Rumor Pixar's Coco coming to the Mexico Pavilion

[RandomPrincess]

So I was talking to my kids about all the new stuff coming to WDW and a told them there was a rumor of Coco coming to Epcot and taking over the Three Cabarellos ride. My 8 year old daughter looked and me and said "Oh great another redo!" and she rolled her eyes so big I thought they would fall out of her head. I laughed so hard. She would really feel at home with some of the people around these boards.

 

[marni1971]

So what is the current mindset of management for them possibly not going ahead with the Coco overhaul? It seems like a synergistic no brainer (knowing today’s leadership). @marni1971

I’ve no idea. Well, there is the cost, but it’s peanuts.

 

[britain]

I’ve no idea. Well, there is the cost, but it’s peanuts.

I wonder if there was something about the project that Lasseter was pushing and now that he’s kind of out, some of the Imagineers that saw things differently are advancing their vision. Still a Coco makeover, but different creative direction.

 

[larryz]

I’ve no idea. Well, there is the cost, but it’s peanuts.

Charlie Brown attraction, confirmed!

 

[bclane]

Charlie Brown attraction, confirmed!

Dangit! You beat me to it.

 

[brb1006]

Charlie Brown attraction, confirmed!

Here's a sneak peek.

 

[jmuboy]

Iffy. Personally I thought it was virtually a done deal.

Seems like WDC and TDO are dialing back the planned / rumored EPCOT Redo in large parts.

 

[disneyC97]

My guess is Coco merchandise isn’t selling well in general.

 

[Lets Respect]

I bet the merchandise potential isn't there. It also didn't fare well through the holidays at the domestic box office, now it's running 15% behind Moana (started at 7% behind)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Seems like WDC and TDO are dialing back the planned / rumored EPCOT Redo in large parts.

...that's the thing about "confirmed" rumors...it's like betting against the house

 

[marni1971]

...that's the thing about "confirmed" rumors...it's like betting against the house

It’s not dead yet. Three months ago it was virtually guaranteed. Now, not as much.

I’m getting the feeling costs are being reassessed. Gran Fiesta is relatively new, and there’s far more in the park that needs help.

It also doesn’t help Guardians is a bit of a money pit.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I'm fine with Gran Fiesta staying as is if something else gets done first. The money would be better spent on a new 3-D attraction for the Magic Eye Theater IMO (that can be used at DLR & DLP too).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s not dead yet. Three months ago it was virtually guaranteed. Now, not as much.

I’m getting the feeling costs are being reassessed. Gran Fiesta is relatively new, and there’s far more in the park that needs help.

It also doesn’t help Guardians is a bit of a money pit.

And I won't beat you up over it...but that's the "plausible deniability" thing that makes all insider tips suspect.

Here's my question: based on wdw operational pattern, would it make sense for them to spend a dime - even on a cheap overlay - when longterm IP cross sell potential hasnt been proven?

Coco is a great movie...acclaimed and sure Oscar winner...but it's not the kinda "bank" movie they like to put on rides. Whether we think that's wise or not.

We'll see if this one is resurrected.

 

[NearTheEars]

My guess is Coco merchandise isn’t selling well in general.

My wife and I would love to buy some, but there just isn’t that much available. It’s almost nonexistent at all of the big box stores around us, and even the Mexico pavilion only offers a couple of plush and character figure sets.

 

[DisneyFan18]

@marni1971, do you know what this is for?

(Photos via Bioreconstruct)

 

[smile]

And I won't beat you up over it...but that's the "plausible deniability" thing that makes all insider tips suspect.

putting that in quotes is apt - bit of a stretch...
we're all aware of the fluidity of these things and use of that term infers things that martin doesn't deserve; others, of course, and we know who they are.

also prob not the best place to blanketly condemn conjecture, either

We'll see if this one is resurrected.

even if coco isn't slotted now, hard to imagine it would drift too far from long-term plans for the pavilion.
a logical fit, an attachable ip, and widely accepted by those exposed... bing-bang-boom

 

[marni1971]

@marni1971, do you know what this is for?

(Photos via Bioreconstruct)

In the pavilion lobby right? This area was green-lit for movie tie ins before the movie was released. I guess it’s another justification for the magical shackle.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

putting that in quotes is apt - bit of a stretch...
we're all aware of the fluidity of these things and use of that term infers things that martin doesn't deserve; others, of course, and we know who they are.

also prob not the best place to blanketly condemn conjecture, either



even if coco isn't slotted now, hard to imagine it would drift too far from long-term plans for the pavilion.
a logical fit, an attachable ip, and widely accepted by those exposed... bing-bang-boom

I'm specifically NOT blaming him for doing something screwy...you missed that part...

...however considering that a movie released on 11/19/17 has already been reported to be "greenlit" or "all but certain" and now on 1/06/18 is now "on hold" does lead credence to a caution approach.

1. Since when does wdw move that fast? I can think of 2 sorta examples - stretching the criteria a lot - no more.
2. Imagineering thinks EVERYTHING is a go...they're dreamers...it's what they do. We wouldn't have it any other way. But the accountants have other ideas. It is what it is. Small scale capex doesn't/hasn't brought in new clientele for about 20 years...so from that perspective a coco overlay is just a way to drag the stock down. As part of a bigger package? - then you're talking.

We'll see...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In the pavilion lobby right? This area was green-lit for movie tie ins before the movie was released. I guess it’s another justification for the magical shackle.

Magical shackle...now that's good

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think Pandora/Avatarland is just proof that WDW mangement are still willing to take risk (even if the merch hasn't been proven to sell). They didn't even own Avatar, and yet they went out of their way to make this land. (And spend what? 1 billion dollars for it) A refurb/theme change of the Mexican ride at Epcot is puny to that.

What was the historical context and construction history of avatarland?

I respect your opinion...but I disagree about it being "bold"