NuCitra Brainstorming Thread - Project Seven: A Splash of Placemaking

Pi on my Cake

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Oh that’s exactly what I was thinking. A La Porte restaurant that serves Cajun food.
Any specific characters or themes you and @DashHaber want it based around? And I was figuring I'd be working on it as a part of land development, but totally cool if you guys wanted to do it since it will probably tie into the story a lot
 

JokersWild

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Any specific characters or themes you and @DashHaber want it based around? And I was figuring I'd be working on it as a part of land development, but totally cool if you guys wanted to do it since it will probably tie into the story a lot
I think I agree. Would you mind if I wrote it up? I’m thinking that it could be central to the story, and a character would fit really well there.
 

Pi on my Cake

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@PerGronStudio for the game, there is a small playground for toddlers under the train station along the path to/from Splash Mountain.


That picture isn't zoomed in or anything. That's pretty much all it is. Not much space. BUT it might be a good starting point/hub for the game! Plus, this would be spaced out from the Pirates game making it easier for Joe Normal to not get obviously different things mixed up lol

Of course, if you had something else in mind already, go ahead!
 

Pi on my Cake

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@NigelChanning09 that spot with the blue marker has been a Brer Rabbit meet and greet in the past. Could easily be used for something extra PatF if you wanted. Meet and Greet, streetmosphere, dance party, statue, fancy tree, whatever. Or just left blank as a bit of flex space seating area.

I know info on spaces like this can be tough to find since the queue/exit/gift shop/restroom plaza for Splash here is usually cut off on maps and covered by trees on satellite photos.
 

goofyyukyuk

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So I had a fun idea for the presentation... since this project is focused on developing such a small portion of Magic Kingdom, I thought it’d be cool to do an interactive map as our presentation... that may not make a lot of sense right now, but I’ll try to have it finished by Friday afternoon and we can decide if we want to use it or just do a forum post or google docs/slides.
Also, please let me know if there’s anything you would like me to do concept art on! It’s looking great everyone!
 

NigelChanning

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Quick Question. Would it not make narrative sense for Dr. Facilier to appear in the parks due to the fact that he technically died in Princess and the Frog? He’s appeared before but I don’t know how much of the continuity we want to preserve. Also, are you guys planning on starting the interactive game by the Laughing Place play area? If not, I’ll probably add it to my write-up.
 

Pi on my Cake

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I’m thinking I’m going to go with the tracking/identifying game, just because 1. We already have a treasure hunt game with the pirate game. 2. I haven’t gotten to play with an animal related project yet
Pergron went with the option that involved animals! Gasp! :P

Quick Question. Would it not make narrative sense for Dr. Facilier to appear in the parks due to the fact that he technically died in Princess and the Frog? He’s appeared before but I don’t know how much of the continuity we want to preserve. Also, are you guys planning on starting the interactive game by the Laughing Place play area? If not, I’ll probably add it to my write-up.

He could come back as a ghost or spirit or through the power of hoodoo. Or the answer can just be "don't think about it" like most disney parks stuff with film canon lol.
 

goofyyukyuk

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So I'm guessing everything is going well still haha... can everybody try to get their stuff done by tomorrow afternoon so I have time to make the map? Here's a refresher of everybody's jobs:
Backstory: Jokers- In Progress
Land Development: Pi- In Progress
Frog Mountain: Nigel- In Progress
Game: PerGron- In Progress
Character Development: Dash- In Progress
Presentation: Goofy- In Progress

Concept Art as Needed: Goofy/Anybody who wants to take it- TBC
 

Pi on my Cake

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So I'm guessing everything is going well still haha... can everybody try to get their stuff done by tomorrow afternoon so I have time to make the map? Here's a refresher of everybody's jobs:
Backstory: Jokers- In Progress
Land Development: Pi- In Progress
Frog Mountain: Nigel- In Progress
Game: PerGron- In Progress
Character Development: Dash- In Progress
Presentation: Goofy- In Progress

Concept Art as Needed: Goofy/Anybody who wants to take it- TBC
I should have all my stuff done around 3 or 4 tomorrow. Hopefully decently earlier but I don't want to promise.

Would it help you if I post the text as soon as it is done and then do whatever art or illustrations after? And is there any info I can give you early that will make things easier for you? Any specific writing style that would help? Like bullet points based around specific spots/elements rather than paragraphs?
 
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Pi on my Cake

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Here is my outline of what I'm working on. Most things are just gonna be 1-3 sentences long.
  • Transition Space from Carribbean Plaza to La Porte
    • Main Visual Theme - Bayou. New plant life and trees are added to give it a swampy, bayou feel. Easy to do in Florida.
    • Pirate Game hub - Tia Dalma Shack
    • New - LaFitte reference. Debating about an anchor similar to NoS. Something relatively small though like that.
    • Food Stand - Banyan Tree Bakery, Tiana has set up a shop in a large Banyan tree deep in the bayou so she can share her baked goods with her friends in the swamp. A quick and easy place to get beignets https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/06/3c/40063c781ca477624193ecbabc876dde.jpg
    • New - Firefly lights will be added to the trees so the Bayou themed stretch will be a lovely light show at night.
  • Transition Space from Frontierland (Country Bear side) to La Porte
    • Main Visual Theme - The edge of the outpost for travellers headed out west
    • Brer Rabbit Tree House thing sign - Replaced with a stack of crates (some of dubious, smuggled origins) that hold supplies from La Porte for travellers headed out west.
    • New - Covered Wagons parked here as travellers headed west stock up and rest. A visual that fits La Porte and Frontierland equally well.
  • Transition from Frontierland (Thunder Mountain Side) to La Porte
    • Main Visual Theme - La Porte, a former smuggler’s hideout turned into an outpost for travellers, explorers, settlers, and adventurers headed out west. Very rustic to fit with Frontierland visuals, but still firmly set in the bayous near New Orleans.
    • Tom Sawyer Island Dock - Relocated Riverboat station. Visually tying La Porte and Thunder Mountain together using iconography associated with both. But on guidemaps the Riverboat will technically be counted as a part of Frontierland, it is really on the border. Tom Sawyer Island dock is relocated to the overflow station by Pecos Bill.
    • Train Station - The Train Station is set up to be more for travellers headed out west to join the gold rush. It will be given a La Porte makeover, but it will be subtle and keep the rustic charm. The changes are mostly just to recontextualize the setting rather than change it entirely.
    • New - General La Porte theming by the entrance to Frog Mountain under the Train Station. Things like fake facades for stuff in the outpost. A watch tower just out of reach. Some Louisiana flora. All on the small path to the train station/Frog Mountain. Hints at a secret tunnel made by LaFitte that has been walled off and lost. Equipment from Lewis and Clark style explorers (like a canoe full of equipment in the water)
    • Wooden Brer characters statue - The wood carving of the Splash Mountain characters right by the entrance to the queue near where you pass under the train station will be replaced with an authentic wood carving of Tiana, Louie, and Naveen. It serves as an homage to what was there before (the wood carving), a rustic touch to help fit the vibe of the Rivers of America area, and a signal for confused guests to know where the PatF side of La Porte is.
  • General other stuff if I have time
    • I want to make a custom trash can.
    • Changes to the Sorcerer’s of the Magic Kingdom Game.
    • Banyan Tree Bakery menu
 

goofyyukyuk

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I should have all my stuff done around 3 or 4 tomorrow. Hopefully decently earlier but I don't want to promise.

Would it help you if I post the text as soon as it is done and then do whatever art or illustrations after? And is there any info I can give you early that will make things easier for you? Any specific writing style that would help? Like bullet points based around specific spots/elements rather than paragraphs?
Haha actually art first would be best probably, but getting them both in whenever you can works! I think bullets or short write ups based around specific spots will probably be best!
 

NigelChanning

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Frog Mountain, the newly re-themed version of Splash Mountain, will be easily integrated into the Frontierland area. Chick-a-pin Hill will be become the tree housing Mama Odie’s boat. Fireflies (fibre optics) will light up the night sky above the Louisiana Bayou in a swampy environment. All of this to turn Splash Mountain into a musical adventure featuring Tiana and friends.
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The entrance will be turned into Tiana’s Place, the restaurant from the movie. A banner hangs on the front that reads “Mardi Gras Tonight!”.
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After guests enter, they wind through the Louisiana Bayou before embarking on their journey. Along the way, characters from the film can be spotted like Mama Odie’s Snake. Guests will also encounter crates full of Mardi Gras equipment like fireworks and masks. The sign outside of Splash Mountain will be altered to include Princess Tiana rather than Brer Rabbit. In addition to the name of the attraction, there will also be a sign that reads “Are you ready?”
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Splashdown Photos, Splash Mountain’s gift shop, will become Mama Odie’s .
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The store sells Princess and the Frog merchandise like shirts, accessories, and plushies. The shop is filled with many different animals from Mama Odie’s house. Dogs, Pigs, Cows, and Goats are just some of the creatures you’ll find.
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As for the Laughing Place play area at the exit for Splash Mountain, it will become a place where children and families can meet Princess Tiana, Prince Naveen, and Louis. If you’re lucky (or unlucky), you may even spot Dr. Facilier.
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The spot often used for a Brer Rabbit meet and greet will become a dance party starring Louis the Alligator called “Bayou Beat Dance Party”. Children will be able to take part in the Mardi Gras celebration and jam out to songs like “Dig a Little Deeper”, “When We’re Human”, and “Gonna Take you There”.
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Pi on my Cake

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  • Transition Space from Carribbean Plaza to La Porte
    • Main Visual Theme - This is the Bayou. New Flora are brought over to this underutilized green space to give it the proper visuals of being at the edge of the swamp. Spanish moss hanging down, a Banyan tree in the background, cicadas buzzing in the difference. I realize swampland plants will be tough for Disney to replicate in Florida, but I trust the imagineers to manage it. FLights meant to replicate Fireflies in the trees will be added to the trees so the Bayou themed stretch will become a lovely, walkthrough light show at night.
    • The starting/ending point for the Pirates of the Caribbean Adventureland Treasure Hunt is in a shack just outside of Caribbean Plaza in this space that is becoming more of a bayou themed transitional area. The hub for the game will receive a makeover so it will resemble Tia Dalma's Shack helping to bridge the gap from the Caribbean to the bayou.
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    • The anchor from the Pirate Captain Jean Lafitte's ship can be found here. Unlike its counterpart in New Orlean's Square, this one is covered in moss, rust, and overgrowth. Surrounded by some loose drift wood and other evidence that Lafitte may have wrecked his ship in this area long ago.
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    • Banyan Tree Bakery will replace Golden Oak Outpost. The ever enterprising Princess Tiana has set up a shop in a large Banyan tree deep in the bayou so she can share her baked goods with her new friends in the swamp. This rethemed food stand will be the quickest and easiest place to get Tiana's world famous Beignets among other delicious baked goods!
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  • Transition Space from Frontierland (Country Bear side) to La Porte
    • Main Visual Theme - This is the edge of La Porte, the outpost for travellers headed out West. In one direction, the bayou stretches out. In another, cross the bridge in front of the former Splash Mountain to La Porte settlement. In the third direction, make your own journey West as you venture to Frontierland, Pecos Bill, and Country Bears. This is a very rustic area with light bayou theming in the flora so it can easily blend visually from La Porte and Frontierland
    • The Splash Mountain sign on this side of the mountain will be replaced with a stack of crates (some of dubious, smuggled origins) that hold supplies from La Porte for travellers headed out west. Serving as a natural way to delineate the new area.
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    • Covered Wagons will be parked here as travellers headed west stock up and rest at La Porte. A visual that fits La Porte and Frontierland equally well aiding in a smooth transition while visually telling the story of the new section of the park.
  • Transition from Frontierland (Thunder Mountain Side) to La Porte
    • Main Visual Theme - This is the main hub of La Porte, a former smuggler’s hideout turned into an outpost for travellers, explorers, settlers, and adventurers headed out west. Very rustic to fit with Frontierland visuals, but still firmly set in the bayous near New Orleans. Wooden and stone buildings (many just facades to make the place seem bigger than it is) fill the space implying a bustling hub for explorers and settlers.
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    • The current dock for the rafts to Tom Sawyer Island will become Lafitte's Landing, named for the Pirate captain who helped establish La Porte. This will serve as the new station for the Riverboat. The Riverboat is an iconic visual that fits snuggly into both Frontierland's theme and the New Orleans theme. Plus, it will help La Porte feel like a bustling hub. The old Riverboat station in Liberty Square will become a new shop to sell general Liberty Square merch (something needed with increased crowds in the area due to the opening of Curse of the Wendigo). The current overflow/emergency dock for Tom Sawyer Island rafts near Pecos Bill will be expanded to be the main dock.
    • The Train Station will receive some mild updates to be themed more for travellers headed out west to join the gold rush rather than. Taking guests to the Wild West instead of around it. It will be given a La Porte makeover, but it will be subtle and keep the rustic charm. The changes are mostly just to recontextualize the station rather than change it entirely.
    • At the edge of the water, a canoe full of equipment set up for Lewis & Clark style explorers ready to discover the whole of the Louisiana Purchase can be seen. Another visual that fits equally well with both La Porte and Frontierland helping smooth the transition.
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    • The wood carving of the Splash Mountain characters right by the entrance to the queue near where you pass under the train station will be replaced with an authentic wood carving of Tiana, Louie, and Naveen. It serves as an homage to what was there before (the beloved wood carving), a rustic touch to help fit the vibe of the Rivers of America area, and a signal for confused guests to know where the PatF side of La Porte is.
 
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DashHaber

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Hey, there. I haven't heard yet from @JokersWild about them, but I have some potential characters I had made for La Porte. I wasn't sure how many to make for this small area, so I had three ideas. One is a mayor from the town's past when it shifted from pirate home to trade port, one character tied to the exploring challenge, and one tied with an idea mentioned for a counter Cajun restaurant.

Henri LaTriche: Though Jean Lafitte may have been the man who founded La Porte, there would be others who would manage the town after the legendary pirate’s passing. Among them was Henri LaTriche, a smuggler and gambler who managed the town’s razor-thin balance of safe harbor and criminal port. He had heard rumors of the American expansion and feared that he’d have to pack up and find himself a new base of operations. Instead, he found himself with the chance of a lifetime when, in the 1840s, a wealthy businessman happened to pass through town in need of rest. The man was traveling west with an eye towards mining operations, discussing the money just waiting in a potential goldmine. Though this gentleman’s eye was on the West, Henri found himself thinking of all those wallets that would be passing through. Realizing that respectability could bring far more riches in his pocket than his crooked operations thanks to the town’s location, Henri began rebuilding La Porte into a proper trade port. Though this new development came from a place of greed, there is no denying that Henri’s initial plan had transformed a once dangerous place into a safe harbor for any traveler in need of a place to stay.

Nathan S. E. Wilkinson: La Porte may have grown into a welcoming town, but there are still plenty of tales fueled by the town’s past in piracy. Among those tales is the Legend of the Lewis and Clark Treasure. It is said that Lewis and Clark had brought a fair number of riches with them along their travels to use as bartering tools. However, it is said that they lost a substantial portion of those riches when they passed through the land that would eventually become La Porte. No one knows where this treasure might be, or if it is even real. Well, one person offering to help find it is Nathan S. E. Wilkinson. Though he claims to have traveled the world and found all sorts of treasure, the locals know Nathan for his numerous scams and get-rich-quick schemes. This would appear to be his latest scheme, recruiting visitors of La Porte in a fabulous treasure hunt with promises of grand riches…in return for a cut of the treasure. There’s no way a guy like Nathan would have an actual treasure map leading to some legendary treasure…or would he?

Sylvain Broussard: When he was a small child, Sylvain was treated to the wondrous tastes that came from the world of French cuisine. However, hard times had hit his family, forcing them to emigrate from France to America. Finding a home on the outer reaches of La Porte, his family found themselves hit hard, having to trade the elegant kitchens of Paris for the humid bayous of Louisiana. However, Sylvain did not share his family’s frustrations. He found himself taken by the flavors and spices that were growing in the wilds of this new home, instead of contained in a prim garden. As he grew up and developed his own culinary talents, he began mixing his family’s precise techniques with these wild tastes and spices. Now, all grown up and the latest chef in the family line, he has set up shop offering guests a taste of those wonderful flavors just lurking in the bayou.
 

goofyyukyuk

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Everything is looking amazing!
Hey, there. I haven't heard yet from @JokersWild about them, but I have some potential characters I had made for La Porte. I wasn't sure how many to make for this small area, so I had three ideas. One is a mayor from the town's past when it shifted from pirate home to trade port, one character tied to the exploring challenge, and one tied with an idea mentioned for a counter Cajun restaurant.

Henri LaTriche: Though Jean Lafitte may have been the man who founded La Porte, there would be others who would manage the town after the legendary pirate’s passing. Among them was Henri LaTriche, a smuggler and gambler who managed the town’s razor-thin balance of safe harbor and criminal port. He had heard rumors of the American expansion and feared that he’d have to pack up and find himself a new base of operations. Instead, he found himself with the chance of a lifetime when, in the 1840s, a wealthy businessman happened to pass through town in need of rest. The man was traveling west with an eye towards mining operations, discussing the money just waiting in a potential goldmine. Though this gentleman’s eye was on the West, Henri found himself thinking of all those wallets that would be passing through. Realizing that respectability could bring far more riches in his pocket than his crooked operations thanks to the town’s location, Henri began rebuilding La Porte into a proper trade port. Though this new development came from a place of greed, there is no denying that Henri’s initial plan had transformed a once dangerous place into a safe harbor for any traveler in need of a place to stay.

Nathan S. E. Wilkinson: La Porte may have grown into a welcoming town, but there are still plenty of tales fueled by the town’s past in piracy. Among those tales is the Legend of the Lewis and Clark Treasure. It is said that Lewis and Clark had brought a fair number of riches with them along their travels to use as bartering tools. However, it is said that they lost a substantial portion of those riches when they passed through the land that would eventually become La Porte. No one knows where this treasure might be, or if it is even real. Well, one person offering to help find it is Nathan S. E. Wilkinson. Though he claims to have traveled the world and found all sorts of treasure, the locals know Nathan for his numerous scams and get-rich-quick schemes. This would appear to be his latest scheme, recruiting visitors of La Porte in a fabulous treasure hunt with promises of grand riches…in return for a cut of the treasure. There’s no way a guy like Nathan would have an actual treasure map leading to some legendary treasure…or would he?

Sylvain Broussard: When he was a small child, Sylvain was treated to the wondrous tastes that came from the world of French cuisine. However, hard times had hit his family, forcing them to emigrate from France to America. Finding a home on the outer reaches of La Porte, his family found themselves hit hard, having to trade the elegant kitchens of Paris for the humid bayous of Louisiana. However, Sylvain did not share his family’s frustrations. He found himself taken by the flavors and spices that were growing in the wilds of this new home, instead of contained in a prim garden. As he grew up and developed his own culinary talents, he began mixing his family’s precise techniques with these wild tastes and spices. Now, all grown up and the latest chef in the family line, he has set up shop offering guests a taste of those wonderful flavors just lurking in the bayou.
I love this! Hopefully jokers has a way to integrate these into his story, but if not, I'll still try to get them in! Great work!
 
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