In some ways it always has been. Disney didn't own Star Wars, Indiana Jones, or the Muppets when DHS opened. And half of GMR was licensed.
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Now that Star Wars is taking off, what's next?
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In some ways it always has been. Disney didn't own Star Wars, Indiana Jones, or the Muppets when DHS opened. And half of GMR was licensed.
Maeryk
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Well, much of GMR was MGM.. who partnered in the park. But yeah, good point.
Magenta Panther
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Ah, the good old days...
I really wish there was a way to retroactively make Disney no longer a publicly traded company. Get rid of the clueless shareholders and just let creative people be creative.
Maeryk
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Well.. yes and no. Public shareholders is a good thing.. it generates money. And just letting creative off the leash can be a very bad thing.
But at this point, with as long as Disney has been around, and as long as, specifically, the parks have been a thing, you'd think there would be SOMEONE out there who had both a business AND creative sense. There has to be SOME second generation imagineer whose other parent is a ceo or something, somewhere.
I can't tell if Iger is better or worse than Eisner, but I do like the direction it's starting to move. I don't like the lack of sponsorship. It works well in a lot of ways, and seems to cut down on the "exit through the gift shop" mentalities when you have a sponsored ride/attraction.
But it seems to me currently, that the vision is shifting back from the "monetize the crap out of what we have" and moving towards "let's come up with something new and different, and spread it around". And that gives me a happy.
I wish I got that same vibe from Iger, but I just don't. It still feels like the primary objective is coming up with the easiest way of maximizing profits rather than creating something special and allowing that to be the draw that brings in the people and the profits.
I don't get the Eisner hate. He oversaw Typhoon Lagoon, Pleasure Island, DHS, and tons of resort expansion.
Maeryk
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he also squandered a ton of money building DCA.. which was hollywood.. about an hour from actual hollywood. Read about superstar limo sometime. Ugh.
What most of us hate about Eisner is that the gift shop seemed to be the end goal for him. Slap in a crappy ride, but a big gift shop. And convert all the non ride spaces to gift shops too. And then put in a gift shop selling "Disney Gift Shop" branded merchandise that the ride gift shop lets you out into.
sedati
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I'll take a gift shop that I can easily walk right out of over a commercial disguised as a pre-show that I can't avoid. I also don't like the idea of an attraction like Spaceship Earth picking up a sponsor that can alter its narrative or even theme. What if the only sponsor willing to put up money is something like Huggies Diapers, or Slim Jims? I'm being silly (I hope) but especially in Epcot, sponsors made major changes to what the imagineers had planned. They can dictate what tech is used in a ride which can be great, but can also be less so. They may push for a certain color to be used, such as changing Figment from Fuji green to Kodak purple (an improvement) but they can also apparently nix whole attractions that could be seen as sympathetic to a competitor ala Mount Fuji.
Maeryk
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All very solid and interesting points.
As long as the preshow is kept thematic and topical, it doesn't bother me much. Siemens is a communications company. So they fit well with SE. The theme of the ride has pretty much been communication and information from day one, so it makes sense.
Likewise GE sponsoring Horizons, or GM test track.
I agree, that say, Amazon sponsoring The Land would be.. tricky. "Scan this code with your smart phone to order this hydroponics system".
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
A rumor is when somebody hears a secret and leaks it.
This is just wild speculation. Armchair imagineering. Surmising.
It's not rumors.
Maeryk
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you heard it here first folks.. that's a coded rumor that Princess Bride is replacing Figment at Imagination.
As you wish.
RSoxNo1
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Thoughts? Here's a few.
One, this isn't news or rumors.
Two, if this is a discussion about the parks, they literally just had the biggest day of announcements since they announced EPCOT Center.
Three, if this isn't about parks then its not only not news or rumors, it's also not parks.
ok ok ok - wild speculation.
The one thing I have realized in my short time on the forum is that you shouldn't post when you are half awake on a Monday morning before your first cup of coffee.
And yes - I do know what the word means. I admit it was poor word choice.
One - yes, I admit, poor word choice.
Two - It is about parks. Yes, Disney had an impressive slate of announcements at D23 that will take construction into the next decade. However, I seriously doubt Iger and company isn't considering which acquired IP should be leveraged next. With the purchase of Lucasfilm and the ownership of the Indiana Jones IP, I figured why not speculate how it could be incorporated into the parks - not the next phase of expansion, since we already know what that will be, but the one after that. I wouldn't be surprised if someone at Disney isn't already tasked with figuring that out.
Three - It's speculation on parks.
Yellow Strap
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Ok...I'll jump into the blue sky, full speculation ideas pool...
Besides updating and renovating already existing rides and attractions.
The next phase after 2021 will focus on the full renovation of Epcot and then a 5th gate.
Besides updating and renovating already existing rides and attractions.
The next phase after 2021 will focus on the full renovation of Epcot and then a 5th gate.
Another thread that is neither news nor rumors. Post this in chit chat, general discussion or armchair imagineering.
Spike-in-Berlin
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I can't stand this entire superhero stuff so I would rather appreciate an Indiana Jones attraction, either in the MK (Adventureland like in DL) or in DHS as part of an only slightly larger Indiana Jones sub-land, an entire Indiana Jones Land is too much IMHO, considering the substantially smaller impact of the franchise in pop culture compared to Star Wars. And this attraction is already existing, I have no problems with clone rides whatsoever so please bring a clone of the IJA to WDW, same ride track layout, same technology but perhaps in a different setting however, not Asian like in DL but either the TDS version in South America or an unique Egyptian version for WDW.