Personal Pod Transport Arriving Soon?

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
Using similar calculations, and assuming 75,000 people per day visit the 4 Disney parks, and assuming only $10.00 per day cost, then that's $750,000 per day they would take in, divided by 2 billion means only 7 years to recoup the cost. And that's not counting the savings from bus maintenance or fuel. (I'm not counting any savings from eliminating bus drivers because there will have to be CMs at each station, so there may not be any savings from personnel.)

You're forgetting one tidbit of information. Not everybody pays $10.00 to park. Take the average family (5-4 people) in a carload. Plus, don't forget...people that are staying in a Disney resort...don't pay for parking or transportation.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
If this were to ever be built in WDW, they would not be able to use the European models of this system as was shown in this link http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/10/personal-pod--1.html

Disney would need to create, or have a contractor create, their own vehicles that are much, much larger. Let's face it, many of the people that visit WDW now are vastly larger than the slender and fit models shown sitting in these pod cars. This Swedish guy sitting in the tidy little pod looks like he is about 6 foot tall and 175 pounds and doesn't spend his leisure time driving around a theme park in an electric cart eating churros and slurping down bottles of Coke. And even he doesn't have much extra hip room here.
http://blog.wired.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/15/podcar02.jpg

A WDW system is going to need to have vehicles that are much larger than these European pods to handle not just the plus-size theme park passengers, but also their double wide strollers and hand bags and such that people take to a park with them.

There would need to be a much larger vehicle created to accomodate WDW visitors of all shapes and sizes. :eek:
 

jt04

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Original Poster
If this were to ever be built in WDW, they would not be able to use the European models of this system as was shown in this link http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/10/personal-pod--1.html

Disney would need to create, or have a contractor create, their own vehicles that are much, much larger. Let's face it, many of the people that visit WDW now are vastly larger than the slender and fit models shown sitting in these pod cars. This Swedish guy sitting in the tidy little pod looks like he is about 6 foot tall and 175 pounds and doesn't spend his leisure time driving around a theme park in an electric cart eating churros and slurping down bottles of Coke. And even he doesn't have much extra hip room here.
http://blog.wired.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/15/podcar02.jpg

A WDW system is going to need to have vehicles that are much larger than these European pods to handle not just the plus-size theme park passengers, but also their double wide strollers and hand bags and such that people take to a park with them.

There would need to be a much larger vehicle created to accomodate WDW visitors of all shapes and sizes. :eek:

You have a good point but I am sure Disney would use bench style seats similar to what they use on the monorail. As for stroller etc, a party could use 2 pods if necessary. If they went with larger cars (multi-party) they would have to seperate them by destination so that you would know where a particular vehicle was going before you got on it. This would be a slightly different idea from what they are doing at Heathrow but would work IMO.

By the way, I just figured out that they could actually remove the monorails from the Epcot line and build this system on top of the existing track without too much trouble. They would have to use busses to take people to the TTC from Epcot while the construction was done but it would then allow the Epcot station to be where several system loops converge and allow pods to then proceed go to a programmed destination on property when completed.

This system is absolutely viable.
 

ILOVEDISNEY

Active Member
The only thing that could possibly work at WDW now would be a light rail system, but I can't imagine that happening now, or even in the next 20-25 years. The buses will all be hybrids of some sort sooner than later. It's just the bottom line, even though Disney has, or had that is, billions of dollars to spend, but I am sure the shareholders would put the kibosh on it. Disney missed the boat by not expanding the monorail system years ago. Just my 2 cents.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
The only thing that could possibly work at WDW now would be a light rail system, but I can't imagine that happening now, or even in the next 20-25 years. The buses will all be hybrids of some sort sooner than later. It's just the bottom line, even though Disney has, or had that is, billions of dollars to spend, but I am sure the shareholders would put the kibosh on it. Disney missed the boat by not expanding the monorail system years ago. Just my 2 cents.

I take it you haven't bothered to read the thread :shrug: :brick:
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
The size of the actual pods isn't going to be a major problem.

Right, if a person is too large to fit in, the CM will just tell them to come back later after they finished their crash diet.

That will surely cause a lot of customer satisfaction and goodwill. Not to mention the lawsuits from the entitlement set.
 

Roxas

New Member
Right, if a person is too large to fit in, the CM will just tell them to come back later after they finished their crash diet.

That will surely cause a lot of customer satisfaction and goodwill. Not to mention the lawsuits from the entitlement set.

I meant that the pods size isn't limited particularly, most of the cost will be the track.

Besides which I'm sure they can make Super size pods for people who just have to have that 10th whopper.:lol:
 

RAXIP

Well-Known Member
what happens when one breaks down with dozens of pods behind it?

From the Q&A page of the ULTra PRT Page

What happens if there is a breakdown?

As ULTra is expected to operate to aircraft standards of reliability, the possibility of breakdown is kept to a minimum. A monitoring system will diagnose weaknesses in a vehicle so it can be taken out of service to deal with them, before it breaks down. Breakdowns that do occur will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Because the vehicles are individually powered, the system is not brought to a halt by power failure. In the extremely unlikely event that a vehicle does break down a service vehicle will go and retrieve it immediately. The vehicle also has emergency exits and when no vehicles are travelling on the guideway it is entirely safe to walk on.
 

GenerationX

Well-Known Member
I like the personal pod idea. However, the pods are rather small, and there is the problem of what to do when they breakdown. Also, what would happen to the huge fleet of buses Disney already owns? So, in order to make this a more workable solution that addresses all of those concerns, I propose the following: run buses on the pod tracks!
 

scpergj

Well-Known Member
I meant that the pods size isn't limited particularly, most of the cost will be the track.

Besides which I'm sure they can make Super size pods for people who just have to have that 10th whopper.:lol:

10th whopper...and a diet coke!
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
I like the personal pod idea. However, the pods are rather small, and there is the problem of what to do when they breakdown. Also, what would happen to the huge fleet of buses Disney already owns? So, in order to make this a more workable solution that addresses all of those concerns, I propose the following: run buses on the pod tracks!

Actually, selling off the buses could help pay for the project.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Obviously they will need the busses while the project is built. I imagine it would be implemented in phases so busses will still be necessary for peak times and special events. I also think places like POP Century, All-Stars, ESPN-Land and the water parks, and the Fort W. (internal) would also maintain it's bus fleet.

Here is how I see it possibly working. They would convert the existing Epcot line to a Pods system. They would then build a loop that leaves the Epcot track near the MK car park booths to serve the WL and and WL DVC's. The track could be at ground level at this point and proceed to FW, the new 4 Seasons, PO, Riverside, SS, OKW and DTD.

Then an extension could be added to the Epcot line to the south that runs parallel to the main road to just northwest of DHS. A loop could run from AK (again mostly at ground level) to CSR and over to the Swan and Dolphin. Then a split extension (elevated) would run over to DHS and another elevated track could run north of the Yacht and BC over to the Epcot monorail station.

Then to complete the system you would need to run a line from DHS over to CBR and then the OKW area to complete that loop. This would be the largest segment of new elevated track.

The monorails system would continue to serve the MK resorts as would some bus service to take people to resorts not served by the Pods.

Easy, and no bus drivers lose their jobs they are just scaled back through normal retirements or they are promoted to run the new system remotely.
 

dmagickingdom

New Member
According to a site with "gossip" and "disney" in it's name, management is seriously looking at adding at least a segmented version of personal transports to the WDW Transportation system. To me WDW would be a perfect "test bed" for such technologies and I would love to see DOE, WDC and major technology companies get together to install these on property.

Seems like a loop from the Epcot monorail station that goes to CBR, OKW, and the PO/Riverside area and back would not only be efficient and feasible but also economical.

Or maybe something as simple as just connecting AKL with AK's entry plaza.

Very interesting rumor!!!! More info here about these systems can be found here...

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/10/personal-pod--1.html

that's awesome...i would love to have that in Kissimmee or at Disney as well...We voted for monorails to run the state of Florida in 2000 but the gov. sat on it for years and the plan was dissolved in 2004.
 

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