News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

[Deleted member 107043]

Are you saying New Fantasyland was a step in the wrong direction?

No I'm saying New Fantasyland was the last in a long line of defining additions from the late 60's to the early 80s. Pretty much everything from that period - from Pirates to the Electrical Parade to Big Thunder - seems to be considered "classic" Disneyland by most fans.

On a side note, while DL continued to get new additions (Star Tours, Splash Mountain, Indy, the DLR expansion) into the next decade under Eisner, there was a dramatic shift in investment from DL to WDW that began right around the time that the New Fantasyland opened in 1982.

 

[brb1006]

Really? The sea creatures were cute, but I've always felt the overall presentation was flat and cheap looking. Cement and stucco and vinyl.

With the attraction high point (or vacation highlight if you are @Curious Constance) going past a stucco wall with King Triton painted on it.

Meanwhile, the same year in 2001 at Tokyo DisneySea, the same company built this double-decker carousel...

I didn't even know Tokyo had a double-decker carousel.

 

[nevol]

Found this on Twitter, taken two days ago. Even less of this stuff was there this morning, just the stucco box walls are left.

Hopefully they get rid of those airplane toilet water-colored tinted glass windows on ariel’s grotto.

 

[smile]

Oh my god that's so sad! Look at that comparison!

have you, at least, seen pictures of tds before?
- amazing place

remember that was under construction concurrently with dca
...one of these things is not like the other...

 

[Curious Constance]

have you, at least, seen pictures of tds before?
- amazing place

remember that was under construction concurrently with dca
...one of these things is not like the other...

Apparently I haven't seen enough. I actually know next to nothing about the place. Knowing something like the double decker carousel is possible and being done elsewhere at a Disney park makes Pixar Pier seem all the more junk. Disney is fully aware the American parks are getting substandard product and being charged top dollar for it, they just think we're too stupid to notice. And if past experience is any indication of what the public reaction to Pixar Pier will be, they're right.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Disney is fully aware the Anaheim parks are getting substandard product and being charging top dollar for it while milking the local annual passholder base with cheap carrots instead of lavish new attractions, hotels, dining, and innovation; they just think we're too stupid to notice. And if past experience is any indication of what the public reaction to Pixar Pier will be, they're right.

There. Fixed it for you.

 

[TROR]

While we're on the topic of King Triton's Carousel here's a neat tidbit I had no knowledge of. Kinda bums me out now that it's going away. It's like a second death for these now-gone boardwalks.

 

[vancee]

I can't wait to get yellow snow cones (special yellow flavoring of course!)

 

[The Mur]

Anything that gets rid of more of the crappy stucco building finishes is a win (even if it is a small one)

 

[No Name]

Tokyo Disneyland Resort is financed and operated by the Oriental Land Company, not TWDC.

 

[Curious Constance]

Tokyo Disneyland Resort is financed and operated by the Oriental Land Company, not TWDC.

What Disney couldn't afford it?? Disney imagineers design for Tokyo parks dont they? Do the imagineers take ugly, uninspired, unimaginative pills when designing for America?

 

[smile]

Apparently I haven't seen enough. I actually know next to nothing about the place. Knowing something like the double decker carousel is possible and being done elsewhere at a Disney park makes Pixar Pier seem all the more junk. Disney is fully aware the American parks are getting substandard product and being charged top dollar for it, they just think we're too stupid to notice. And if past experience is any indication of what the public reaction to Pixar Pier will be, they're right.

on second thought, don't check it out

What Disney couldn't afford it?? Disney imagineers design for Tokyo parks dont they? Do the imagineers take ugly, uninspired, unimaginative pills when designing for America?

tds: designed by wdi, paid for by olc
dca: designed by wdi, paid for by twdc

 

[TP2000]

I didn't even know Tokyo had a double-decker carousel.

Yup, since DisneySea opened in 2001; Caravan Carousel in the Arabian Coast section of the park. Right next to the Sinbad's Seven Voyages boat ride.

 

[No Name]

What Disney couldn't afford it?? Disney imagineers design for Tokyo parks dont they? Do the imagineers take ugly, uninspired, unimaginative pills when designing for America?

The Oriental Land Company pays Disney to have the Imagineers design and pays for the actual construction. TWDC doesn't pay a penny for anything at Tokyo. The OLC decided to spend $3 billion on their new park and it's been extremely successful since opening day. On the other hand, TWDC pays the Imagineers to design for DCA and pays for the actual construction. They decided to spend $1 billion on their new park and we all know how that went.

So it's about how much each company was willing to pay.

 

[brb1006]

Tokyo Disneyland Resort is financed and operated by the Oriental Land Company, not TWDC.

We already know

 

[brb1006]

Yup, since DisneySea opened in 2001; Caravan Carousel in the Arabian Coast section of the park. Right next to the Sinbad's Seven Voyages boat ride.

I'm actually jealous right now.

 

[Curious Constance]

The Oriental Land Company pays Disney to have the Imagineers design and pays for the actual construction. TWDC doesn't pay a penny for anything at Tokyo. The OLC decided to spend $3 billion on their new park and it's been extremely successful since opening day. On the other hand, TWDC pays the Imagineers to design for DCA and pays for the actual construction. They decided to spend $1 billion on their new park and we all know how that went.

So it's about how much each company was willing to pay.

I understand how it works. My point still stands.

 

[No Name]

We already know

Clearly not everyone. Read the last two pages.

I understand how it works. My point still stands.

How? The imagineers were given totally different budgets.

 

[Curious Constance]

Clearly not everyone. Read the last two pages.

I knew that Disney wasn't paying for Tokyo to be built. I just didn't realize how much better the designs actually are when you fork over the cash.

And my point is, Disney can most definitely afford it and should be doing that in all of their parks. Not purposely choosing cheap, bad design when they are footing the bill. How lame is that?

 

[brb1006]

I knew that Disney wasn't paying for Tokyo to be built. I just didn't realize how much better the designs actually are when you fork over the cash.

And my point is, Disney can most definitely afford it and should be doing that in all of their parks. Not purposely choosing cheap, bad design when they are footing the bill. How lame is that?

Not to mention how better the Tokyo parades look in terms of design.