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I get really annoyed when CP's complain about rent. Rent really isn't a big deal, it's part of life, regular CM's are paying rent too you know. The average total for monthly rent as a CP is around $300 which isn't really that bad when you consider that all your utilities are covered including cable.
 

joanna71985

Well-Known Member
I never complained about rent for any of my CPs. I'm happy to be paid at all (since most internships do not pay anything whatsoever).
 

khelinski

New Member
I get really annoyed when CP's complain about rent. Rent really isn't a big deal, it's part of life, regular CM's are paying rent too you know. The average total for monthly rent as a CP is around $300 which isn't really that bad when you consider that all your utilities are covered including cable.

There are pros and cons to this. On one hand, I have to say - the apartments are pretty good. They are well furnished. Yes, utilities does come with it (including cable AND internet). Free electricity/water.

I had worked at Cedar Point for about a week few years back. Had a similar job to the job I had at Disney, and it wasn't bad at all (actually enjoyed it). But I couldn't stand the housing one bit. It was completely run down.

So anyone that complains about rent for their 'crappy apartments at Disney, I too get annoyed, since those apartments are five-star hotels compared to what Cedar Point offers.

However, Cedar Point does not have price management. You ask ANY CP, I will bet that ANY CP will tell you a story or two about the rude security. So I like to know if our rent money ACTUALLY goes to the rent, or does it go to security's paychecks.

And please don't tell me, 'well, they have to be arrogant because well, so CPs wouldn't be partying" or some weak argument. Because partying will happen EITHER OR.

What I cant stand is working 8-10 hour shifts - arriving at the apartment late at night, only to experience a rude-a.s.s. security guard. It brings your spirit down a lot (esspeially when they think of all CPs as complete s.h.i.t.holes). It's almost, dare I say, degrading.

I also can't stand their mail system. I get an important package that has money in it. I need that package. But I have to wait till they 'sort it out'. And by the time they are done, I am off to work - which defeats the purpose of the package when I needed that money for either gas in the tank or food in the tummy. And yes, this happened to me twice.

Sooo...with that all said. I don't mind coughing the money (although, I still think it would be cheaper if four/five people rented a $500 dollar apartment, and bought their own stuff - and if you ask any full-timer, most knows that CPs get ripped off). What I do mind is P.M., which runs those apartments. And I can almost guarantee every current or former CP - no matter their love/hate toward their program, can shed some light over at least one bad experience with P.M.
 

TiggersPooh

Active Member
I had worked at Cedar Point for about a week few years back. Had a similar job to the job I had at Disney, and it wasn't bad at all (actually enjoyed it). But I couldn't stand the housing one bit. It was completely run down.

So anyone that complains about rent for their 'crappy apartments at Disney, I too get annoyed, since those apartments are five-star hotels compared to what Cedar Point offers.

Cedar Point has some horrid housing. Many of my friends have worked there and its just gross.
The park I work at over the summers is owned by Cedar Fair and I would never want to work at Cedar Point.
 
I never had any problems with Price Management security. As long as I was polite to them they were always polite to me. They actually went pretty above and beyond as far as I was concerned, they always walked me home from the front gate if I'd had too much to drink and my non-Vista friends had to drop me off. Being a PM security guard is a pretty thankless task and I don't think any of them were ever half as rude as CP's were to them. They're working pretty long shifts themselves, if you get annoyed when they aren't super polite to you after an 8 hour shift, don't you think they'll get annoyed if you aren't polite to them after they've been working an 8 hour shift as well? And there are plenty of CP's who are total jerks to them, I certainly don't think all CP's are worthless but they aren't all angels either. Those security guards don't make the rules they just get paid to enforce them, just like none of us made the decisions at Disney, we just ended up being the ones the guests yelled at when they didn't like those decisions.
And good luck to anyone who thinks they can find an apartment in Orlando that would comfortably house 5 people for $500 a month total, even one bedroom apartments run for over $600 usually and that's before utilities.
 

Bug715

Member
I never had any problems with Price Management security. As long as I was polite to them they were always polite to me. They actually went pretty above and beyond as far as I was concerned, they always walked me home from the front gate if I'd had too much to drink and my non-Vista friends had to drop me off. Being a PM security guard is a pretty thankless task and I don't think any of them were ever half as rude as CP's were to them. They're working pretty long shifts themselves, if you get annoyed when they aren't super polite to you after an 8 hour shift, don't you think they'll get annoyed if you aren't polite to them after they've been working an 8 hour shift as well? And there are plenty of CP's who are total jerks to them, I certainly don't think all CP's are worthless but they aren't all angels either. Those security guards don't make the rules they just get paid to enforce them, just like none of us made the decisions at Disney, we just ended up being the ones the guests yelled at when they didn't like those decisions.
And good luck to anyone who thinks they can find an apartment in Orlando that would comfortably house 5 people for $500 a month total, even one bedroom apartments run for over $600 usually and that's before utilities.

I totally agree with you! I never had a problem with Price Management. They wern't as nice as that long meeting on move in day said they were but I never had one of them be rude to me. Yea good luck finding rent in that area for that cheap! At a presentation last week my recruiter said how much rent was in the area by Program housing and it was way more not even including utilities.
 
I actually miss having such tight security. Orlando can be such a sketchy place. I wish the security guards at my gated apartment complex would be as serious as Price Managment security.
 

Bug715

Member
I actually miss having such tight security. Orlando can be such a sketchy place. I wish the security guards at my gated apartment complex would be as serious as Price Managment security.

I'm about to move back down and want a place that tight to get into but I doubt I'll be able to afford somewhere like that. Does anyone know somewhere that has decent security for not much in the area?
 

joanna71985

Well-Known Member
I never had any problems with Price Management security. As long as I was polite to them they were always polite to me. They actually went pretty above and beyond as far as I was concerned, they always walked me home from the front gate if I'd had too much to drink and my non-Vista friends had to drop me off. Being a PM security guard is a pretty thankless task and I don't think any of them were ever half as rude as CP's were to them. They're working pretty long shifts themselves, if you get annoyed when they aren't super polite to you after an 8 hour shift, don't you think they'll get annoyed if you aren't polite to them after they've been working an 8 hour shift as well? And there are plenty of CP's who are total jerks to them, I certainly don't think all CP's are worthless but they aren't all angels either. Those security guards don't make the rules they just get paid to enforce them, just like none of us made the decisions at Disney, we just ended up being the ones the guests yelled at when they didn't like those decisions.
And good luck to anyone who thinks they can find an apartment in Orlando that would comfortably house 5 people for $500 a month total, even one bedroom apartments run for over $600 usually and that's before utilities.

Agreed! I never had any problems with security.
 

kcw

Member
However, Cedar Point does not have price management. You ask ANY CP, I will bet that ANY CP will tell you a story or two about the rude security. So I like to know if our rent money ACTUALLY goes to the rent, or does it go to security's paychecks.

Sorry, but it looks like you're in the minority here. I never once had an issue with security- in fact, when my family came out to visit, they came to Chatham to see my apartment, and security let my little sister in, even though they technically shouldn't have (I don't remember if she was too young, it was too late at night-- it was something though)


I also can't stand their mail system. I get an important package that has money in it. I need that package. But I have to wait till they 'sort it out'. And by the time they are done, I am off to work - which defeats the purpose of the package when I needed that money for either gas in the tank or food in the tummy. And yes, this happened to me twice.

So you want people working the mail to put their whole sorting system on hold so that they can fish our your package and get it to before they deal with everything else (and in the time that you're not working, which is most likely the time that they're not working too)...... ;)



- and if you ask any full-timer, most knows that CPs get ripped off. What I do mind is P.M., which runs those apartments. And I can almost guarantee every current or former CP - no matter their love/hate toward their program, can shed some light over at least one bad experience with P.M.

actually, most full-timers will tell you how easy CP's have it, and how much they detest the company slowly being taken over by CPs.... and again, be careful about your generalization


As for the cost of apartments, they are a fantastic deal--- not only is it cheaper than what you'd normally find, it is in a great part of town, it is close to the parks, and you have a free transportation system if you would like it.

And as for pay, I've never understood that one either. No, it's not fabulous, and yes, I took a pay cut when I headed out there on my CP, BUT I never had any money issues on my program. I sure didn't make any money, but I didn't lose any either. We (all of my roommates too) always had plenty of food to eat, and we were never living on the "ramen noodle" diet. We all went out to restaurants fairly often, we brought home PLENTY of souvenirs. (I have two stuffed full bags of Disney scrapbooking stuff...... and I don't even scrapbook! :lol:)

However, I will throw in there that none us drank or partied, and never went to PI. And I would guess that for many of CPs who said they couldn't make ends meet- PI was where all their money ended up
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
That's disturbing!:dazzle:


And I probably was one of the few CPs who never went to PI.:lookaroun

True. Maybe a little TOO literal. :lookaroun

How about...
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I can easily say that a lot of my money as a CP went towards going out. Not neccearily towards going to PI but it still went towards going out. But I still managed to live and have enough money to pay my tabs. So I don't by the crap where CP's say they only had enough to live and eat ramen noodles. I managed to eat and to go out and have fun and I have a hard time believing that other CP's couldn't do the same.
 

joanna71985

Well-Known Member
It is very possible to save money on the CP. Even when I was just there for the summer, I was still able to bring home some money (almost $1000).
 
I do think it's possible to save money, I never did but I can easily see how I could have if I hadn't gone out as much. And not necesarily gone out as in drinking and partying, but gone out as in spent time eating out in the parks or going to Universal and that sort of thing. There were plenty of times I was a little short during the week but I can't really blame the CP for that.

And I don't understand the issue with the mail, They ran similar hours to a post office. If you'd had a package waiting for you at the post office it wouldn't have been much different. I think the hours for sorting mail were like 2-4 or something? Which isn't that awful and they're posted so that you know they aren't available during those times.
 

khelinski

New Member
I loved my program, I hated Price Management. Everyone has their own experiences and perceptives. Mine wasn't all bad at all (I was actually lucky), but I still hated Price Management. I didn't start hating them until I extended - and from there, I got irritated. :hammer:
 
I think sometimes people have unrealistic expectations about things like Price Management or even the powers that be within Disney's College Program. I can't say they never did anything that irriatated me or that it wasn't frustrating at times, but that's life. The management at my apartment complex now gets on my nerves at times, campus housing can suck as well. There are inconvienances to everything in life, paying under 300 dollars including utilities is such a deal that I'd gladly deal with Price Management if I could as a non-CP. Paying real world rent sucks.
 

khelinski

New Member
I think sometimes people have unrealistic expectations about things like Price Management or even the powers that be within Disney's College Program. I can't say they never did anything that irriatated me or that it wasn't frustrating at times, but that's life. The management at my apartment complex now gets on my nerves at times, campus housing can suck as well. There are inconvienances to everything in life, paying under 300 dollars including utilities is such a deal that I'd gladly deal with Price Management if I could as a non-CP. Paying real world rent sucks.

People do tend to have high expectations, esspeially with a place like Disney which upholds its standards very highly. I think, with all that I seen and experience, it really comes down to what you take from it. However, for whatever the case maybe, the fault CAN be placed at powers that be.

And indeed, real world sucks. What's interesting with Disney is you have to put on a fantasy show, while dealing with real world scenarios. That's not always easy.

What I have placed in front of you isn't 'oh, boo-hoo'. I simply just gave you my perceptive from what I experienced/seen/heard. I will once more say, being a CP at Disney was the best year of my life. But there are negative aspects to it, and awareness is imperative.

It's amazing how much they expanded with this wonderful program. It shows Disney takes pride in it (for both the pros and cons). First, there were trailers (yes, in case some future CPs aren't aware, CPs housing were trailers).

Then came Vista. Understandable why P.M. was brought in to take over Disney's care of the housing (back in the hey-day - Disney controlled it - and back in the hey-day, Vista was quite more 'liberal' than it is now).

Vista has a rep of being a little, 'party-esque'. Rumor has it (just rumors among CPs - don't know if there is any concert truth by it) that Vista once ranked in Playboy's top party spots).

I lived in Chatham. At first, I was with five other roommates. Got a little crazy, didn't care about dishing out extra money - so I jumped apartments to an-one room apartment. From then on, that apartment was my home to quitting time (was there for 10 months).

I have no complaints to the apartment itself. I was spoiled with the net, cable, and all the other goodies that apartment had. Had a few roommates (mostly international). No problems whatsoever.

My resentment didn't come until near the end of my program, when I started having issues with security being rude while I showed my ID to get into the apartment (happened on numerous of occasions). But there were some that were nice. I guess it's a random shuffle. There was also an issue about parking in front of Vista, which I got ed off at (long story short, when dropping someone off, you can't park in front of the gate, outside the gate, the holy parking across from the gate, or anywhere near the gate - just for a second, to drop/pick someone up :lol:).

And of course - the final straw was when I had to wait 45 mins outside my apartment for security to open up my apartment door (when your roommates depart your apartment, they change locks). When I started a year ago - they had key spares on them, and distributed them accordingly, when you needed a new key for that very reason. But since then, they changed it (without notice, of course), which is what got me real ed off more than anything.

What these security don't know - people are sneaking into the apartments (either jumping the fence, or hiding in trunks). Girls are being rapped randomly between Vista and Chatham walk-ways (true stories). And apparently, there is a big drug thing in Commons (not sure if there is any truth to that, but there will always be a conflict of international/national laws, and people from different countries that isn't use to our laws).

With all of that said, while some of what you said is understandable (though the mail part is something I still bitched about, I do understand what you are saying), and indeed, CPs are spoiled on certain things - however, you truly have to look at the other side of the coin here.

And by the way, for some - it may be easy to save. But I knew a girl personally, whom came from a poor family - whom struggled living on check to check. She didn't had much money to start with, and didn't really have enough to balance everything. She rarely partied, or had any money for entertainment.

Yes, I spent money on stupid ________, instead of saving. And something my manager said to me, which I will never forget. We live in a time where we want everything NOW, without earning it. We live in a time where we are spoiled rotten, and don't really have much appreciation for the small things nowadays (one of the reasons why other countries resent America so bad, among other reasons *coughs*)

However, for some, it's rather difficult to save. Even if you play it smart, some just don't know how to balance.

I like discussing (and hearing) both sides here. It shows that this forum isn't sugar-coating 'fantasy-land'. For some, it is just that. For others, it's a harsh reality to reality. It's what your attitude will bring to it. And it's what you take from it.

And for most, it will be something they will never forget (the good and the bad).
 
I'd be interested to hear the budget and schedule of someone who says they couldn't afford to live on the college program. Because as long as I worked my full schedule I always had a decent paycheck after rent. Not steller, but decent. And if I knew I needed more money I could always pick up overtime. And as a CP I saved a fortune on not driving too and from work so that equaled extra spending money right there. I don't mean that in an argumentative way, I just mean that I never had a major problem with money on the CP so I'd be curious to know what the difference was between my budget and someone who didn't think the money was enough.
 

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