Lucky
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I wonder how Granny will like Mission Space Orange.
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PHOTOS - Inside the interactive indoor queue set to open in July at Dumbo
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I wonder how Granny will like Mission Space Orange.
Skipper Dan
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All I can say (even though I wanna say more) is... it's gonna get loud in there.
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Horizons1
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Don't defend mediocrity. You know why people on here had such high expectations? Because Disney billed this as being a revolutionary step in building queues. They sold everyone how this would be a great new breakthrough in the design of queues and that got everyone excited. Well, as we can see, it's bait and switch. This is nothing spectacular. It's a mall playground while holding a restaurant pager. People expect so much because this is Disney. Disney used to be about creating NEW and GROUNDBREAKING things. But whoever is running WDW has lost sight of that now. Somewhere soon there needs to be some sort of shakeup.
DznyRktekt
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Well said, and great avatar.
nepalostparks
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Can you link to where Disney billed the interactive area as being "revolutionary" or how it would be a "breakthrough in the design of queues"?
I did a little digging back through the Disney Parks blog, and here's what I found since March 3, 2010 on the subject:
3/3/2010: "You’ll be invited to take part in a series of interactive experiences inside an air-conditioned three-ring circus tent."
1/18/2011: "While you wait to board this Fantasyland favorite, you’ll have a chance to join the circus and step inside the Big Top for fun-filled interactive experiences for kids of all ages."
8/19/2011: "Dumbo The Flying Elephant, complete with an interactive queue under the Big Top and not one but two Dumbo attractions."
To me, it seems that they are opening an air-conditioned interactive queue. Since it was announced, there has been plenty of back-seat imagineering on different blogs and forums, where perhaps expectations were set higher than what the reality is. But that doesn't mean Disney is responsible for those expectations.
When it opens, I'll be happy to take a run up and see what it looks like, and make a decision at that point as to how it looks in person. I find it tough to fairly judge something new based on several pictures and a short video.
ChristianG
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Don't really like it, it seems really cluttered. But at least it's not in the way of anything.
orky8
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Two things - First, what freaking malls do you guys go to, because my mall has nothing even remotely like this. Nor do our McDonalds.
Second. It is still a groundbreaking idea. Instead of waiting in a switchback line, you wait in a holding pen where you roam freely. Granted, this concept has been used for ages at restaurants, but as far as rides go, is a rather unique concept.
If this was the queue for Haunted Mansion or Pirates, I'd totally agree with you, but this is for Dumbo. A kids ride. It would be really wierd if the queue was better than the ride, because then there would have to a queue, for the queue, and everyone would skip the ride. This is the LINE not the ATTRACTION, and as lines go, for a kids ride, it is pretty awesome.
If they had just put in to the two spinners with a standard switchback queue (without every saying they'd do more), we'd all be happy with what they did, because the water, lighting, etc is much better the the previous Dumbo, and the double capacity would reduce the wait.
So compared to something we'd have been happy with, they've done much more by giving us a queue with (at least) something different to look at and the freedom to move instead of stand there. That's got to be an improvement. And I would say that a queue with freedom to stand, sit, walk, or play is indeed groundbreaking. Not in the individual elements, but in the use of them in a queue for a theme park ride.
Finally, I see from the some of the quotes that people have flagged why some were expecting more. I hadn't expected more myself, but I do see now how some could have been expecting more. The criticism that Disney isn't living up to what they promised may be fair in that light.
bearboysnc
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No one has mentioned (or at least as I skimmed the hate posts) that there is a water playground outside the train station, and still an unknown sideshow being installed under the second rebuilt circus tents.
Did people think this was going to be a funhouse? a dark ride?
It's a distraction for parents with squirming kids.
Period.
Did people think this was going to be a funhouse? a dark ride?
It's a distraction for parents with squirming kids.
Period.
wsmith1978
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I usually love just about everything that's done in the parks, and can look forward to seeing it on my next trip. I'm not a big complainer. In fact, I often overlook things that might be less than stellar because I am such a fan that I want to believe Disney World is perfect. And I know this i just a ride's queue, it's not an attraction in and of itself, but I do have to say I am disappointed in this. It reminds me of a McDonald's Playland, and I feel like they could have done so much more. That being said, it doesn't effect me at all, because I am not a child, and don't have children, so I won't be taking part in this experience... but it's just not up to par.
Thanks for digging through the Disney blog entries. I'm pretty sure I read all of those at the time they were posted, and I never developed the impression that Disney was hyping this up as some kind of breakthrough queue.
Rather, based on "interactive" queues we've already seen, my expectations were even lower than they probably should have been, given what we're getting. I seriously expected just a couple of video monitors, where kids could jump or point or do something to influence the action onscreen.
And really, why would anyone reasonably expect anything so revolutionary in this context? It's just a children's spinner (or two now), albeit a well-loved one. If Disney really were to create an amazing, next-generation queue, they'd logically append it to the next cutting edge E-ticket, not an attraction of this modest scope, which isn't even technically "new."
As it is, I'm pretty neutral toward what we've been shown. It'll probably be fine for the primary age group of the ride, but I do wonder how loud and crowded it'll get. And if your pager goes off and your children are climbing around somewhere in the tent out of your direct line of sight, how long will it take to find them and bring them to the queue proper? Will delays like that impede loading -- maybe even ultimately negate any efficiencies created by having the "virtual" queue?
I assume (hope, at least) that the Imagineers took logistics like that into consideration -- although from the relatively recent example of the Tigger bounce pads, it does appear that they're not always able to account for everything where actual human interaction is concerned. However, I'm fine waiting to see how everything turns out once the Big Top is actually opened.
Just Plain Mark
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Does it seem like they built an interactive queue? From what I've seen, its not interactive in even the sense of Soarin', much less in the sense of Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom. Disney didn't say "ground breaking" but they did say "interactive" and I don't see the interactive.
As for the reason they would spend time and money to create an impressive queue set up in a spinner: it enhances the guest experience. This (enhanced guest experience) is same reason that Universal spent time and money creating special effects for a 5 min wand selection show. People were already going to buy wands, but now kids feel a heightened sense of realism. Similarly, people are going to ride Dumbo, but an enhanced queue (more than just an airconditioned play area) would have rendered this attraction as something much more.
Finally, I think people can equally feel that what we've seen is both a disappointment based on Disney's claims and an improvement over the old Dumbo set up. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
bubbles1812
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Agreed. It never made that much sense to me that they would put so much into a queue for what is essentially, a toddler's ride. Why spend oodles and oodles of money for a group that can't fully appreciate it?
And to the Just Plain Mark who said it's not interactive...what does interactive mean to you? Did you not see the video? Kids were running around playing on structures (and the one adult)...that's pretty darn interactive to me...
nepalostparks
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It may not live up to your expectations, but certainly allowing guests to climb, slide, jump, play, etc is indeed interactive as opposed to standing in a switchback queue.
One could argue it is in fact more interactive than Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom... all you do there is hold up cards in front of a screen.
How interactive it is can be interpreted by people differently, but it is interactive.
DznyRktekt
Well-Known Member
The same reason WDW of old would put forth the effort of placing the Starjets/ Astro Orbiter atop a building resulting in the investment in an elevator to reach them. It adds to the experience and the excitement of uniqueness... for evryone.
Just Plain Mark
New Member
Interactive means an action and reaction as in the queues for both Pooh and the Haunted Mansion. A slide does not "interact" with a child. The slide is the same whether the kid goes down it or just stares at it.
And if you don't think toddlers can appreciate interactivity than you may not be familiar with the leapfrog or other similar products for toddlers (including non electronic interactive toddler) that are massively popular.
nepalostparks
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If you watch the video again, when the child steps on the "trampoline" pad, it flashes. So by your narrow definition, the Dumbo indoor queue does indeed include at least one interactive element.
Horizons1
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I guess you could argue that, but that's a really lame interactive element. And I use the word interactive lightly. People are going to expect different things, so whatever. It's not like it really matters. But I would have preferred Disney used the word playground instead of interactive elements.