Pirates refurb dates released

[George Lucas on a Bench]

God you people overthinking a boat ride past robotic mannequins...

 

[TROR]

Some critics of the ride’s new updates — and there are several — have asserted that pirates shouldn’t be recast as more politically correct than they were. But if staying true to reality were part of the theme, then the pirates would have to be recast as multicultural (can’t you just hear Sean Hannity now?), children would also need to be auctioned as slave labor and at least half the characters would be stricken with consumption.

This.

But there is a Chinese and an Arab pirate in the ride. They're already multicultural!

God you people overthinking a boat ride past robotic mannequins...

It's art, George.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Some critics of the ride’s new updates — and there are several — have asserted that pirates shouldn’t be recast as more politically correct than they were. But if staying true to reality were part of the theme, then the pirates would have to be recast as multicultural (can’t you just hear Sean Hannity now?), children would also need to be auctioned as slave labor and at least half the characters would be stricken with consumption.

This.

I've never been a fan of the "It's not historically accurate" complaint about changing the scene. There are so many better reasons to not be happy about the new auction scene- poor dialogue, different artistic style of Redd, loss of a piece of Disneyland history, etc. using historically accurate as an excuse is one of the weaker arguments some could make.

Which, disappointingly, is the one this reporter focused on.

 

[SuddenStorm]

God you people overthinking a boat ride past robotic mannequins...

The real George likely says the same thing to defend the many revisions he's made to the Star Wars films.

God you people are overthinking a children's movie with actors, puppets, and model spaceships.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Indeed. They're Saturday matinee popcorn space movies for children.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Make no mistake...the author's real intent is to make anyone who enjoyed or had no problem with the original scene feel all the shame she can muster.

 

[mickEblu]

I've never been a fan of the "It's not historically accurate" complaint about changing the scene. There are so many better reasons to not be happy about the new auction scene- poor dialogue, different artistic style of Redd, loss of a piece of Disneyland history, etc. using historically accurate as an excuse is one of the weaker arguments some could make.

Which, disappointingly, is the one this reporter focused on.

Right. On a long list of reasons I hate the auction change... that reason isn’t even on my list.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Make no mistake...the author's real intent is to make anyone who enjoyed or had no problem with the original scene feel all the shame she can muster.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Maybe that’s just how I read it, but it seems like she views anyone who is against this change as inherently being on the “wrong side of history” and should take a long hard look at their lives. I know your views on it already and I respect them. But her bias couldn’t have any shown more if she titled the article, “The redhead sex slave is gone and feminists can now return to Disneyland and feel comfortable.”

 

[shortstop]

I’m still waiting for a good explanation of why a female pirate is a strong role model for young girls. “Look, girls, you too can extort, pilfer, maraud, embezzle, and highjack! Getting drunk off rum and burning up the town isn’t just for men!”
I’m not opposed to having there be female pirates, I’m just very confused by the PR spin of the redhead being an empowered female.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

I’m still waiting for a good explanation of why a female pirate is a strong role model for young girls. “Look, girls, you too can extort, pilfer, maraud, embezzle, and highjack! Getting drunk off rum and burning up the town isn’t just for men!”
I’m not opposed to having there be female pirates, I’m just very confused by the PR spin of the redhead being an empowered female.

According to Disney, pirates are the good guys.

 

[shortstop]

According to Disney, pirates are the good guys.

Right, that’s why they would never do bad things like auction off brides.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Right, that’s why they would never do bad things like auction off brides.

Not when there are chickens to be had!

 

[shortstop]

Not when there are chickens to be had!

Send the hens to Davey Jones you silly goose, it’s the RUM they’re after! Because pirates like rum! Ha!

 

[Kram Sacul]

A poorly written LA Times article by a clueless shill. Didn’t we already have one of these before the ride re-opened?

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Maybe that’s just how I read it, but it seems like she views anyone who is against this change as inherently being on the “wrong side of history” and should take a long hard look at their lives. I know your views on it already and I respect them. But her bias couldn’t have any shown more if she titled the article, “The redhead sex slave is gone and feminists can now return to Disneyland and feel comfortable.”

maraud, embezzle, and highjack! Getting drunk off rum and burning up the town isn’t just for men!”
I’m not opposed to having there be female pirates, I’m just very confused by the PR spin of the redhead being an empowered female.

According to Disney, pirates are the good guys.

Right, that’s why they would never do bad things like auction off brides.

I could be wrong, but methinks you all might be reading way too much into the article.

 

[TROR]

That articles stupid. Just more fake news by the MSM.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Nothing the pirates of the Caribbean do is redeemable, yet they sing a jolly song and inspire joy from Disney theme park guests. These are robots that murder, steal, try to intoxicate cats and burn a town. Might as well just change the whole thing. Make it so the conquistadors fire off some warning shots thinking these "pirates" are a threat, but then the Mayor gives Barbosa the key to the city, they have an art exhibition and then everyone sings a Whoville-style song of peace.

 

[shortstop]

I could be wrong, but methinks you all might be reading way too much into the article.

It’s not just that specific article. It’s Disney’s own PR, coupled with articles and online opinions mirroring that article.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

It’s not just that specific article. It’s Disney’s own PR, coupled with articles and online opinions mirroring that article.

Meh. The article acknowledges that the new scene is lacking, so there's that.

As a fan I do empathize with people who are bothered, but it's another one of those very specific Disneyland nerd things, like the unaligned Club 33 window or the widening of the Alice ramp, that I often end up shrugging over because I don't care that much and therefore can't really relate to the outrage. Disney removed something from PoTC that was midly offensive to me, and as a result I'm OK with what they've done. Is it amazing? No, but it's perfectly fine and I bet it will largely go unnoticed by the majority of visitors, especially future generations.

Frankly I'm having a much more negative reaction to the gigantic red scream tubes on the Incredicoaster than I am to any aspect of the PoTC auction scene update. Ugh. Go figure. Everyone's experience at Disneyland is personal I guess.