Sirwalterraleigh
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Orlando Becoming East Coast Headquarters for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Florida economy is a canary in the coal mine…big booms and quick falls
back to the topic…Disney moving a huge amount of staff to Florida is likely designed to reduce and stagnate earnings of those employees…not to infuse “wealth” into Florida.
the tax giveaways are just freebies that hurt the locals and gravy for Disney
ULPO46
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None taken I know this all too well. In the end I'm not mad I'm happy to call home home again. I'm lucky I don't have kids it's difficult to uproot families its why those with families are leaving the company its just too hard for them.
Sirwalterraleigh
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ULPO46
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The majority of those who are having trouble are screenwriters, play writers, scene set designers ect. These people may have degrees and years of experience in these fields but Orlando is not the Entertainment Capital of the World.
Sirwalterraleigh
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There has been some rebound in canaveral…but I believe they are still down 75% from the nasa days…Titusville and Melbourne were nearly abandoned a few years ago.
as far as defense contracting goes…no active conflicts and we probably haven’t been more poised for a reduction since 91…
gonna have to increase those white envelope payments to the senators
My sibling knew a guy that worked on the East Coast , lived in a studio apt, took the redeye to LAX on Fri night arrive in CA on Sat morning then took the red eye from LAX on Sun night then went straight to work on Mon morning . This is all to be with wife and kids who still lived and maintained their home in CA. This is a rarity.
MrPromey
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"If you believe that, I've got some swamp land in Florida to sell you." used to be a saying.
MrPromey
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... Or people retiring here with large nest eggs.
While I'm sure some of the folks in Golden Oak still work to pay the bills, I'm going to guess that a large percentage do not.
The thing about retiring in Florida is a cliche but it's true, even when it comes to people without big nest eggs. It's one of the reasons our public education sucks so much - there is a disproportionate percentage of voters in this state that don't particularly care what happens with education, here. They also don't care about other important things like long-term infrastructure because they don't expect to be around to benefit from completion.
Don't get me wrong - I have nothing against anyone's grandparents but they're a big part of the cause for a lot of short-sighted decisions around taxes and spending that get made by politicians in this state.
Maybe one day that'll change and maybe things like this Disney move will help spur that very slow transition (unlike another place we've been compared to, we do have a little more to offer outside our tourist spots than barren desert) but as a resident who's still a long ways from retirement, I am certain I'm happier to see these people and their jobs coming to my state than they probably are to be coming here and I can understand why, completely.
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Oh I'm sure the poor education that could have weighed into CA cast declining the move to the Lake Nona location just a few miles away from the MCO airport runways. Factor in 3K miles away from other family, no longer the generally mild hardly any rain weather of Southern CA, hurricane season every year, food offerings ( comparing the diverse food including ethnic of So-Cal to Orlando is no comparison ) etc could have weighed in. But without a doubt the Central FL housing is nicer, cheaper, newer and probably bigger as long one lives a safer neighborhood,, compared to expensive Orange and LA County in CA. The ones who retire with big nest eggs were the ones perhaps who had their money work harder than they do ( ie real estate, stock market investor ). Some I know who went that route all have something in common in a quote - "The food in Central FL does not compare to where I used to live". The construction going is how many more strip malls, fast food places, apt complexes, can Central FL build out to keep up with the many moving to FL every single week. In regards to overcrowding of schools is rent out make shift trailers to put the overflowing students in. In 2017, FL spending per pupil was $9K per student that ranks FL near the bottom at 45th of 50 states but Friday night lights ( ie high school football is king ) with a number of D1 college football stars playing all over the country hailing from FL particularly from inner city Miami which is a hotbed of football talent.
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Lil Copter Cap
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Separate but overlapping concept are the tens of thousands CM layoffs that occurred. Although I acknowledge and recognize the difficult decision of uprooting a life for a move that could potentially end in termination, Disney (whether inadvertently or not) is reminding the company that everyone is replaceable. Some of those that are in WDI have built a mental entitlement safety net. Now that reality is hitting that everyone is replaceable, the shock that thousands of CMs experienced months ago is now seeping into other aspects of the business. The difference being the job is still theirs if they answer Disney's demand to "jump higher"
While trying to be empathetic toward those having to make the huge life decision, there is talent in Orlando that will absolutely fill the needs of the business. Even if temporarily.
While trying to be empathetic toward those having to make the huge life decision, there is talent in Orlando that will absolutely fill the needs of the business. Even if temporarily.
lazyboy97o
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Layoffs and turnover are not new to Walt Disney Imagineering and many Imagineers were layed off in 2020 due to the pandemic.
If the openings are filled with Orlando talent it is a win win for Disney. Plus no 3K mile relocation costs to deal with hiring Orlando locals as opposed to relocating CA cast and their families to FL which is a money savings for Disney.
Sirwalterraleigh
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So like all those people coming out of Rollins or Stetson waiting to conquer the world?
…now they could pilfer Comcast…will they win that fight?
Don't know about Stetson but I knew some who went to Rollins from well to do families being supported by rich daddy's fortune.
JohnD
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Stetson's MBA campus is located in Celebration. Just saying.
lazyboy97o
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Savannah College of Art and Design, University of Central Florida, University of Florida City Lab, and Florida State University all have themed entertainment degree offerings.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Of course they do…
…does that mean it’s open door policy?
the best math schools straddle the Charles River…doesn’t mean you have to graduate from one to use a calculator in Boston.
You said UCF…that’s good
Sirwalterraleigh
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Disney has their “own” MBA training…no upfront cost and you don’t get a degree…and they conveniently deduct it over time from your pay
Sirwalterraleigh
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…pretty much every school in the country. My brother went to school with a bunch of kids who’s dads designed or owned companies that designed early computer networks or parts for Apollo and the Shuttles