Now I dislike the Tronorail even more

[ABigBrassBand]

TRON, while it doesn't seem like anything good now, was great compared to movies of it's time, and is an instant classic. I would say the opposite, because it seems the sequel has high expectations to overcome.

Like the film or not, you have to admit that the Tronorail was a clever idea.

 

[Krack]

TRON was a dud even by 1982 standards.

It gets labeled as a dud, but adjusted for inflation, it performed at the box office about the same as the Princess and the Frog - not a blockbuster, but not exactly a bomb either. The truth is, E.T. sucked up all of the kid dollars that year and no other movies for kids (other than maybe Annie) approached blockbuster status.

By comparison, it made more than all the Muppet films that were released around the same time, the Last Starfighter, Blade Runner, Flash Gordon, Dune, the Road Warrior, Weird Science, the Sandlot, A Christmas Story and Weekend at Bernie's.

 

[captainkidd]

Well he/she did find Transformers confusing...

I don't know why disliking the 1982 movie gives you the right to hate an ad for the 2010 sequel/remake more. For all you know the new movie could suffer from being too simple, or be amazing, or be something you hate but others end up loving, therefore justifying its release. In the end, you're just one opinion and one that hasn't been formed yet for the 2010 movie which "Tronorail" is selling.

And speaking of opinions the 1982 movie scores a 6.7/10 average rating (based on over 26,000 votes) on IMDB, a 68% approval rating on RT (based on 38 reviews) with a 69% rating for audiences on the same site. So yes, some people do actually like it.

Cool - Now we're throwing out insults.

What I found confusing about Transformers were the battle scenes between the robots where they all looked exactly the same. I'm far from the only one to have that opinion.

Last time I checked my address, it was in a free country and I have the "right" to hate whatever ad I choose.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If some people like it, that's fine by me. I like a lot of movies that other people don't. I'm just stating my opinion that I don't understand why this movie needed a sequel. BTW, 26,000 votes on IMDB is not a lot. As an example, Star Wars has over 327,000 votes.

 

[BrerFrog]

I have never seen the original, but based on what people say I am also surprised Disney decided to do a sequel.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Cool - Now we're throwing out insults.

With a "". I'm sorry you were that offended by it.

Last time I checked my address, it was in a free country and I have the "right" to hate whatever ad I choose.

Is that really relevant to the topic? I too am allowed to provide reasoning why I disagree with your opinion. Again your taking a post way too seriously and not really developing a point further.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If some people like it, that's fine by me. I like a lot of movies that other people don't. I'm just stating my opinion that I don't understand why this movie needed a sequel. BTW, 26,000 votes on IMDB is not a lot. As an example, Star Wars has over 327,000 votes.

But 26K isn't exactly nothing either. It's a decent sized amount to see a general opinion.

I think the rating is fair and the movie isn't incredible, but it's obvious that Disney felt they could profit from a sequel. Tronorail will soon be gone anyway so at least you won't have to worry about seeing it for much longer. :wave:

 

[imagineer boy]

I like Tron because it has a real 80s charm to it that I like. Plus I love the graphics and creative visuals.

But above all I love the sound. The electronic rumble of the recognizers brings joy to my sub whoofers every time! :sohappy:

 

[Frightful]

I'll admit I had only very vague ideas of what was going on plot-wise in TRON, but I was not exactly firing on all cylinders at the time, and I did think it was reasonably awesome. I get the feeling that the point of TR2N or whatever is to look really cool just because it can. I'm sure it will achieve that beautifully, and the expectation doesn't extend very far beyond that.

 

[Texas84]

Well, back in ancient times, a lot us liked TRON. Especially us geeks programming in BASIC on the TRS-80. And the video game in the arcades was fun. Yes, we didn't have game consoles back then. We had to go to the arcade and use quarters.

 

[Tigger1988]

Well, back in ancient times, a lot us liked TRON. Especially us geeks programming in BASIC on the TRS-80. And the video game in the arcades was fun. Yes, we didn't have game consoles back then. We had to go to the arcade and use quarters.

Forgetting Atari?

 

[EpcotServo]

I keep trying and thinking of an appropriate response...


But I think I'll just exile myself for a few thousand years.



...



Check back later.

 

[slappy magoo]

Actually, I can't. I can give you some history background, but I didn't live it, so how I can give you any mindset as to what people were thinking?

Declaration of Independence? :shrug:

 

[Phonedave]

The Black Hole was pretty much a loose remake of 20,000 Leagues in space, hehe...

Way loose

-dave

 

[Phonedave]

Well, back in ancient times, a lot us liked TRON. Especially us geeks programming in BASIC on the TRS-80. And the video game in the arcades was fun. Yes, we didn't have game consoles back then. We had to go to the arcade and use quarters.

Arcades ?

Just about every store had a console or two. Restaruants, 7-11, the bagel shop (which had a Burger Time that was so sun faded you could not play it), the bike shop. They all had games. We all knew when a new game was in a location, and we would all hit it up. Lining your quarters up on the machine to save your place in line.

And yes, around that time frame I was programming on a TRS-80 as well. We also had a VAX cluster, but thats a horse of a different color.

I still thought TRON was nothing special.

The game was OK, but the part where you basically play Breakout in order to enter the MPC core was poorly done - in my opinion of course.

-dave

 

[Phonedave]

Forgetting Atari?

Or Vectrex, or Famicom, or ColecoVision (I think that was out around TRON time)

but none of them could hold a candle to a real arcade game at the time.

Remember the uber-disappointing port of Pac-Man to the Atari 2600

-dave

 

[slappy magoo]

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Or Vectrex, or Famicom, or ColecoVision (I think that was out around TRON time)

but none of them could hold a candle to a real arcade game at the time.

Remember the uber-disappointing port of Pac-Man to the Atari 2600

-dave

That was Atari's jump the shark moment. I think they gave their programmers 6 weeks to recreate pac man, but charged a premium. Their rep took a major hit.

 

[Magenta Panther]

The Black Hole was pretty much a loose remake of 20,000 Leagues in space, hehe...

And had the weirdest, most ambiguous and inconclusive ending ever.

 

[Dragonrider1227]

Since 1982, Tron has gained a pretty big cult following. A following that has been demanding something new for quite some time now I believe.
Mind you, I was never a huge fan of the movie myself. Yeah, it's got some pretty epic effects for '82 but everyone who says it was flat and confusing is right. It was also real tough telling who was who 'cause they all looked so alike. When I was little, I just watched it for the at the time awesome visuals XD

 

[captainkidd]

Declaration of Independence? :shrug:

Yeah, I guess that's true. My point being, for me to find something new and exciting, I would at least need a point of reference to compare it to.

 

[captainkidd]

Remember the uber-disappointing port of Pac-Man to the Atari 2600

-dave

I used to kick butt at that game. It was so much easier than the arcade version.

That's another odd thing. I'm a child of 80's arcades. I loved them. Maybe if I had seen TRON when I was a kid, I'd have different feelings about it. I look at the trailer for the sequel and it makes me think "Wow, the fact that this guy is coming back after spending 30 years in a computer program to communicate with his son is pretty cool." When in fact, he was out of the computer program at the end of the 1st one, and there was never any mention of his son.

 

[goreesha]

I was nine years old when Tron came out, and I loved it. It wasn't confusing to me then. Ironically, I did find the Transformers movie confusing, with all the jumpy close ups of similar looking robots. So maybe only the young'uns can follow these types of films. I don't know.

What I loved about Tron, personally, was the idea that programs are little sentient beings, and programmers/users are essentially their gods. That was a cool idea to me as a kid. I also loved the unique visuals in that movie. It looks like no other movie that I can think of. A totally unique art style. I also really liked the character of Flynn. He's a nerdy wise-cracking genius-dork who, for a short time, becomes a god in a computer world. Light cycles, disc battles, recognizers, the MCP, the concept of the I/O tower, all of this stuff was mind blowing to me as a youth.

Also, I liked the Tron speed tunnel at Disneyland's Peoplemover. That was awesome.

Now, as to the sequel, we shall see. I imagine it has been written in such a way that knowledge of the previous movie will not be required.