On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The 0% interest plan is somewhat of a fallacy. It depends on how responsible the purchaser is. It is a fallacy to the extent that if you are using a credit card as your payment source and do not pay that balance off monthly you will be charged interest - just not from Disney.

If on the other hand you do pay the balance off monthly and/or tag it to a charge card like Amex and pay the bill in full - Then yes, it's an interest fee plan.

Well you have to be smart enough to plan and know what’s you’re doing...

...yes - I realize the flaw in my logic here

 

[RaiseTheShields]

You’re a car expert too? I have friends/acquaintances who work for Jag/Landrover, Audi, BMW, Toyota and Acura in fairly senior sales positions...can you call them up and tell them “how it is?”

Can you call them up and get me a deal on an Audi? Please and thank you.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Can you call them up and get me a deal on an Audi? Please and thank you.

You anywhere near Mahwah, NJ??

(Is yes...my apologies )

 

[mkt]

Interest free loans are good if one is confident one can pay it off during the promotional period. I don't know a lot of people who are responsible enough to pay it off during the promo period.

This interest free loan isn’t tied to a promo period, that’s the regular rate.

 

[RaiseTheShields]

You anywhere near Mahwah, NJ??

(Is yes...my apologies )

What exit? jk I don’t have time to drive from jersey to fla. Though maybe in an Audi I would

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

To get off cars...

Disney would sell more APS if they did a monthly plan at no interest. It’s just that simple.

Very few Disney parks issues go back to the first week of the microeconomics supply and demand curve. This does.

The question really is: do they want to?

Regional parks live off APs...because the money is made off the other stuff and it guarantees attendance.

Universal has “straddled” the approach...in some ways encouraging them and also discouraging them strategically.

Disney has all but activitly discouraged them the last 5 years...if you follow the moves.

I don’t believe they want them.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Of course they get kickbacks...

But the consumer has the power...wait it out until you get a combination price and finance incentives you are happy with.

They have to move the car and you don’t have to take it. Fundamentally.

The worst thing anyone can do is be intent on driving off the lot and saying you need something or don’t want to draw it out. You’re dead right there.

Make them wait....they’ll come to you when the crunch is on...at least once a month.

That’s why I’ve bought all my vehicles on the last day of the month with two hours of closing.

 

[Lilofan]

Can you call them up and get me a deal on an Audi? Please and thank you.

I would think an Audi AWD can be haggled in FL since there is no snow.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

To get off cars...

Disney would sell more APS if they did a monthly plan at no interest. It’s just that simple.

Very few Disney parks issues go back to the first week of the microeconomics supply and demand curve. This does.

The question really is: do they want to?

Regional parks live off APs...because the money is made off the other stuff and it guarantees attendance.

Universal has “straddled” the approach...in some ways encouraging them and also discouraging them strategically.

Disney has all but activitly discouraged them the last 5 years...if you follow the moves.

I don’t believe they want them.

The perks for an AP are minimal...you have to go 8-10 times to make it worth while.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I would think an Audi AWD can be haggled in FL since there is no snow.

They market the awd as being “necessary” to run the red lights at the 535/536 intersection there...

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

The perks for an AP are minimal...you have to go 8-10 times to make it worth while.

That all depends. You also need to factor in the dining, merchandise discounts based on your spending pattern, along with possible AP room discounts. And if you drive - what the savings on parking would be. It may pay for itself in 4 visits - or it may take 10.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

then you are cheating out sone info that can help you.

they get kickbacks for securing loans. The loans cost the dealer nothing... its profit for them. Profit they are could be counting when you are negotiating price.

Helping them with what?

These places print money, and I don’t want to hear how “their losing money on this deal.”

I sold my truck to car max once for $13,000, and I thought I was robbing them when I made $2000.00 after paying it off.

Little did i know they were robbing me...it was on the lot the next day for $18,900.00.

That BS that they only make $300/car is a bold face lie.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

That all depends. You also need to factor in the dining, merchandise discounts. And if you drive - what the savings on parking would be. It may pay for itself in 4 visits - or it may take 10.

I’m saying 8-10 park days, not “visits” or “trips.”

I knew a family from Texas that only visits once a year that were both AP and DVC, but they stayed for 2-3 weeks.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Helping them with what?

These places print money, and I don’t want to hear how “their losing money on this deal.”

I sold my truck to car max once for $13,000, and I thought I was robbing them when I made $2000.00 after paying it off.

Little did i know they were robbing me...it was on the lot the next day for $18,900.00.

That BS that they only make $300/car is a bold face lie.

The money in cars (at least new ones) is in the servicing. It's like a medical billing operation.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The perks for an AP are minimal...you have to go 8-10 times to make it worth while.

It’s used to be 5...that was like 5 years ago. That goes to my point.

The reality is Tanning Booth Bob sees anything less than $100 per head per day collected as a “loss”

Which is silly for an amusement site in theory and practice. So they scare people away and actually lose profit at the expense of revenue. That’s dumb.

It was brought up earlier...but I warned this for years in another digital playground: when this “luxury” label was starting to get tossed around (no doubt started by the Burbank puppetmasters)...it was a huge warning sign to the consumers. They were lining us up as a group.

And now we’re 500 miles further down that road.

“Luxury” is an overwater suite at the Mandarin in Bali...
...not port orleans. The Iger regime has tried to drag us all “out of our lane”...and been far too successful already.

Shields up.

Anyway...I digress.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

The money in cars (at least new ones) is in the servicing. It's like a medical billing operation.

It does not cost $90,000 to build an Escalade, or $72,000 to build a super duty.

I remember when you could buy a fully loaded Denali for $55,000.

 

[RaiseTheShields]

Helping them with what?

These places print money, and I don’t want to hear how “their losing money on this deal.”

I sold my truck to car max once for $13,000, and I thought I was robbing them when I made $2000.00 after paying it off.

Little did i know they were robbing me...it was on the lot the next day for $18,900.00.

That BS that they only make $300/car is a bold face lie.

Sir, your car required $6,600 worth of cleaning [ya filthy *******].

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

It’s used to be 5...that was like 5 years ago. That goes to my point.

The reality is Tanning Booth Bob sees anything less than $100 per head per day collected as a “loss”

Which is silly for an amusement site in theory and practice. So they scare people away and actually lose profit at the expense of revenue. That’s dumb.

It was brought up earlier...but I warned this for years in another digital playground: when this “luxury” label was starting to get tossed around (no doubt started by the Burbank puppetmasters)...it was a huge warning sign to the consumers. They were lining us up as a group.

And now we’re 500 miles further down that road.

“Luxury” is an overwater suite at the Mandarin in Bali...
...not port orleans. The Iger regime has tried to drag us all “out of our lane”...and been far too successful already.

Shields up.

Anyway...I digress.

It’s hard not to spend $100.00 any day in WDW.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The money in cars (at least new ones) is in the servicing. It's like a medical billing operation.

Exactly...which is why there really isn’t much play in the sales prices.

Why would there be? The goal is to get you back in their shop.

Now...they will screw you on high interest...which honestly is why you should get you’re own prior to buying if you need it and can’t get 0.0%...

But that conversation went completely off the rails into “noviceville”

I’d rather talk about Disney...for a change

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

It does not cost $90,000 to build an Escalade, or $72,000 to build a super duty.

I remember when you could buy a fully loaded Denali for $55,000.

Yeah but the dealer isn't working off of that margin. The car manufacturer is. Dealers may have several K they can work with. But it's not in the 10's of Ks.