No! I Don't Want to be on YouTube!

Larry Mondello

Well-Known Member
Has this been mentioned already?


I like Disney; I like Vlogs. What I don't like is being in them. But! This is my fear. Last time I was in Disney World, someone was live streaming on Main Street. Or when I watch food reviews on YouTube, I feel so bad for the people behind the reviewer. This is my nightmare. I'm eating food like a cavewoman, and a vlogger is in front of me. Does anyone else feel like that?

Relax, I'm pretty sure that no one find you interesting.
 

JIMINYCR

Well-Known Member
Heyyyy... Maybe I'll get discovered and get my big chance to be a star!!! Keep right on filming while I pack my bags for Hollywood.
 

Orangeanna

Active Member
I worry more about the cars with dash- came and other video( and audio) recording. While I'm belting out "Journey" songs from the 80s I'm being recorded? Ugh! I don't think I'm interesting either but I do think I look like a fool and that's good enough for YouTube and a few weeks of humiliation. The singing was just an example. I'm sure I do plenty of other stupid stuff. I duck all cameras at Disney bc I don't photograph well. Really. The camera hates me, it tries to kill me in my sleep. Please don't film me, you'll have to edit me out for your own good. You've been warned.
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
Has this been mentioned already?


I like Disney; I like Vlogs. What I don't like is being in them. But! This is my fear. Last time I was in Disney World, someone was live streaming on Main Street. Or when I watch food reviews on YouTube, I feel so bad for the people behind the reviewer. This is my nightmare. I'm eating food like a cavewoman, and a vlogger is in front of me. Does anyone else feel like that?

From what I've seen in vlogs, live streams and the like, 9 times out of 10 the person with the camera has it super close to them and their party while they're eating so the people behind them arent in the shot.
 

disney4life2008

Well-Known Member
Actually it's much worse. There are youtube pages that take videos of people in scooters, overweight people, people eating, etc. And post them on YouTube.
 

Mickey5150

Well-Known Member
No one can go into WDW, take pictures or video and monetize from it without permission from Disney. The only reason vloggers can get away with it is that it's not worth Disney's time and money unless the vloggers is doing something that hurts the company. When you pay to enter private property you allow Disney to use you in any film or photos but not to be used in anyone elses monetized films or pictures.
 

SirWillow

Well-Known Member
No one can go into WDW, take pictures or video and monetize from it without permission from Disney. The only reason vloggers can get away with it is that it's not worth Disney's time and money unless the vloggers is doing something that hurts the company. When you pay to enter private property you allow Disney to use you in any film or photos but not to be used in anyone elses monetized films or pictures.

Not exactly true. Having had a few conversations with Disney legal about this and how it works and their attitudes about it, since I am one of those said vloggers...

Disney has told me directly that as long as I am not interfering with daily operations, not violating NDA, not interfering with guests and their enjoyment of the parks or intruding upon them, and not smearing/ slandering/ making the company look bad/ etc, then I can operate on property and they unofficially will consider me there as with permission of the PR/ marketing as part of that, which in their opinions means that Disney's rights as far as video/ photography of guests applies as well as long as I do not violate company policies and/ or cross any company lines and realize that Disney can revoke that permission and access at any time.

I'm quite sure that they've said essentially the same thing to others as well. I'm small fry. So I don't have some of the liberties that many of the larger vloggers do, (and they don't cover my admissions, food, or anything else like that) but it comes with the territory. And Disney can, and does, at times say what is ok and what isn't.

Disney realizes that while I might make a bit of money off of advertising, they are getting back more than that in value from the free advertising/ PR/ etc that I and other youtube channels provide. And as such they're willing to provide essentially a quip pro quo in exchange for letting vloggers film on property.

(oh, and yes, I do normally carry a copy of said emails with me when I'm in the parks, just in case there is a question, but no, I will not provide them to you because I don't want to make them available for others to edit/ photoshop/ make use of in ways they weren't intended. Hope that's understandable)
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
Not exactly true. Having had a few conversations with Disney legal about this and how it works and their attitudes about it, since I am one of those said vloggers...

Disney has told me directly that as long as I am not interfering with daily operations, not violating NDA, not interfering with guests and their enjoyment of the parks or intruding upon them, and not smearing/ slandering/ making the company look bad/ etc, then I can operate on property and they unofficially will consider me there as with permission of the PR/ marketing as part of that, which in their opinions means that Disney's rights as far as video/ photography of guests applies as well as long as I do not violate company policies and/ or cross any company lines and realize that Disney can revoke that permission and access at any time.

I'm quite sure that they've said essentially the same thing to others as well. I'm small fry. So I don't have some of the liberties that many of the larger vloggers do, (and they don't cover my admissions, food, or anything else like that) but it comes with the territory. And Disney can, and does, at times say what is ok and what isn't.

Disney realizes that while I might make a bit of money off of advertising, they are getting back more than that in value from the free advertising/ PR/ etc that I and other youtube channels provide. And as such they're willing to provide essentially a quip pro quo in exchange for letting vloggers film on property.

(oh, and yes, I do normally carry a copy of said emails with me when I'm in the parks, just in case there is a question, but no, I will not provide them to you because I don't want to make them available for others to edit/ photoshop/ make use of in ways they weren't intended. Hope that's understandable)
Didn't realize you were a blogger and now, after watching some of your vlogs, I understand why you were so sensitive when I made those Urban Legend comments.......some of those stories HAVE been around since the 70s.......
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
heh, not just a vlogger but a Photopass CM for 5 years. Helped build that program in the mid 2000's. 😁
My aunt worked in Disney in the late 70s, and both M&M went through the College Program in the mid '10s. My aunt is the one who was miffed when hearing so many of M&M's stories as the same stories had been around during her days there.......

The three of them agree most former Disney peeps find it taboo to share their experiences.......
 

bUU

Well-Known Member
And I get that. I'm not either. But I don't think its that cut and dry. Let's say that - that particular vlog quadrupled the vloggers audience from his normal views. And the factor that made that possible was the drunk dude at EPCOT. Now, there is nothing stopping anybody from filming a drunk dude at EPCOT, but if you had intent to make money off of that vlog, - the drunk dude could have a case.
Absolutely. Some incidental photobomb wouldn't rise to the level of humiliation outlined by the law; filming someone inebriated definitely would.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
I worry more about the cars with dash- came and other video( and audio) recording. While I'm belting out "Journey" songs from the 80s I'm being recorded? Ugh! I don't think I'm interesting either but I do think I look like a fool and that's good enough for YouTube and a few weeks of humiliation. The singing was just an example. I'm sure I do plenty of other stupid stuff. I duck all cameras at Disney bc I don't photograph well. Really. The camera hates me, it tries to kill me in my sleep. Please don't film me, you'll have to edit me out for your own good. You've been warned.
As long as you don't run any red lights/traffic signs and/or do what I like to call "stupid driving tricks*," you're safe from my dashcam.

*Examples:
  • right turn from the left lane
  • illegal turns
  • obvious loading issues
  • overtly aggressive behavior
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
I agree with your sentiment. But that's not necessarily how these things play out. You get a vlogger interacting with someone. Let's say its a drunk dude at EPCOT that is totally out of control and "makes" the vlog. The thing goes viral and the vlogger makes $10k off of views/ads Does the drunk guy have a case?

I very much doubt it, otherwise OJ could have sued CNN (or whoever) for filming the police chase that became iconic. Logically I'd say it's down to the person filming that the money is made for being there. In your example the drunk guy wasn't there to make money from getting drunk, the vlogger was (with or without Mr Drunk). The drunk guy couldn't have any expectation of making money by necking 20 beers and anything he does in public is therefore exhibited for free by him.
 
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Tanna Eros

Well-Known Member
Has this been mentioned already?


I like Disney; I like Vlogs. What I don't like is being in them. But! This is my fear. Last time I was in Disney World, someone was live streaming on Main Street. Or when I watch food reviews on YouTube, I feel so bad for the people behind the reviewer. This is my nightmare. I'm eating food like a cavewoman, and a vlogger is in front of me. Does anyone else feel like that?
I'm funny looking, so I feel the same way. I don't want to be seen, but it's not just the theme parks, it happens everywhere. It's become a very media life.
Yesterday I took my Scottie to the local city park: it looks like "Sunday in the Park with George" only with modern clothes. This place is a masterpiece. It was Homecoming weekend for a large local school in the area, so it's a big photoshoot. We spent half of our time ducking away from being in the background of photos, and the other half of the time letting kids pose with our dog. (I hope I get a year book.)

After a while of living in a world of cell phones, I just hold to the basic rule of "keep your face washed, and don't act the ." I'm going to end up in someone's life story anyway, just be as invisible as possible to prevent being the object of mockery.
 
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"El Gran Magnifico"

We are The Knights who say Nuuk
Premium Member
I very much doubt it, otherwise OJ could have sued CNN (or whoever) for filming the police chase that became iconic. Logically I'd say it's down to the person filming that the money is made for being there. In your example the drunk guy wasn't there to make money from getting drunk, the vlogger was (with or without Mr Drunk). The drunk guy couldn't have any expectation of making money by necking 20 beers and anything he does in public is then exhibited for free by him.

Thanks. That makes sense. Obviously I'm not a vlogger. Was just curious as to how those things work. Usually in a lot of cases there is a "release" which is part of the ticket contract with Disney. So they're covered.
 

BoarderPhreak

Well-Known Member
Here's a pap (paparazzi) trick. Do something to make the footage unusable... I'll leave it up to your imagination. 😉

Goes without saying, but don't make an @ss of yourself or it will have the opposite effect - and go viral. 😆
 
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SirWillow

Well-Known Member
My aunt worked in Disney in the late 70s, and both M&M went through the College Program in the mid '10s. My aunt is the one who was miffed when hearing so many of M&M's stories as the same stories had been around during her days there.......

The three of them agree most former Disney peeps find it taboo to share their experiences.......

There are most certainly a good number of stories that I don't/ won't tell. It really depends on what the story is, where it takes place, what's involved, and how backstage/ "not safe for magic" it is. Outside of my family, there are a few that I'll probably take to my grave other than sharing them with a few other cast members I worked with.
 

KevinPage

Well-Known Member
Has this been mentioned already?


I like Disney; I like Vlogs. What I don't like is being in them. But! This is my fear. Last time I was in Disney World, someone was live streaming on Main Street. Or when I watch food reviews on YouTube, I feel so bad for the people behind the reviewer. This is my nightmare. I'm eating food like a cavewoman, and a vlogger is in front of me. Does anyone else feel like that?
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