NextGen/RFID news, info and experiences

flynnibus

Premium Member
I believe it is safe to assume that this particular technology is not going to just stop improving while the rest of the worlds technologies continues to change at a rapid pace.

The processors will get faster, the software will be updated, streamlined, replaced over time.

Yes, this new process will continue to improve just as the world continues to turn.

None of that happens for free - none of that happens during roll out.. those are UPGRADES. The customer experience listed here were all deficencies with the product as it's designed today. Excuses like 'well its not done yet' don't really fly here. Things like the physical point of sale terminals aren't going to wake up tomorrow with new physical capabilities. The transaction speed at the gates is not likely because the system isn't ramped up yet - it is what it is. The point of sale software is 'as designed' now.

These are all elements that have already been through their test phases and these are production. So what we see is what we get.

Is that to mean they can never improve? Of course not - those are future upgrades Disney may or may not invest in for a long time.

But the 'wait and see..' adage is past for these elements. They are live.. and apparently not so hot.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Uh no, there's just more people with paper tickets right now.

Which doesn't address the majority of his complaints..
.. and if the new turnstyles are so under utilized you expect them to get faster when they get more busy?? They should be even more streamline right now if under utilized...

And all tickets sold now are RFID - the only non-RFID park tickets are the legacy tickets purchased prior.. or APs who haven't upgraded yet.

My comment on that was in response to the previous posters "Not impressed" comment. Judging the whole thing as a whole when it's not done yet. Good grief.

Whole thing? No - but these elements are.. and we are seeing the live production product.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
What were you expecting to be impressed by? You're obviously a reader of this forum, where did you read that you're going to have a life-changing experience with the simple RFID stuff that's already been implemented? My comment was only to iterate that maybe we should give more time to be impressed.

maybe you should write a blog post for huffpost and let the world know how paying guests should be expected to turn a blind eye to the production system being used around them... set us all straight.
 

tissandtully

Well-Known Member
maybe you should write a blog post for huffpost and let the world know how paying guests should be expected to turn a blind eye to the production system being used around them... set us all straight.

Looks like I've got under your skin, you seem to remember me from thread to thread. Let it go.

Also, let's just agree that maybe we all are having different experiences? I haven't had the negative experiences you are mentioning with RFID.. maybe because I'm not some negative person who will be looking for them. That's not to say I'm not attentive or ignorant, I just haven't had these issues except for the ones dealing with the credit card swiping.
 

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
What were you expecting to be impressed by? You're obviously a reader of this forum, where did you read that you're going to have a life-changing experience with the simple RFID stuff that's already been implemented? My comment was only to iterate that maybe we should give more time to be impressed.
Quoting TWDC CEO Bob Iger at the Q1 earnings call talking about MyMagic+:
The product I tested was impressive, and is a stunning example of how we are using technology to make our products and experiences more accessible and more compelling.
It seems to me the $40 million man is expecting us to be impressed. He was.;)
 

luv

Well-Known Member
I was a paying guest last week. I'm not allowed to have an opinion on my experience with the turnstyles and payment system? I didn't judge the "whole thing" (whatever that even is/turns out to be), just my experience with what is running so far.

Again, it remains to be seen how things ultimately turn out...but as others have indicated, I'm not sure the system will somehow become faster, the readers will magically have the ability to swipe both ways, the readers will not tip over when swiping with a traditional magnetic strip, or there won't be problems with guests entering parks without their cards being read.
I think you're allowed to have an opinion. :)

Everyone gets to have an opinion, even if others don't agree. :)

I agree that Disney should have made swiping easier, but you do get the hang of it after a while. :)
 

luv

Well-Known Member
.. maybe because I'm not some negative person who will be looking for them.
I have been noticing a trend on the boards lately. If you have a hard time with something or don't like something, you are called a "negative person" and thus, your opinion is not only invalid, but deserving of ridicule. If you like it, you are a fan boy, which also brings dismissive ridicule.

Assuming that posters must be labeled like batteries (which really is NOT necessary, IMO), positive people can not like some things. Negative people can like some things.

Having a particular feeling about one thing or another does not define you as a person.

It would be nice if the discussion didn't turn into personal insults, but was more about the stuff itself.
 

tissandtully

Well-Known Member
I have been noticing a trend on the boards lately. If you have a hard time with something or don't like something, you are called a "negative person" and thus, your opinion is not only invalid, but deserving of ridicule. If you like it, you are a fan boy, which also brings dismissive ridicule.

Assuming that posters must be labeled like batteries (which really is NOT necessary, IMO), positive people can not like some things. Negative people can like some things.

Having a particular feeling about one thing or another does not define you as a person.

It would be nice if the discussion didn't turn into personal insults, but was more about the stuff itself.

Good grief. I wasn't trying to define you as a person. I'm sure you're lovely and well-rounded in all your opinions in real-life.
 

luv

Well-Known Member
Good grief. I wasn't trying to define you as a person. I'm sure you're lovely and well-rounded in all your opinions in real-life.
It wasn't about me. It was about someone else.

You aren't the only poster doing it.

I just pulled your post as the most recent example.

The personal insults just make it all less interesting to read and don't further anything except irritation and more insults. IMO.
 

tissandtully

Well-Known Member
It wasn't about me. It was about someone else.

You aren't the only poster doing it.

I just pulled your post as the most recent example.

The personal insults just make it all less interesting to read and don't further anything except irritation and more insults. IMO.
Anyways, sorry to derail a thread. How bout those wristbands?
 

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
Anyways, sorry to derail a thread. How bout those wristbands?
I'm still not sure when we're going to see them. Iger's been asked about MyMagic+ at several quarterly earning calls and for the last two, he's basically said: "They'll be ready when they're ready. We want to make sure we get it right." Most recently:
The goal is for us to roll out MyMagic+ at some point this year. It's at various levels of beta testing right now. We want to very careful that it is working absolutely right before we roll it out to the general public. There's no reason for us to rush it to market.
 

luv

Well-Known Member
The goal is for us to roll out MyMagic+ at some point this year. It's at various levels of beta testing right now. We want to very careful that it is working absolutely right before we roll it out to the general public. There's no reason for us to rush it to market.
Translation: "It doesn't work yet." It is good that they are waiting until it works, though.
 

tnemgif

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to share my experience with MyDisney Experience tonight.
First of all, I booked my vacation through a travel agent (I'm sure you can foresee problems already). There are 6 of us staying in 2 rooms, so we have 2 separate reservations and confiramtion numbers (more problems). We have already made dining reservations, but through 2 separate online accounts (whole story: we booked with AAA a while ago, then moved to another travel agent).

Tonight, I log onto MyDisney Experience to link my online account with my reservation. I am able to link one reservation, but I am told the other one can't be linked. I assume it has somehow linked to the online account of someone else in my party. After a few hours of disappearing and reappearing reservations on my account, coupled with the impossible task of merging dining reservations between multiple online accounts, I called Disney directly.

Of course the service was quick, efficient, and very helpful (as expected). The vacation agent was very caring, but extremely worried that I had screwed up royally (in a sweet way). She helped transfer my call to IT and stayed on the line until I was comfortable - more great service there. IT quickly explained, however, that we could fix this easily, which was somewhat true.

Through a borderline complex method, I could link other accounts into my account's itinerary and reservations. Unfortunately, there were a few steps, such as checking an item: "this person travels with me often" - I would have never figured this would be necessary. After checking this, that person is listed as a family member, rather than just a "friend." Once a family member, you can invite this account - via email - to view and be added to your itinerary. You must invite them using the email they used to sign up for their Disney account. Otherwise, you will just be making another entire profile, and more problems. Once this is done, that person must accept the invitation. Then, to share their itinerary with you and to add you to their itinerary, this person must repeat this process on their account. So imagine having 6 people in your party with 6 different accounts - I'm exhausted :p

After all of this, each account had multiple duplicates in their friends/family section (ie John Doe would be listed twice because the invite process created a second profile listing for him on my account). In order to delete the duplicate listing, I have to first remove the original John Doe from all reservations I may have already made. This is not complicated, but time-consuming. All you have to do is go to each dining reservation and change the guests. This step is necessary to delete the original John Doe profile, but also so that John Doe can see that he is a guest for this reservation - otherwise he may be able to see the reservation listed on my account (depending on your settings), but not that his account is linked to the reservation.

I'm sharing all of this because I see it being a major hurdle with Fastpass+. What happens if your accounts aren't linked correctly, but you made reservations for a ride for all of the accounts you thought were linked? Are those reservations going to work? How does the system decide who gets to make/change/cancel Fastpass+ reservations? What happens if my account shows a resort reservation for 4, but I am making Fastpass+ reservations for 6 (2 linked friends)? Seems that there are quite a few holes in the system that could be either frustrating or manipulated easily.


Here are the pros/cons of my experience. Obviously, there are some cons to the pros, and vice versa, but in terms of usability, I think this is a fair list.

Pros:
  1. Your resort reservation is totally independent of dining reservations. Cancelling/changing your resort reservation does not affect dining reservations.
  2. It is very easy to link reservations to your online account.
  3. The system updates very rapidly (within seconds).
  4. Technical support was great - fabulous really.
  5. Interface is fun and easy to use. It still is much more simple than it could have been.
  6. It is nice to have all of your reservations in one place and allow others to view your reservations and help make plans. The experience is fun and helps build excitement for the trip.
Cons
  1. Reservations can not be transferred between accounts, only linked.
  2. You can not change dining reservations - only cancel and re-reserve. I booked Hoop Dee Doo before upgrading to the dining plan. In order to place this on my dining plan, I had to cancel and re-book.
  3. After inviting another party member to view my itinerary, the system created a new profile for me on that person's account - even if they had already created one for me. This caused duplicate profiles and further problems with dining reservations and linked accounts.
  4. Only once - a linked account went missing from my account. Upon refresh, the account popped back up.
  5. My biggest complaint: There should be a consistent ID for each person/account using the system. The email invite system is very 2003, and prone to errors. Using a consistent ID for each account, like a Facebook ID, could solve many errors.
  6. The system doesn't care what your resort reservation is nor how many profiles you link to your account - seems problematic for Fastpass+
  7. The system/website is slow - holy cow - it's 2013, not AOL era.
  8. Little-to-no written technical support.
Tips
  1. Create all of your online accounts/links before making/inputting any reservations.
  2. Make all reservations on one account. Just do this - trust me.
(Sorry for the novel and/or if this is the wrong place - just hope some might find my experience helpful)
 

wdwgreek

Well-Known Member
Yikes Mymagic conversations seem to derail so quickly around here! Its almost as bad as a Star Warsland thread, Marval thread, or lord forgive an avtar thread. points of contention do bring out interesting conversations at least! :p

But serious question, if these bugs are still being experienced I see it safe to assume that they are considering this as still part of their “testing” phase? By late summer will a more solidified worked out version be available, like a 2.0 of the prototype?
 

nytimez

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to share my experience with MyDisney Experience tonight.
First of all, I booked my vacation through a travel agent (I'm sure you can foresee problems already). There are 6 of us staying in 2 rooms, so we have 2 separate reservations and confiramtion numbers (more problems). We have already made dining reservations, but through 2 separate online accounts (whole story: we booked with AAA a while ago, then moved to another travel agent).

Tonight, I log onto MyDisney Experience to link my online account with my reservation. I am able to link one reservation, but I am told the other one can't be linked. I assume it has somehow linked to the online account of someone else in my party. After a few hours of disappearing and reappearing reservations on my account, coupled with the impossible task of merging dining reservations between multiple online accounts, I called Disney directly.

Of course the service was quick, efficient, and very helpful (as expected). The vacation agent was very caring, but extremely worried that I had screwed up royally (in a sweet way). She helped transfer my call to IT and stayed on the line until I was comfortable - more great service there. IT quickly explained, however, that we could fix this easily, which was somewhat true.

Through a borderline complex method, I could link other accounts into my account's itinerary and reservations. Unfortunately, there were a few steps, such as checking an item: "this person travels with me often" - I would have never figured this would be necessary. After checking this, that person is listed as a family member, rather than just a "friend." Once a family member, you can invite this account - via email - to view and be added to your itinerary. You must invite them using the email they used to sign up for their Disney account. Otherwise, you will just be making another entire profile, and more problems. Once this is done, that person must accept the invitation. Then, to share their itinerary with you and to add you to their itinerary, this person must repeat this process on their account. So imagine having 6 people in your party with 6 different accounts - I'm exhausted :p

After all of this, each account had multiple duplicates in their friends/family section (ie John Doe would be listed twice because the invite process created a second profile listing for him on my account). In order to delete the duplicate listing, I have to first remove the original John Doe from all reservations I may have already made. This is not complicated, but time-consuming. All you have to do is go to each dining reservation and change the guests. This step is necessary to delete the original John Doe profile, but also so that John Doe can see that he is a guest for this reservation - otherwise he may be able to see the reservation listed on my account (depending on your settings), but not that his account is linked to the reservation.

I'm sharing all of this because I see it being a major hurdle with Fastpass+. What happens if your accounts aren't linked correctly, but you made reservations for a ride for all of the accounts you thought were linked? Are those reservations going to work? How does the system decide who gets to make/change/cancel Fastpass+ reservations? What happens if my account shows a resort reservation for 4, but I am making Fastpass+ reservations for 6 (2 linked friends)? Seems that there are quite a few holes in the system that could be either frustrating or manipulated easily.


Here are the pros/cons of my experience. Obviously, there are some cons to the pros, and vice versa, but in terms of usability, I think this is a fair list.

Pros:
  1. Your resort reservation is totally independent of dining reservations. Cancelling/changing your resort reservation does not affect dining reservations.
  2. It is very easy to link reservations to your online account.
  3. The system updates very rapidly (within seconds).
  4. Technical support was great - fabulous really.
  5. Interface is fun and easy to use. It still is much more simple than it could have been.
  6. It is nice to have all of your reservations in one place and allow others to view your reservations and help make plans. The experience is fun and helps build excitement for the trip.
Cons

  1. Reservations can not be transferred between accounts, only linked.
  2. You can not change dining reservations - only cancel and re-reserve. I booked Hoop Dee Doo before upgrading to the dining plan. In order to place this on my dining plan, I had to cancel and re-book.
  3. After inviting another party member to view my itinerary, the system created a new profile for me on that person's account - even if they had already created one for me. This caused duplicate profiles and further problems with dining reservations and linked accounts.
  4. Only once - a linked account went missing from my account. Upon refresh, the account popped back up.
  5. My biggest complaint: There should be a consistent ID for each person/account using the system. The email invite system is very 2003, and prone to errors. Using a consistent ID for each account, like a Facebook ID, could solve many errors.
  6. The system doesn't care what your resort reservation is nor how many profiles you link to your account - seems problematic for Fastpass+
  7. The system/website is slow - holy cow - it's 2013, not AOL era.
  8. Little-to-no written technical support.
Tips

  1. Create all of your online accounts/links before making/inputting any reservations.
  2. Make all reservations on one account. Just do this - trust me.
(Sorry for the novel and/or if this is the wrong place - just hope some might find my experience helpful)


No need to apologize IMO - this seems to be exactly the kind of post this thread was made for... also seems to confirm many of the fears I've had about this system.

Sorry... just don't want or need this. And don't want to have my options limited by the OCD planners who will (eventually) learn to maximize and exploit this system.
 

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom