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News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

mickEblu

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I think if they shoe horn a Coco attraction into such a small building, as an omnimover... it’ll be a big fail.

Coco could be an epic log flume boat cruise through the land of the dead. Or a fast paced spook house.
Or a overhead track system like Peter Pan where we fly on colorful alibrijes. Agree, an omnimover would be a terrible idea for a Coco ride. As far as the building being too small, I wonder if they could extend it into the Challenge Trail area.

They basically need to bring in the new Peter Pan from Shanghai and theme it to Coco.
 

mickEblu

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I'm starting to hear a rumor that the Little Mermaid attraction will be rethemed to Coco. The rumor's vague and doesn't have a timeframe. The rumor claims the retheme would be part of an overall project to turn the leftover portion of Paradise into Pixar. If true, what do you guys think?
Interesting. Where’d you hear this?
 

mickEblu

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That rumor sounds really near sighted and dumb, so its possible!
Although I wouldn’t mind Mermaid going away for a PROPER Coco ride I would prefer they build it somewhere else. Mermaid is a people eater that serves it purpose even though it’s a representation of the IP is disappointing.

With that said, even if they used the exact same ride system in the same building, it’s hard to see them doing worse than Mermaid.
 

Phrubruh

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Although I wouldn’t mind Mermaid going away for a PROPER Coco ride I would prefer they build it somewhere else. Mermaid is a people eater that serves it purpose even though it’s a representation of the IP is disappointing.

With that said, even if they used the exact same ride system in the same building, it’s hard to see them doing worse than Mermaid.
I think there is plenty of room for a Coco ride next to Little Mermaid. Just remove Goofy Sky school and the Corn dog palace. I don't know if those DVCs are going to like looking at a warehouse though.
 

mickEblu

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I think there is plenty of room for a Coco ride next to Little Mermaid. Just remove Goofy Sky school and the Corn dog palace. I don't know if those DVCs are going to like looking at a warehouse though.
True but they could always dress it up somehow.
 

planodisney

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Personally I think the issue with Mermaid is that it’s a classic dark ride, next to nothing. At Magic Kingdom it’s close to other quality attractions including Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. Generally if an attraction is by itself, it’s a huge e-ticket. The attraction itself is one of my wife’s and daughters favorites. I think the ultimate solution is to put a quality attraction in the Goofy Sky School spot, which I consider the single worst Disney attraction in the world and a continuing embarrassment for DCA.
 

Professortango1

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Personally I think the issue with Mermaid is that it’s a classic dark ride, next to nothing. At Magic Kingdom it’s close to other quality attractions including Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. Generally if an attraction is by itself, it’s a huge e-ticket. The attraction itself is one of my wife’s and daughters favorites. I think the ultimate solution is to put a quality attraction in the Goofy Sky School spot, which I consider the single worst Disney attraction in the world and a continuing embarrassment for DCA.
It also has no emotional theme. Each darkride has an emotional element the ride taps into, this one is just centered around the songs of the movie. So what we get is a checklist of songs without any emotional weight to make us care or to involve us in the story. Its a very passive experience.
 

britain

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Sounds like a sketchy rumor until more insiders weigh in. However, I do find it amusing that The Little Mermaid, the classic film that had been promised as an attraction in park after park throughout the 90's Disney Decade and finally was built in DCA... is considered by all of us to be fair game for replacement.

If it was true I think it could use that omnimover space just fine. Coco is really about atmosphere, not plot. Keep the track, tear down the non-load bearing walls, go on a musical trip through nighttime candlelit cemeteries to the land of the dead and back. Combine that with what is becoming a regular Mexican fiesta area in that corner of the park anyway, and it all sounds good to me.

And if they're smart they should share development costs with another El Rio de Tiempo proposal.
 

mickEblu

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It also has no emotional theme. Each darkride has an emotional element the ride taps into, this one is just centered around the songs of the movie. So what we get is a checklist of songs without any emotional weight to make us care or to involve us in the story. Its a very passive experience.
The omnimover track just going around every show scene and never through any doesn’t help either. It reaffirms that we re just watching this story, not a part of it.
 

mickEblu

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Sounds like a sketchy rumor until more insiders weigh in. However, I do find it amusing that The Little Mermaid, the classic film that had been promised as an attraction in park after park throughout the 90's Disney Decade and finally was built in DCA... is considered by all of us to be fair game for replacement.

If it was true I think it could use that omnimover space just fine. Coco is really about atmosphere, not plot. Keep the track, tear down the non-load bearing walls, go on a musical trip through nighttime candlelit cemeteries to the land of the dead and back. Combine that with what is becoming a regular Mexican fiesta area in that corner of the park anyway, and it all sounds good to me.

And if they're smart they should share development costs with another El Rio de Tiempo proposal.
Yeah just the IP alone almost guarantees that the attraction would be better than Mermaid no matter the constraints or how bad the imagineers do. It ll be nice and dark with more black lighting and feel more like a traditional dark ride. It also seems like it could make better use of the omnimover system. Of course I’d prefer a purpose built Coco attraction and it’s a no brainer to bring the improved Pan ride system from Shanghai. A flying Coco D ticket would be such a slam dunk in So Cal.

As crazy as it seems that they would actually be willing to scrap Mermaid so quick it’s obvious that it’s widely been looked at as a disappointment in every category except capacity. I don’t find it so far fetched considering the money they spent to retheme an already popular TOT to a 20 story Marvel ride that will have been sitting in Hollywoodland for 5 years by the time Marvel Land opens up.

It also makes sense when you consider the odd land left behind after Pixar Pier known as Paradise Park or whatever they heck they called it. It makes sense that the Pixar Pier they opened pat summer was just phase 1. I’m not sure how long it ll take but Paradise Park with a few off the shelf flat rides and Mermaid doesn’t seem too long for this world. All I hope is that Paradise Gardens remains.
 
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Disney Analyst

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Yeah just the IP alone almost guarantees that the attraction would be better than Mermaid no matter the constraints or how bad the imagineers do. It ll be nice and dark with more black lighting and feel more like a traditional dark ride. It also seems like it could make better use of the omnimover system. Of course I’d prefer a purpose built Coco attraction and it’s a no brainer to bring the improved Pan ride system from Shanghai. A flying Coco D ticket would be such a slam dunk in So Cal.
I like your flying idea... but I also just want a romantic boat ride haha. But add drops and levels.
 

mickEblu

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I like your flying idea... but I also just want a romantic boat ride haha. But add drops and levels.
That also sounds fun and DCA could use a boat ride. I imagine it wouldn’t be too hard to move Mermaid to Fantasyland as part of the FL expansion but at the same time probably not worth the effort or valuable real estate space at DL.
 

NateD1226

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I don't like the Little Mermaid ride, so I would not mind it leaving. It is very boring and it makes me feel disconnected from the movie and ride.
 

mickEblu

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Does Indy feel like a show building to you? It doesn't to me. Just curious.
Yeah the main lava room feels like a show building and so does everything from the rat projection to the boulder. I mean it’s really well done, just not on POTC/ HM level. A lot of it is the lighting of course (POTC and HM are darker. The cheap effects and plywood soldiers from the rat to the boulder don’t help.
 

mandstaft

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Nor does the giant snake help. I see where you can feel that way. Then again, few attractions can compare to the Holy Grail of POTC / HM! Still amazing after 50 years!
 
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