I'd say Jamie is the worst. Every time he say's something about the Packers, it's usually a year or two old. Warren is pretty bad, too. Just because they are former players doesn't mean they are good at evaluating a team.
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NFL 2014 Off-Season Discussion Thread
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Darelle Revis is on the Buccaneers trading block. To me, that would raise red flags as a potentially interested team. There's a reason why he was outcast from two teams within about a year. Maybe he hasn't fully recovered from his injury. Or maybe he's just not valued with the new regime. Either way, it would cause me to think twice.
Lucky
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What's the trade value of a 34 year old defensive lineman with an $18m salary cap hit?
Next to none. The Bears will probably end up cutting him, and I doubt he would see much interest on the FA market.
Louis Delmas has signed a one-year deal with the Dolphins. Miami is also the favorite to land OT Branden Albert.
Remember last season how Miami was the winner of free agency? Then they improved one game from the season before and again missed the playoffs. Draft-and-develop is the way to go IMO.
Remember last season how Miami was the winner of free agency? Then they improved one game from the season before and again missed the playoffs. Draft-and-develop is the way to go IMO.
Lucky
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Winner's curse
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The winner's curse is a phenomenon that may occur in common value auctions with incomplete information. In short, the winner's curse says that in such an auction, the winner will tend to overpay.
flynnibus
Premium Member
What we see now is the full realization of how Free Agency and the current CBC works out.
Everyone works to back-end load these contracts with the intent of minimizing the Cap impact during the most productive years full knowing they will cut the player before these monster numbers become real. The huge variation between rookie contracts and strong vet contracts... makes old players even more exposed because the salary risk on young players is lower than ever. The 53 man roster is a bigger thing to juggle when it comes to developing players than actual dollar risks.
So all these 'big' names get cut with even bigger contract numbers... making them more risky to take, while young players are less risky than ever.
We'll see this cycle for some years to come. "Thanks John, you've been an awesome player for us for the last three years, but we just can't fit this $15mil number we signed up for. So you'll either need to take a paycut or we're going to have to release you".
Look for less trades in the future.. and more signings.
Everyone works to back-end load these contracts with the intent of minimizing the Cap impact during the most productive years full knowing they will cut the player before these monster numbers become real. The huge variation between rookie contracts and strong vet contracts... makes old players even more exposed because the salary risk on young players is lower than ever. The 53 man roster is a bigger thing to juggle when it comes to developing players than actual dollar risks.
So all these 'big' names get cut with even bigger contract numbers... making them more risky to take, while young players are less risky than ever.
We'll see this cycle for some years to come. "Thanks John, you've been an awesome player for us for the last three years, but we just can't fit this $15mil number we signed up for. So you'll either need to take a paycut or we're going to have to release you".
Look for less trades in the future.. and more signings.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Easy philosophy when one has franchise quarterbacks to develop around. The Pack haven't had to face the quandary that most of these teams stuck in for a long time.
I don't see how free agency is going to fix the QB situation. Typically there aren't any big-name QBs out there to sign. I don't see Michael Vick as being a long-term answer.
That's just it. Free agency is full of overpriced, over-aged cast-offs. There's a reason why teams let them go.
Signings:
Branden Albert to Dolphins
Lamarr Houston to Bears
Donte Whitner to Browns
Karlos Dansby to Browns
Michael Johnson to Buccaneers
Jared Veldheer to Cardinals
Arthur Jones to Colts
Tyson Jackson to Falcons
TJ Ward to Broncos
Paul Soliai to Falcons
Antoine Bethea to 49ers
Other news:
The 49ers trade the Jaguars for QB Blaine Gabbert
Branden Albert to Dolphins
Lamarr Houston to Bears
Donte Whitner to Browns
Karlos Dansby to Browns
Michael Johnson to Buccaneers
Jared Veldheer to Cardinals
Arthur Jones to Colts
Tyson Jackson to Falcons
TJ Ward to Broncos
Paul Soliai to Falcons
Antoine Bethea to 49ers
Other news:
The 49ers trade the Jaguars for QB Blaine Gabbert
flynnibus
Premium Member
I'm not saying signing the QB is the fix... I'm saying it's easy to put all your efforts into other players when you have a reliable franchise QB you home grew. It's a luxury many teams don't have which has all kinds of impacts...
It's a lot easier to convince people to stay and for reasonable money when people think you are going to WIN. And having a reliable, top QB with a history helps promote that stability and promise.
It's extremely difficult to say 'we're gonna go organic only' because that means waiting 2-4 years AND being successful on where you placed your bets. No coach will survive more than one attempt at that these days.
The pack's roster is an anomaly in the league.. and it's one that is possible due to your last two quarterbacks' success.