Oz - Tony Baxter's Final Project

Captain Neo

Captain Neo

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PeterAlt said:
Please... The film was an utter disaster. It was competed during the months Eisner first became CEO. When Eisner screened what was supposed to be the final cut of the film, he called George Lucas and asked him to re-edit it and do whatever magic necessary to make the film lesser of an embarrassment. Lucas did this as a favor for Eisner and I don't think he even got editing credit for it. The film is decent now because of it. I would hate to see what it was like before Lucas put his hands on it.
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Return to Oz is an excellent movie and is fondly remembered and beloved by children of the 80s and early 90s which was the target audience. It was mature and didn't sugar coat things like most modern movies do
 
lazyboy97o

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Sped2424 said:
I know they want to do a great and powerful sequel and from what I have seen in the rumors it is still going to happen, I would be more than happy to see an oz land be done with baxter over viewing it. I liked the new film, not sure I liked how seemingly helpless three magic wielding witches were without a "wizard" to rule over them but It was nonetheless fun. If anything I liked the take on Theodora I just wish Disney bought the rights to wicked, as for me that musical was absolutely amazing and resonated a much more rounded story while at the same time retaining that charm that made the first film so loved. But I digress, anyways there is no doubt in my mind that an oz land is not coming anywhere near wdw in the foreseeable future.
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Universal backed the stage musical and still intends to make a film.
 
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Pixiedustmaker

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PeterAlt said:
. . . the Great and Powerful movie got came out, I noticed that the art style of the set design would blend in nicely with the art of the design of FLE.
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I'm assuming your talking about Dumbo's Circusland and a sort of Kansas fairground as an entrance for an Oz ride.

Disney isn't sure if they're going to make a sequel to Oz the Great and Powerful. It made about $500 million worldwide, so Disney gets half of that gross, that comes out about to $250 million, the film costed about $210 million to make, plus maybe $150 for advertising (?) . . . Disney will be looking at merchandising/DVD sales to break even. They commissioned a script for sequel . . . but Oz wasn't an Alice in Wonderland sized hit, and they are going to do an Alice 2 with Depp.

I think Franco was a mistake for the film, even though I liked it a lot more than I thought I would based on the reviews of the film.

The Oz ride/land is toast, IMHO.
 
Magenta Panther

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stevehousse said:
Yes the 1939 MGM version is a classic but anyone who grew up in the 80s knows the best OZ film is "Return to OZ" :)
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No offense, but NO FREAKING WAY. Little Dorothy getting electro-shock treatments???? That unappealing actress as Dorothy? Special effects that, unlike those in the 1939 film, look incredibly lame today? No charm, no humor, no sentiment, no music? Feh. Return to Oz was awful IMO. Even "The Great and Powerful" trumps that one.
 
Sped2424

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Pixiedustmaker said:
I'm assuming your talking about Dumbo's Circusland and a sort of Kansas fairground as an entrance for an Oz ride.

Disney isn't sure if they're going to make a sequel to Oz the Great and Powerful. It made about $500 million worldwide, so Disney gets half of that gross, that comes out about to $250 million, the film costed about $210 million to make, plus maybe $150 for advertising (?) . . . Disney will be looking at merchandising/DVD sales to break even. They commissioned a script for sequel . . . but Oz wasn't an Alice in Wonderland sized hit, and they are going to do an Alice 2 with Depp.

I think Franco was a mistake for the film, even though I liked it a lot more than I thought I would based on the reviews of the film.

The Oz ride/land is toast, IMHO.
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Fun fact is that franco was the third choice to play the wizard, Robert downey jr being the first, and Depp being the second but both had previous obligations.
 
MKCP 1985

MKCP 1985

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PeterAlt said:
Please... The film was an utter disaster. It was competed during the months Eisner first became CEO. When Eisner screened what was supposed to be the final cut of the film, he called George Lucas and asked him to re-edit it and do whatever magic necessary to make the film lesser of an embarrassment. Lucas did this as a favor for Eisner and I don't think he even got editing credit for it. The film is decent now because of it. I would hate to see what it was like before Lucas put his hands on it.
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I was working the Magic Kingdom in the summer of 85 and "Return to Oz" was highly anticipated and much hyped. It even had its own float in the original Main Street Electrical Parade.

. . . Then the movie came out, bombed, and the float disappeared never to be seen or spoken of again. (except here, of course)
 
OSUPhantom

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I don't think the land of Oz is limited to a single movie. It would fit nicely near Frontierland as a sub land and doesn't need to be based on a single movie or interpretation.
 
Bairstow

Bairstow

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OSUPhantom said:
I don't think the land of Oz is limited to a single movie. It would fit nicely near Frontierland as a sub land and doesn't need to be based on a single movie or interpretation.
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I disagree, both on the idea of putting it in Frontierland and the notion that you don't need a particular version.
In the public's eye it's more or less impossible to separate the concept of "Oz" from the 1939 film.
Presenting anything else would just disappoint or confuse people.
Not that I see Disney shelling out the money to do this. They already pay through the nose for every second of the Oz sequence in the Great Movie Ride.
 
Captain Neo

Captain Neo

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marni1971 said:
Oz plans are not entirely dead for DL. But for news or rumour for WDW its the wrong forum.
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That's good to know. I think i'm the only one the internet who sees the potential in a Oz land/ride. No it wouldn't be exactly like the Sam Raimi film they can do some really wonderous and imaginative things with it taking stuff from the 11 novels written by Baum combined with stuff from the films it could be amazing. Especially if Tony Baxter had a hand in the designs.

I feel the same way about Wonderland but Disney refuses to draw up plans for it despite the last film making over a billion dollars. Instead they junk up the parks with Pixar properties which really don't translate all that well to theme park attractions (yes I know they did a good job with Cars but that was because Lasseter fought tooth and nail with Disney over the budget).
 

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