NFL 2019-20 Discussion Thread

Lilofan

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Guys, it was a rhetorical sarcastic question made in frustration during the last four minutes of Bengals v Browns game today. A game with horrible playcalling over and over again. The Bengals fired their head coach at the end of the last year thinking that he was the problem, all of the blame has been on Marvin Lewis the past few years. Well, Marvin Lewis isn’t here in 2019 and we are losing worse than when he was here, so obviously he wasn’t the problem.
You asked a question, you got an answer.
 

Tony Perkis

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Guys, it was a rhetorical sarcastic question made in frustration during the last four minutes of Bengals v Browns game today. A game with horrible playcalling over and over again. The Bengals fired their head coach at the end of the last year thinking that he was the problem, all of the blame has been on Marvin Lewis the past few years. Well, Marvin Lewis isn’t here in 2019 and we are losing worse than when he was here, so obviously he wasn’t the problem.
Don’t complain because people called you out on an obvious false hyperbole.
 

Tony Perkis

Well-Known Member
You just answered your own question.
Actually, no.

Why would Dalton purposely throw games so the Bengals get a draft pick that ultimately renders his use on the team mute?

Dalton was benched right after the trade deadline, which is a breach of trust from the Cincy management, since they could have traded him and didn’t prior to the benching.

Now, he’s taking orders from the team that benched him to tank to continue to tank for them to replace him.

You realize how dumb that sounds, right?
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
You just answered your own question.

So if I'm understanding this correctly....Dalton was throwing games at the start of the season...only to get benched.....and his replacement came in and the team were still losing games. Then they bring Dalton BACK in and he's tanking again?

I dont get the mindset that he'd purposely lose games knowing that they're set for the #1 draft pick which will ultimately replace him if they decide to draft a QB.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
The whole purpose of being the QB is to ensure you win enough games to not get the #1 pick. You do realize that Cincinnati will more than likely draft a QB to replace Dalton, right?


This was my post-

I’m reading that Dalton was “in on the plan” to throw games. I don’t believe that for one second. He wouldn’t do that.


Did you watch the game, btw? Especially the play calling in the red zone? If so, the charges of Dalton throwing the game may make more sense to you. Still wrong charge, but it was probably made in disbelief over the decisions that were being made during the game.
 
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Lilofan

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The Pats have lost 2 in a row. How low can the Pats go? Fox News is reporting the Pats were videotaping Bengals team sidelines when Bengals most recently played the Browns. The wording " unintended oversight" was used. With the Pats playing the Bengals next weekend, does one have to cheat to beat the Bengals?😄!!
 
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21stamps

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The Pats have lost 2 in a row. How low can the Pats go? Fox News is reporting the Pats were videotaping Bengals team sidelines when Bengals most recently played the Browns. The wording " unintended oversight" was used. With the Pats playing the Bengals next weekend, does one have to cheat to beat the Bengals?😄!!

I’ve recently learned my lesson to not discuss football unless someone is a football fan (the sport, the game, what’s happens on Sundays across the league, not just 1 team or 1 player).. So, I’ll pass on this one. Maybe oneofthree will take it.
 

kong1802

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The Browns up until this year...
There’s a reasons that Browns football is often synonymous with losing.
I mean, I see where you're coming from, but I think being a Brown's fan is more frustrating. They lose for years and years. Then, Art Model moved the team to Baltimore, and then the Ravens won the Superbowl in 2000 and 2012, in addition to great playoff runs in between, and now they're arguably the best team in the NFL. The Browns, meanwhile, went to the playoffs once, and have had only two winning seasons in the past 20 years. I mean, if I were a Brown's fan, that would be frustrating. The Bengals had winning seasons and have often been a thorn in the side of the Steelers and the Ravens.

To be fair, the AFC North is also an extremely competitive division, and every division game is always hard fought.


I was told recently that I made up the Browns = Loser joke..............lol

Glad others have watched football pre 2019.........
 

21stamps

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I was told recently that I made up the Browns = Loser joke..............lol

Glad others have watched football pre 2019.........

Apparently some people haven’t paid attention to the NFL since 2017. We’re currently in the second season of Mayfield as QB. He was drafted 2 years ago, in the first round, by the Cleveland Browns. I understand that life gets busy and football isn’t always a priority, but this is pretty much a well known occurrence to anyone who does pay attention to the sport.. or realizing that the Browns played the Bengals this past Sunday, and realizing horrible unbelievable play calling led to the Bengals loss... which led to the comments about Dalton, nothing to do with the division itself, just the game of football.
Someone wouldn’t even need to watch that specific game, there was plenty of highlights and commentary on all of the sports programs and during the other games that day. If someone did miss football altogether the past 2 seasons, then the comments here make a bit more sense... but I’m in 2019, not ‘17... although I would like to go back in time and be a little younger. ;)


I’d love to say “The Bengals are a good team because they went to the playoffs a few years ago!” Unfortunately, that’s not really how sports work, they’ve lost all but one game this season.. worst in the NFL, will finish last in their division for the second consecutive year.. so their past seasons are now irrelevant when talking about the team right now. Welcome to the world of sports. :)
 
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kong1802

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Apparently some people haven’t paid attention to the NFL since 2017. We’re currently in the second season of Mayfield as QB. He was drafted 2 years ago, in the first round, by the Cleveland Browns. I understand that life gets busy and football isn’t always a priority, but this is pretty much a well known occurrence to anyone who does pay attention to the sport.. or realizing that the Browns played the Bengals this past Sunday, and realizing horrible unbelievable play calling led to the Bengals loss... which led to the comments about Dalton, nothing to do with the division itself, just the game of football.
Someone wouldn’t even need to watch that specific game, there was plenty of highlights and commentary on all of the sports programs and during the other games that day. If someone did miss football altogether the past 2 seasons, then the comments here make a bit more sense... but I’m in 2019, not ‘17... although I would like to go back in time and be a little younger. ;)

You've got to be the first Cinci fan I've "met" that defends the Browns so vociferously. Perhaps that rivalry isn't what I think it is. I always assumed it was a rivalry, but maybe its more like the Jags/Bucs down here. Not really heated like FSU/UF in NCAAF.

But I'll join your cause. Let's free the Browns of the jokes at their expense. I'll start drafting the email to the internet, and you can help me send them out........
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
You've got to be the first Cinci fan I've "met" that defends the Browns so vociferously. Perhaps that rivalry isn't what I think it is. I always assumed it was a rivalry, but maybe its more like the Jags/Bucs down here. Not really heated like FSU/UF in NCAAF.

But I'll join your cause. Let's free the Browns of the jokes at their expense. I'll start drafting the email to the internet, and you can help me send them out........

I’m not defending the Browns at all, I’m just defending football knowledge. This convo reminds me of the people who say “OSU doesn’t play anyone!” , just because you heard something once, doesn’t mean that it’s applicable today. Teams change, schedules change, performance changes.
I hate that my team is horrible. Absolutely hate it, wish it was different- because we have the talent to have a much better record than what we have. Why would I be in denial about our record though and pretend that just because we were ahead of the Browns a few years ago, that it somehow makes a difference to where we’re at today?? It doesn’t make any difference. It’s absolutely stupid to pretend that it does. We’re in the 2019 season, no other year.lol
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
You've got to be the first Cinci fan I've "met" that defends the Browns so vociferously. Perhaps that rivalry isn't what I think it is. I always assumed it was a rivalry, but maybe its more like the Jags/Bucs down here. Not really heated like FSU/UF in NCAAF.

But I'll join your cause. Let's free the Browns of the jokes at their expense. I'll start drafting the email to the internet, and you can help me send them out........
It's not as intense as the Steelers/Ravens rivalry. Though, IMO, that rivalry has cooled because Steelers and Ravens fans share a hatred for the Patriots.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
It's not as intense as the Steelers/Ravens rivalry. Though, IMO, that rivalry has cooled because Steelers and Ravens fans share a hatred for the Patriots.


They all have their rivalries. Steelers and Browns is a huge rivalry, Bengals and Steelers is also a huge rivalry, our biggest game of the year.. mostly because of the playoff history of these two teams. The Browns and Bengals rivalry stems from Paul Brown and also being in the same state.

There’s so many rivalries within a division, and outside.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
The tides of football are rough, and ever changing. Rivalries are more heated/important some years over other years. I remember a time when the Browns were Cincinnati’s biggest rival, then they became somewhat of a non-factor, still rival, but the Steelers were more important, and the hatred for the Steelers was heavier than a Bengals’ fan’s hatred of the Browns.
It’s the one series that I personally cared about winning the most... until Baker Mayfield, now the Browns are back as our most important rival for me, maybe tied with the Steelers.. don’t know if I can say higher, but the level of dislike I have for Mayfield is indescribable. Lol
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
The tides of football are rough, and ever changing. Rivalries are more heated/important some years over other years. I remember a time when the Browns were Cincinnati’s biggest rival, then they became somewhat of a non-factor, still rival, but the Steelers were more important, and the hatred for the Steelers was heavier than a Bengals’ fan’s hatred of the Browns.
It’s the one series that I personally cared about winning the most... until Baker Mayfield, now the Browns are back as our most important rival for me, maybe tied with the Steelers.. don’t know if I can say higher, but the level of dislike I have for Mayfield is indescribable. Lol
Ravens fans don't like him either. Or Mason Rudolph.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Ravens fans don't like him either. Or Mason Rudolph.


I may be one of the few Cincinnati fans to say this, but my level of dislike for Mayfield is so much more intense than my level of dislike for Roethlisberger. I’ll never forgive him for (trying) to plant that stupid flag.
 

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