On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
What i’m saying is that in practice a tip is the difference between having staff or not.

I get what you’re saying about semantics and oxford English...but you know we Americans are terrible at English🤪...

Trust only what we do...not what we say. Tips are salaries for tens of millions of service workers. Because it’s better for the business owners. And so it shall be.
If that’s the case, there’s no argument for tourists not tipping if they don’t consider the service deserved it.

Deserved is not propping up an insufficient wage. If the system is broke don’t expect the customer to fix it.

God we are bored today aren’t we?
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
What i’m saying is that in practice a tip is the difference between having staff or not.

I get what you’re saying about semantics and oxford English...but you know we Americans are terrible at English🤪...

Trust only what we do...not what we say. Tips are salaries for tens of millions of service workers. Because it’s better for the business owners. And so it shall be.
That probably goes part of the way to explaining why rapid table turn-over in the US is so pronounced.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
If that’s the case, there’s no argument for tourists not tipping if they don’t consider the service deserved it.

Deserved is not propping up an insufficient wage.
I’m not arguing that stance.

But th proletariat fights back too...word gets out.

You’ll get the “special sauce” on your sandwich if you place yourself in a “no tip” demographic. 🤢
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
That probably goes part of the way to explaining why rapid table turn-over in the US is so pronounced.
Like in Walt Disney world?

Absolutely.

They rack you for huge fees...the waiters get large tips on those fees to do little for each party.

What a scam, huh??

One thing is for sure: no Stammtisch will be allowed!!
 

brianstl

Well-Known Member
What i’m saying is that in practice a tip is the difference between having staff or not.

I get what you’re saying about semantics and oxford English...but you know we Americans are terrible at English🤪...

Trust only what we do...not what we say. Tips are salaries for tens of millions of service workers. Because it’s better for the business owners. And so it shall be.
If it was such a bad structure the people who live off tipping would be the ones demanding the structural change to the salary structure of the business, but they are the ones most opposed to it because they know it will mean a big pay cut for most of them. It is why servers quit en masse at restaurants which change to a non tipped based salary structure.

If you don't like tipping or believe the continued existence of tipping is the man taking advantage of the working masses, you can show your displeasure for tipping by not patronizing places that it is expected. It is that simple. There are plenty of other options where tipping is not expected in the US, even at WDW.
 

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