Californian Elitist
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Yeah, Best Actress, I guess, but other than that...
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Oscar Nominations 2014
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Yeah, Best Actress, I guess, but other than that...
AndyLL
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It's gotten a "A" Cinemascore from the only critics who really matter - the unwashed masses (the people who buy the tickets that make Hollywood the fat cat it is). I think it was more than okay. It was a clean, uplifting movie that did right by all of the parties involved in its story. It deserved better than to be tied with "Bad Grampa"for Oscar noms.
Cinemascore surveys very few theaters only on opening night. It is not taken seriously anymore on the box office tracking forums I'm on.
That said... Thompson really deserved the nomination over Streep. Can't say she should win because I haven't seen all the others.
Magenta Panther
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Um, but on nearly every movie site I visit, Cinemascore is quoted and taken very seriously - supposedly, it's an indicator as to whether or not a movie has "legs". Happily, "Banks" is considered "leggy" - it keeps chugging along in the top ten (although that may change this weekend, with new stuff coming out).
Magenta Panther
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My god, sir, you are a snob! What makes the self-serving, politically-biased members of Hollywood superior judges of film? If they were so knowledgable and infallible, how come they make so many lousy movies? And incidentally, what was wrong with "The Blind Side"?
Californian Elitist
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I have to agree with Tony. He's right, in general, the public has bad tastes in films. If that makes him and me a snob, then so be it, I guess.
Tony Perkis
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The voters of the Academy make for superior judges of film because they're exposed a vastly greater number of films per year, understand the history of cinema far greater than the general public, and can actually go into detail about the subtext and deeper meaning of films.
Case in point, the general public got a Grown Ups sequel greenlit.
The Blind Side is one of the safest, most predictable movies I've ever seen. Just like Saving Mr. Banks (another John Lee Hancock film), I knew exactly what to expect when walking into the theatre. Tell a predictable story, try to tug at the heart strings, call it a day. It's ambition-less filmmaking.
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Tony Perkis
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Banks is sitting at a perfectly respectable $80 million worldwide, but considering the marketing campaign, big names, and Oscar push, it should have earned much more.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Ever hear of the People's Choice Awards?
http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/01/08/peoples-choice-awards-winners-list/
http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/01/08/peoples-choice-awards-winners-list/
Tony Perkis
Well-Known Member
Yikes, not only was Grown Ups 2 nominated for Best Comedy, but Breaking Bad wasn't considered a Best Drama candidate?
This is why the general public shouldn't get a vote.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Depp won favorite actor for Lone Ranger
Tony Perkis
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I don't think Lone Ranger was anybody's favorite anything, let alone anything associated with it.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Lone ranger could have been a fun movie if they two changes IMO - Ditch the love story (why do they think everything have to have a love story) and ditch the carnival scenes with the little boy.
Magenta Panther
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It's accomplished filmmaking in that it does what film is supposed to do - entertain an audience. "The Blind Side" had something to say about tolerance and compassion for your fellow man, and that's pretty damn profound. "The Wolf of Wall Street" was depressing, debauched, and BORING as hell. You snobs must have a high tolerance for self-serving preachy smut.
Californian Elitist
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It's accomplished filmmaking in that it does what film is supposed to do - entertain an audience. "The Blind Side" had something to say about tolerance and compassion for your fellow man, and that's pretty damn profound. "The Wolf of Wall Street" was depressing, debauched, and BORING as hell. You snobs must have a high tolerance for self-serving preachy smut.
No. Just because a film is entertaining doesn't automatically make it a good film. I find Bio-Dome entertaining, but I bet it earned some Razzie nominations, if the Razzies were even around at the time the movie came out.
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Tony Perkis
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It's accomplished filmmaking in that it does what film is supposed to do - entertain an audience. "The Blind Side" had something to say about tolerance and compassion for your fellow man, and that's pretty damn profound. "The Wolf of Wall Street" was depressing, debauched, and BORING as hell. You snobs must have a high tolerance for self-serving preachy smut.
"Entertaining" is the absolute minimum a film should accomplish. If it did not, not even the ironic "so bad, it's hilarious" idea would suffice.
If you found a film entertaining, great, knock yourself out. Enjoy it. That doesn't make it a good film. I enjoy Grandma's Boy and Beerfest, but I don't identify either as necessarily good films. They're guilty pleasures. And the sooner you identify the true gems of cinema (and this year, Wolf of Wall Street, Her, Dallas Buyer's Club, and Gravity apply), the better off you are.
Also, "boring" is the most unoriginal and lazy criticism there is. It explains nothing. It means you have no better, more profound adjective for describing something.
StevieBouy1
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That is great I love The Lone Ranger, its great story and special effects. And I LOVE THE SONG LET IT GO!!
and the movie Frozen!! I've been watching and singing Let it go, love is an open door, reindeers are beeter than people, in summer and other disney songs with the lyrics! I think i have them all memorized!! if you guys want to see the songs with lyrics heres the link http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo07lv5GxXelgYej_jOXJfQ/videos
Sped2424
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Same as disney fan I loved the film of course, but it was nothing spectacular, nor on par with the rest of the films up for Oscar noms. Monsters U was a nice film, but I am not surprised by its snubbing, also the Advertising campaign for that one was anything but small. Did every forget the 4 months of advertising where everything was about Monsters u? From the Spaceship Earth to the special Monsters U parade, and that was just in the parks, if anything the film was over hyped. Heck Disney didn't start promoting the film Frozen until about 3 months before it even came out.
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Sped2424
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Films for many are a way to kill 2 hours and then go again maybe next month, the academy is built up of people who make this area their lives. Doesn't mean they are best judges and many times politics overtake what many real film fans think a movie deserves, but I would rather trust them with Accolades than the general population.
Tony Perkis
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You want to talk about an over promoted film? Anchorman 2.
Magenta Panther
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Yeah, no way the general population would give a guy who married his daughter (Woody Allen) a Lifetime Achievement Award.