News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

[bluerhythym]

More Victorian design (which is really a number of styles and not a single style) would not have been a real fix. The whole Mictorian shtick is overplayed to be almost meaningless, something that looks “detailed” but derives its meaning from the success of Main Street, USA. It’s the safe answer to make nearly every problematic space look more “Disney.” The height of the seaside amusement parks is firmly rooted in the early 20th century, not the late 19th century. The design sensibility is eclectic but it’s also one retreating from the horrors of the Great War.

Well whatever you want to call it, they should have continued the theming they started with Boardwalk Pizza and Pasta and the rest of Paradise Park. I'm not claiming the "Victorian" theming would've turned the land into some masterpiece, or that it was a perfect fit for DCA, but at least it made a start at something cohesive.

 

[fctiger]

Wait isn't today the big premiere day that you had to fork over $300 to see this thing? Has it already started. I SO want to hear someone who went and told of us if they thought it was worth it lol.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Yeah... BUT with lesser attractions, it used to be "this is the best we can do for now."

Then how do you explain this new but very basic Dumbo ride at WDW circa 1971?

Cutting corners at Disney Parks is nothing new.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

So...are they going to rename the Paradise Pier Hotel?

 

[mickEblu]

Yeah... BUT with lesser attractions, it used to be "this is the best we can do for now." Gadget's was the first attraction to scream "cuttin' corners by buyin' at Ride-Mart" at me.

To add to this it’s apples n oranges. One kiddie ride in the dead end back corner of the park compared to an an E ticket/ anchor Of the land. And tbh I don’t think Gadgets screams cutting corners. Certainly better themed than static figures and babies on sticks. The props on gadgets aren’t supposed to be living people with blood running through their veins. They re gadgets. And when the first opened Some of the props had movement and were charming.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

You say this as they are literally building the largest, most detail heavy expansion to a DLR park in history — and just 5 years after they did the same at DCA.

I agree that Pixar Pier isn’t great and am not a huge fan of IP-mania, but also think it’s super unrealistic to expect every single park project to exist on the same level.

I don't expect all projects to exist on the same level, but I expect everything to be good.

There's room for big projects and small projects, but if you take on a large scale attraction like California Screamin' for a reskin, that's a big attraction and should be a big project to ensure the ride doesn't turn out worse off for the investment. Haven't ridden the Incredicoaster in person, but the video is enough to show that the script is weak, the figures and effects generally look underdeveloped, and the many Jack-Jack-on-a-sticks are inexcusable.

Screamin' was always a little underbaked, but all it needed to be a real Disney-quality experience was some cleaning up around the edges to make for a seamless, beautiful seaside coaster without weird unfinished areas of concrete and visible electric power boxes. Instead we get some unpolished "show scenes", a new score, and no meaningful address of the above issues.

Still, Screamin' was a headliner and Incredicoaster is meant to be a headliner as well. If they wanted to make a small project of putting The Incredibles into the park they shouldn't have used the big project that was California Screamin' as a base. This looks like it's brought the quality of the ride down, and it sounds like a number of people around the web agree.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

From Micechat. I kinda like this secret room at Lamplighter:

A secret room known as “The Office” is located behind a special puzzle door and is available to randomly chosen lucky parties. After solving the puzzle, complete with special effects, you’re welcomed into your own little private speakeasy.

Door to “The Office”

“The Office” secret room

“The Office” secret room

Small private patio area just outside “The Office”

I like this idea in theory, but why does the secret room look like a minimally-dressed Cast Breakroom?

 

[D.Silentu]

So much for it remaining secret. Perhaps this is common knowledge but I've just read that the Inside Out spinner will be called 'The Emotional Whirlwind.' Better than the 'Pal O' Round' admittedly, but my concern remains that the ride is not only cheap but short sighted as well. All of DCA's E-Tickets are on the opposite side of the park, including whatever they will eventually build for Marvel. That makes for side heavy crowds and exhibits the need for an E-Ticket on the southwestern side of the park.

 

[dweezil78]

Disney was under no pressure to do something annually.

Maybe you don't think they do, but if you look across the competition, everyone is putting out something new this summer. USH has Kung Fu Panda, Knott's has Hangtime, SFMM has Crazanity and a refreshed boardwalk, and Sea World has Electric Eel, and Legoland has a new submarine ride. Literally something new at every major park in SoCal.

Sure, Disney probably didn't have to spend a cent and would have been OK -- but clearly the mandate is to keep up with the summer competition, especially when every single one of the is working hard to lure their customers away.

 

[TROR]

The secret room in Lamplight Lounge is based off the one at the Pixar Studios where John Lasseter would commonly take employees.

 

[Disney Lover Addie]

My trip is very soon, and since I have a while I’ll recap everything.

 

[TROR]

Maybe you don't think they do, but if you look across the competition, everyone is putting out something new this summer. USH has Kung Fu Panda, Knott's has Hangtime, SFMM has Crazanity and a refreshed boardwalk, and Sea World has Electric Eel, and Legoland has a new submarine ride. Literally something new at every major park in SoCal.

Sure, Disney probably didn't have to spend a cent and would have been OK -- but clearly the mandate is to keep up with the summer competition, especially when every single one of the is working hard to lure their customers away.

I said it before, but this is no excuse. There are things at the DLR that need to be done and would improve the park of they happened. This was neither necessary nor did it improve anything.

 

[dweezil78]

Here's a ridethru of Incredicoaster at night btw -


FX look a lot better, looks like there are also lights for the Jack Jacks on a Pole that light up as you pass by. A shame this stuff is so vastly different/underwhelming in daytime.

 

[D.Silentu]

It's kind of funny how there was a sort of grandfathered acceptance of California Screamin'. Long passed is the initial disdain that a simple coaster was built at a Disney park. As DCA made strides to improve, it was easier to look back at Screamin' and regard it at best as a well made coaster, and at worst a remnant of a poorly made park. Imagineers should have been more mindful that the moment they touched it this grandfathered state would end and the ride would reopen to contemporary judgement.

 

[D.Silentu]

It might be prudent for me to clarify that when I said 'Emotional Whirlwind' was better than the 'Pal O'Round', I only was speaking of the names.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe you don't think they do, but if you look across the competition, everyone is putting out something new this summer. USH has Kung Fu Panda, Knott's has Hangtime, SFMM has Crazanity and a refreshed boardwalk, and Sea World has Electric Eel, and Legoland has a new submarine ride. Literally something new at every major park in SoCal.

Sure, Disney probably didn't have to spend a cent and would have been OK -- but clearly the mandate is to keep up with the summer competition, especially when every single one of the is working hard to lure their customers away.

If you really believe that, then this still falls short as nothing is actually new. Even Kung Fu Panda: The Emperor’s Quest is not just another 3D movie.

 

[__r.jr]

So much for it remaining secret. Perhaps this is common knowledge but I've just read that the Inside Out spinner will be called 'The Emotional Whirlwind.' Better than the 'Pal O' Round' admittedly, but my concern remains that the ride is not only cheap but short sighted as well. All of DCA's E-Tickets are on the opposite side of the park, including whatever they will eventually build for Marvel. That makes for side heavy crowds and exhibits the need for an E-Ticket on the southwestern side of the park.

Inside Out... One of Pixar’s most critically acclaimed films — reduced to a hot dog stand, a candy store, and a spinner ride.

Imagine an engulfing, ambitious, innovative trackless dark ride through Riley’s brain on the level of Pooh’s Hunny Hunt or Mystic Manor with multiple paths and some elaborate animatronics. Can you imagine what going through the Abstract Thought room would be like?
A grand E-Ticket that would have given much needed substance in an area mostly surrounded by off the shelf attractions.
Nope. A re-skinned spinner with recycled shade structures from the Maliboomer's queue is what you get.

 

[TROR]

Incredibles should've replaced Monsters Inc.

 

[Disney Lover Addie]

Here’s the Poll Votes: (If you have not voted, please do. The link is below)
https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/pixar-pier-first-impressions.944474/

 

[Disney Lover Addie]

Inside Out... One of Pixar’s most critically acclaimed films — reduced to a hot dog stand, a candy store, and a spinner ride.

Imagine an engulfing, ambitious, innovative trackless dark ride through Riley’s brain on the level of Pooh’s Hunny Hunt or Mystic Manor with multiple paths and some elaborate animatronics. Can you imagine what going through the Abstract Thought room would be like?
A grand E-Ticket that would have given much needed substance in an area mostly surrounded by off the shelf attractions.
Nope. A re-skinned spinner with recycled shade structures from the Maliboomer's queue is what you get.

Just wait till they replace the Disneyland Railroad with Heimlich’s Chew-Chew Train.