neverland would work well, too. The Barnstormer could become a Crocodile coaster.
DisneyExplorer
Member
I'd love to see something developed in this area that appeals to the whole family (dark ride, BTMR-style coaster, water ride, etc). Meet and greets are nice, but I feel like they occupy too much space (at least in these design plans). Why do these massive sets need to be constructed to meet and greet with a few characters? Aladdin and friends seemed fine standing near their magic carpets.
More importantly though, I don't understand why any new addition needs to have its own mini-land. Why a whole area devoted to Pixie Hollow, Dumbo/Circus, Wonderland, etc? Beauty and the Beast offers multiple services (Belle meet and greet, restaurant, tavern, scenery, etc) so I understand why it's being built as a mini-land. Little Mermaid, on the other hand, is one attraction and is being built that way. A compact area of land with a beautiful facade. Can't they do something like that in the land proposed for Pixie Hollow (maybe two attractions each themed to two different original concepts and/or films) instead of choosing one film and devoting a whole area to it?
More importantly though, I don't understand why any new addition needs to have its own mini-land. Why a whole area devoted to Pixie Hollow, Dumbo/Circus, Wonderland, etc? Beauty and the Beast offers multiple services (Belle meet and greet, restaurant, tavern, scenery, etc) so I understand why it's being built as a mini-land. Little Mermaid, on the other hand, is one attraction and is being built that way. A compact area of land with a beautiful facade. Can't they do something like that in the land proposed for Pixie Hollow (maybe two attractions each themed to two different original concepts and/or films) instead of choosing one film and devoting a whole area to it?
lebeau
Well-Known Member
You have completely missed the point. :brick:
lebeau
Well-Known Member
Burton's Alice will be a distant memory long before the Fairies franchise dries up.
cheezbat
Well-Known Member
Exactly. BURTON'S ALICE....not the overall concept or the CLASSIC version of Alice in Wonderland. I give Tink and Friends maybe 5 years before they too go the way of so many other Disney franchises.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
1. I'll take that bet. The DTV releases are already scheduled out several years from now.
2. Burton's Alice is currently hot. Disney's Alice has been more or less culturally irrelevant outside of the parks for a long, long time.
Edit: One thing I find fascinating is all of the people predicting that the Fairies franchise will fade from memory soon. What on earth are people basing this on? After researching the subject, I see no facts that support the idea. The franchise is in a state of growth, not decline. But if anyone has any facts that support an alternate view, please share them.