No! I Don't Want to be on YouTube!

[SirWillow]

what is your youtube channel called?

Sir Willow- Confessions of a Theme Park Worker. The "Sir Willow" part should be very easy to find.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Sir Willow- Confessions of a Theme Park Worker. The "Sir Willow" part should be very easy to find.

cool. i will give your channel a looksy

 

[Tanna Eros]

Sir Willow- Confessions of a Theme Park Worker. The "Sir Willow" part should be very easy to find.

I recognize your face! I've seen your vlog, it's not intrusive on the general public at all. Your viewpoint is helpful, especially how not to be an awful guest.

 

[NickMaio]

Can't be any worse than the millions of people taking photos/home videos in the park with you in the background somewhere. You're probably in a lot of people's photos and home videos and don't even know it.

I marched in the Main Street parade 4 times during my High School band time. I often wondered how many photo albums I'm in from that. I never saw so many cameras, lol.

There is a difference in being in someone's photos and being posted on YouTube while a blogger takes in a wild income from said video.

 

[JustAFan]

We take a million pics on a Disney trip and like to look back through them often. Sometimes it's fun to see what other people are doing. I often wonder how many other people's vacation photos I'm in and what I look like in their pics.

 

[SirWillow]

There is a difference in being in someone's photos and being posted on YouTube while a blogger takes in a wild income from said video.

"Wild income" LOL outside of a very small handful of people, they aren't making "wild incomes" from their youtube videos. The vast majority do it for their own fun and pleasure as they aren't making money (or very little of it) from YouTube. Don't fall for the "it's easy to get rich off of YouTube" myth.

 

[Chef Mickey]

99.9% of the people doing anything for YouTube will post of a video only for it to be accidentally or partially watched by probably fewer than 1,000 people.

People waste a lot of time repeating already done videos, reactions, and "how tos" for a very small amount of attention and likes.

Utter waste of time.

 

[flynnibus]

Keep in mind, when you go to Disney you agree that your image and likeness can be used in any publicity video, photos or other items that may happen in the parks while you were there. That includes vloggers which Disney uses as free publicity.

No, you agree that DISNEY can use your likeness. Do not suggest that this blanket agreement somehow equates to explicit consent to vloggers, etc.

They can use their video for other reasons... but agreeing to Disney's terms is no where near agreeing to consent to vloggers.

On top of that, when Disney does actual production, they generally post notices as well.

 

[flynnibus]

I've always wondered how that worked. I get the fact that your admission allows you to be filmed / photographed etc by Disney for Disney's use. Also understand that you can be filmed in public by pretty much anyone. But Vloggers monetize their vlogs. So if you are in a frame of footage that is being used - and someone is being compensated for that footage. How exactly does that work?

It's an honest question. I really don't know.

It's a complex topic... but this conversation mostly boils down to the person's right to control the use of their likeness and 'publicity' vs your expectation of privacy out in public. Basically, out in the public you do not have the right to expect yourself to be incognito or excluded from any photography. So when you are seen, photographed, etc.. you can't stop that nor control your inclusion as part of the larger subject matter. Think of it simply as... 'your seen in a crowd' you can't say much of anything.

But... you still control the use of your likeness and use for publicity. So I can't take a photo of you or Will Smith in DL.. and then use it to promote DL as if you were endorsing it. So in very lay terms... I can photo you as part of some other larger focus.. and include you.. but I can't use your captured likeness or identity as a way to promote or infer your support. I can't take a photo of you drinking a coke bottle and then suggest you are a fan of the product and promote coke with it.

There is also the idea of disclosing private information... but the idea you are at some location open to the public isn't covered by that. Generally private facts are things that are expected to be 'not generally known', 'not newsworthy', and other criteria based on state law.

 

[NickMaio]

"Wild income" LOL outside of a very small handful of people, they aren't making "wild incomes" from their youtube videos. The vast majority do it for their own fun and pleasure as they aren't making money (or very little of it) from YouTube. Don't fall for the "it's easy to get rich off of YouTube" myth.

I can think of 5 where their sole income is from wDW YouTube. Wild income.......from making and posting videos. Any income where 1 person can live in a single home from making a couple of videos a week is considered wild to me, considering what they do to earn this income.
There are not that many WDW vloggers and youtubers out there.
I personally know 5 different people whose sole income comes from youtube add revenue. 1 person just purchased, with cash, his $40,000 dream car.
There is plenty of money to be made off of youtube. You just don't know any of them.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Sir Willow- Confessions of a Theme Park Worker. The "Sir Willow" part should be very easy to find.

Aha, I thought your profile picture looked familiar! One of your videos was very useful when I was trying to explain to my wife the phenomenon of ...umm, how to put this lightly? Why planning a Disney trip outside the usual season for Brazilian touring groups might be a good idea.

 

[SirWillow]

I can think of 5 where their sole income is from wDW YouTube. Wild income.......from making and posting videos. Any income where 1 person can live in a single home from making a couple of videos a week is considered wild to me, considering what they do to earn this income.
There are not that many WDW vloggers and youtubers out there.
I personally know 5 different people whose sole income comes from youtube add revenue. 1 person just purchased, with cash, his $40,000 dream car.
There is plenty of money to be made off of youtube. You just don't know any of them.

5.

I know over 30 people personally making youtube videos vlogging from the parks, plus another 30-50 channels that I'm aware of that do the same. None of which are making money.

Being aware of a small few does not mean that there are a lot of people making easy money hand over foot. It means that there a a very few that have worked their tails off over several years to get where they are. And thinking that it's easy is just ignorance of all that is involved in filming, production, editing, promotion, and much much more that goes into it.

But tell you what- if it's so easy, go ahead. Put together your channel, produce your videos, build your subscriber base and make your lots of money, then tell me how easy it is.

 

[NickMaio]

5.

I know over 30 people personally making youtube videos vlogging from the parks, plus another 30-50 channels that I'm aware of that do the same. None of which are making money.

Being aware of a small few does not mean that there are a lot of people making easy money hand over foot. It means that there a a very few that have worked their tails off over several years to get where they are. And thinking that it's easy is just ignorance of all that is involved in filming, production, editing, promotion, and much much more that goes into it.

But tell you what- if it's so easy, go ahead. Put together your channel, produce your videos, build your subscriber base and make your lots of money, then tell me how easy it is.

I am not really sure why you believe that I think it is "easy" - - - - I never wrote this nor implied it. My statement was that there are many people making a living off of youtube.
It is not just people making videos with 1000 viewers.

 

[Darth Figment]

Steal the show , let some fries drop outta your mouth, or maybe leave the bbq sauce on your face. Just go for the big one , stick that finger in the nose !!! 1 of 2 things will happen , they will use , or they wont . But it would be funny !!!

 

[jloucks]

But... you still control the use of your likeness and use for publicity. So I can't take a photo of you or Will Smith in DL.. and then use it to promote DL as if you were endorsing it. So in very lay terms... I can photo you as part of some other larger focus.. and include you.. but I can't use your captured likeness or identity as a way to promote or infer your support. I can't take a photo of you drinking a coke bottle and then suggest you are a fan of the product and promote coke with it.

Very well said.

Said even more simply, once somebody starts making money off your likeness specifically, everything gets more complicated.

...unless you give consent. Which you likely did when you go into WDW.

But that consent is only to Disney, not to independent vloggers, movie makers, etc.

 

[The_Jobu]

I just want to make sure I don't have to send John Stamos any money after taking a very blurry picture of him at the Grand Floridian.

 

[Kamikaze]

Keep in mind, when you go to Disney you agree that your image and likeness can be used in any publicity video, photos or other items that may happen in the parks while you were there. That includes vloggers which Disney uses as free publicity.

Any time you are in public, you have no expectation of privacy.

 

[Kamikaze]

I agree with your sentiment. But that's not necessarily how these things play out. You get a vlogger interacting with someone. Let's say its a drunk dude at EPCOT that is totally out of control and "makes" the vlog. The thing goes viral and the vlogger makes $10k off of views/ads Does the drunk guy have a case?

No.

 

[Vacationeer]

Personally (with having a basic understanding of laws surrounding this issue and not reading their entirety in current form), I have this expectation in WDW for myself and family:

My likeness can be broadcast by anyone as long as I'm not the focus of scene, or I'm not "upstaging' the scene unintentionally.

If a vlogger captures me in the background eating my hotdog, ok. If I drop the topping all over myself or do anything to become a distraction to the scene and there's a reasonable possibility that viewers could focus on it, then it's the broadcaster's responsibility to cut that part or censor my image to not be identifiable.

This is not possible during live-streaming, so more caution needs to be taken by the broadcaster. As long as the broadcaster is performing due diligence to avoid such things, then it's acceptable if something slips past unintentionally. If it becomes a pattern of slips, it needs to be addressed/reported/whatever. If they never show concern or are using these unaothorized images to gain interest and profit, it is a big no-no and they crossed the legal line.

 

[jloucks]

I agree with your sentiment. But that's not necessarily how these things play out. You get a vlogger interacting with someone. Let's say its a drunk dude at EPCOT that is totally out of control and "makes" the vlog. The thing goes viral and the vlogger makes $10k off of views/ads Does the drunk guy have a case?

Most likely yes, if the drunk person is identifiable.

...which is why smart bloggers blur faces of key subjects. If they are smart. Or just get a release signed.

Good news for vloggers, it is real easy to blur faces and keep all that sweet sweet cash for yourself.

Fun fact. If you are the identifiable drunk guy, you get paid forever from entities using your vomit footage. Based on the tv show Ridiculousness, it is about $300 a pop!

Get caught pooping in a bush? $300 a showing. Licking a dogs butt? $300. Eating an insanity pepper? $300.

...you get the idea...

I assume it is the same for all clip shows.

Which is also why I suspect 50% or so of all wacky candid videos are not at all candid. Staged for clicks and cash.