Pic of Monorail Lime's 4-pole configuration test layout

DonaldDoleWhip

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the pic!

I actually REALLY don't like the new layout. It makes me think of the monorail-style-things at Orlando International Airport.

But I guess if it means shorter waits...
 

Amber

6+4+3=2
Premium Member
My thought was about the strollers as well. In a car with the thing in the middle, most of the time the strollers would get parked between the center thing and the seat, making it pretty crammed on that side. This should make maneuvering around the stroller much easier.
 

MissM

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Original Poster
Dang it! I really wanted this picture :lookaroun
I added it after having Screamscape steal my image once and not even have the decency to credit where they got it from.
:fork:

To the rest - you're welcome! It was pure luck let me tell you. :D Oh and the photo does look a little skewed from the in-person reality, but it does appear to be roomier when you're in the actual car. On the way back to the TTC last night, a double-wide couldn't fit in between the center bar and the seats without a LOT of struggle, so I think this new configuration is supposed to help with that. Give a "row" where strollers can go inbetween.
-m
 

JROK

Member
So after a long day at the parks, I get onto a monorail and can't grab a seat, so instead of leaning against the small padded bench/divider, I have to stand and hold on to a pole, all so an extra two people can get on the monorail.

I don't like it :hurl:
 

Fantasia freak

New Member
The new configuration is to help wheelchairs get on and off easier. The old way had the middle section offset in the middle to cars so wheelchairs could fit in only those two cars. the new setup is to allow wheelchairs easier access because they can go straight into the car between the four poles instaed of having to come in at an akward angle. I have seen the rendering of it on our bullitin board at TTC. it was done for wheelchairs.
 

Scar Junior

Active Member
Note: This image may NOT be used on any other site without PRIOR permission first. i.e. Don't save it or take it and post it elsewhere on the web. All rights reserved. Thank you.

First off... thanks for sharing, it did help me get a sense of what the change was. Second... even if you had a copyright on the image, the term "All rights reserved" is an empty threat (legally). I'm not going to use the image, but I just thought I'd let you know if someone did take it there could be no repercussions.

Aesthetically, I like the original configuration better. However, this does seem like a much more effective use of space, which translates into shorter wait times for the monorail. Probably a good decision overall.

I agree. I wonder if it would help the aesthetics if the poles were the same color as the monorail's color... or would that ruin the 'futuristic' connotations?
 

lpet11984

Well-Known Member
It makes me think of the monorail-style-things at Orlando International Airport.

This is what I was afraid of, and you're right- it looks a lot like those monorail/trams at MCO.

But as was also mentioned, if it means shorter waits then I'm all for it (so long as I'm not one of the ones that has to stand ;) )
 

SpongeScott

Well-Known Member
First off... thanks for sharing, it did help me get a sense of what the change was. Second... even if you had a copyright on the image, the term "All rights reserved" is an empty threat (legally). I'm not going to use the image, but I just thought I'd let you know if someone did take it there could be no repercussions.
:eek:

*copies picture and distributes it all over the internet*

:lookaroun
 

Horizons78

Grade "A" Funny...
Don't forget though, you can easily put a row of people right down the middle. Call it 4 people, and thats an extra 48 people per train. Quite a big difference.

And if we multiply those 48 people by say a 150 lb. average you have an additional 7200 pounds.

That's a bit more than 3.5 tons.

Stupid question, but seeing as how we have seen reckless disregard for engineering specifications before - (i.e. Rocket Rods), I'm wondering what the impact of that weight would be from a maintenance standpoint. Certainly from a physics vantage point you are going to have more mass to start and stop which should have some percentage of increase in wear and tear.

I'm not saying it would ruin the trains, but I would certainly think that the consumable maintenance items would have a shorter lifespan.

Food for thought.......
 

PKD

Active Member
The new configuration is to help wheelchairs get on and off easier. The old way had the middle section offset in the middle to cars so wheelchairs could fit in only those two cars. the new setup is to allow wheelchairs easier access because they can go straight into the car between the four poles instaed of having to come in at an akward angle. I have seen the rendering of it on our bullitin board at TTC. it was done for wheelchairs.

I see what you are saying.. BUT riddle me this batman.. To get a wheel chair into the cabs, the CM's bring out a ramp. So now are you going to have more CM's bringing out more ramps to each cab so a wheel chair can enter?? That doesn't make any since.

The nice thing about having the wheel chair cabs in the center was to "make sure" that wheel chairs got on without other guest getting in their way. As well as it cut down on time for load/unload since it was in one location vs having to put a ramp on several cabs.
 

tombnorton

New Member
wheelchairs

The last poster made a good point about the wheelchair ramps/wheelchair cars, and the ability for wheelchair guests to ride without being "thrown in" with the normal crowd.

however, it is still possible to maintain the wheelchair accessible cars as they have them now--just because all of the cars have this ne configuration does not mean that all of them are meant to accommodate wheelchairs. I'm sure that there wont be more cast members bringing out more wheelchair ramps than normal for this new car design.

on a personal note, I have been waiting for more wheelchair-accessible monorail cars for a few years now. We usually take my two wheelchair-using grandparents to Disney with us--neither of whom can walk on their own. It has always been a project to get both of the wheelchairs on the monorail, especially if it's busy. This new design looks very accomodating
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Second... even if you had a copyright on the image, the term "All rights reserved" is an empty threat (legally). I'm not going to use the image, but I just thought I'd let you know if someone did take it there could be no repercussions.
The "All Rights Reserved" may not have legit punch anymore (it did until 2000 and I've been publishing images since long before then, so it's stuck out of habit along with almost everyone else who still uses it habitually as a statement that "I know I have rights and I'm reminding you of the same") the "Copyright 2007 M. Turner" DOES have the FULL WEIGHT of legal rights behind it and grants me legal protection and control over my images.

In the end, it boils again down to the fact that I've shared news here on WDWMagic and then later seen my image stolen without my permission on other quasi Disney "news" sites. (And I know I'm not the only one as I've seen others state in their posts that the photos are for usage on this site only.)
-m
 

OmegaKnight

New Member
Part of the reasoning behind the new handrail configuration are double-wide strollers. On the old setup, they have to go in spots that are reserved for wheelchair guests and their parties. Now, because of this new setup, they can go anywhere on the train. We have been randomly asking guests what they think of the new setup and the result is overwhelmingly positive. Also, not seen in the pictures but new in the cars is an overhead handrail that hangs from the ceiling of the train.
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
Hmmm... Very Tokyo Disneyland-esque...

I tend to like to stand on the Monorail anyway... to get a better view out of the windows... that is, when I can't snag the front driver's cabin...
 

Champion

New Member
And if we multiply those 48 people by say a 150 lb. average you have an additional 7200 pounds.

That's a bit more than 3.5 tons.

Stupid question, but seeing as how we have seen reckless disregard for engineering specifications before - (i.e. Rocket Rods), I'm wondering what the impact of that weight would be from a maintenance standpoint. Certainly from a physics vantage point you are going to have more mass to start and stop which should have some percentage of increase in wear and tear.

I'm not saying it would ruin the trains, but I would certainly think that the consumable maintenance items would have a shorter lifespan.

Food for thought.......

I'm confident that the trains and track structure is rated far higher than what would constitute a full load.
 

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