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Rumor New Stroller/Wagon Rules and Enforcement - Effective May 2019
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TP2000
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As if on cue, the Me Generation of parents are angry about this and have started a petition and are complaining to the media. Of course they all claim their snowflakes have "Special Needs" and need a "quiet place" to glide around Disneyland in and only a big wagon can provide that accommodation for them. You aren't allowed to question them or else you are a meanie, and hateful, and bigoted, and also racist. 
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/...with-autism-special-needs-and-medical-issues/
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/04/...with-autism-special-needs-and-medical-issues/
SuddenStorm
Well-Known Member
Heard a lady in line yesterday loudly complaining about how her new Keenz wagon is getting banned from the park. I imagine City Hall is gonna have a fun summer between the stroller ban, smoking ban, and reservation system for Galaxy's Edge.
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
Don't forget the Loose Ice!!!!
mickEblu
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SuddenStorm
Well-Known Member
Paid $5 for a coke yesterday, and they couldn't give me a lid. Ridiculous.
Ismael Flores
Well-Known Member
so what did people do a year or two ago? How long have these keenz been around that all of a sudden people can't live without them?
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Exactly. But you are obviously hateful and racist for asking that.
I just checked Amazon, and these Keenz wagons are $400 each. 400 bucks!
Meanwhile, highly rated and cute umbrella strollers with sunshades are going for 22 bucks on Amazon.
Old Mouseketeer
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Not meaning to interfere with a gourmet thread of snark, but I think there is a potential solution. The idea that wagons are necessary for children with cognitive or sensory disabilties has not yet found its way into "the literature" (that means professional studies published in peer-related periodicals). And even if you have mainstream research about the need for quiet space for children and/or adults with these challenges, that does not guarantee that a mobile tented room is required. It will be interesting to see what the Disney Mom's panel had to say about this.
Note: I have cognitive disabilities, including high-functioning Aspergers. I have had to close doors at work where coworkers were playing loud music or being vocally boisterous. I'm familiar with sensory overload. I also know quiet corners in the Disney parks where I can relax and recharge. Opera House, anyone? Grizzly Trail. Hollywoodland. Launch Bay. Animation Lobby. The Texas Deck of the Mark Twain at the stern listening to the Whoosh...Whoosh of the smoke stacks (Heaven!).
Figments Friend
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Old Mouseketeer
Well-Known Member
Otherwise known as the 'wagon with a push bar'.
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Yeppers. And vapes aren't smoke! Comfort animals aren't pets. LOL
Note: I know people with real anxiety disorders who have comfort companions. I also know jerks who sneak their pets into Disneyland.
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
I can tell you right now that Disney Legal has written the scripts to be given to guest relations.
Note, the "stroller wagon" can't even get past security. And the Guest Relation CM's are ready to offer alternatives to any accommodation requests made by guests.
The obvious one, I want to bring in my "stroller wagon". Well, sorry, but for the safety of everyone, we cannot allow it, but let me ask you what specific types of accommodation can we provide... And offer quiet locations, the GAC return times, even an offer of the new Double Stroller.
But it looks like the rule will be strictly enforced. Disney knows that if someone gets a pass to bring it in, the magic words to get one will be shared through social media....
Just like how Disney had a Standing Electrical Wheelchair made for Segway users (4 wheels with a speed limiter). I truly feel for the few that truly had a need that the Stroller Wagon helped, and I presume someone is now trying to design a stroller that matches the maximum limit, and offers some of the features a stroller wagon offered, but looks somewhat like a traditional stroller.
Note, the "stroller wagon" can't even get past security. And the Guest Relation CM's are ready to offer alternatives to any accommodation requests made by guests.
The obvious one, I want to bring in my "stroller wagon". Well, sorry, but for the safety of everyone, we cannot allow it, but let me ask you what specific types of accommodation can we provide... And offer quiet locations, the GAC return times, even an offer of the new Double Stroller.
But it looks like the rule will be strictly enforced. Disney knows that if someone gets a pass to bring it in, the magic words to get one will be shared through social media....
Just like how Disney had a Standing Electrical Wheelchair made for Segway users (4 wheels with a speed limiter). I truly feel for the few that truly had a need that the Stroller Wagon helped, and I presume someone is now trying to design a stroller that matches the maximum limit, and offers some of the features a stroller wagon offered, but looks somewhat like a traditional stroller.
Cesar R M
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and battering ram bumper.Otherwise known as the 'wagon with a push bar'.
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Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
Found this, and it sounds good...
www.travelingmom.com
So a true stroller for special needs gets a pass. Stroller Wagons are NOT eligible for any reason. Sounds like Disney is willing to make special accommodations within reason, just certain things are not allowed for any reason, like Segways, and now Stroller Wagons.
Renting a Stroller at Disney vs. Bringing Your Own: What You Need to Know
Heading to Disney in 2023? We share tips about renting a stroller at Disney including new rules for third party services.
www.travelingmom.com
So a true stroller for special needs gets a pass. Stroller Wagons are NOT eligible for any reason. Sounds like Disney is willing to make special accommodations within reason, just certain things are not allowed for any reason, like Segways, and now Stroller Wagons.
Old Mouseketeer
Well-Known Member
Found this, and it sounds good...
Renting a Stroller at Disney vs. Bringing Your Own: What You Need to Know
Heading to Disney in 2023? We share tips about renting a stroller at Disney including new rules for third party services.
So a true stroller for special needs gets a pass. Stroller Wagons are NOT eligible for any reason. Sounds like Disney is willing to make special accommodations within reason, just certain things are not allowed for any reason, like Segways, and now Stroller Wagons.
The "stroller as wheelchair" red tape strip has been in use for years. Interesting note: A plaid I knew once told me that a stroller can be considered an assistive device for an adult who uses it as a mobility aid by pushing it around (like a walker). I also heard that they caught someone using a homemade version of the red tape strip--they printed it on their computer, but the icons were noticeably different.
Chris Jarrett
Member
Looks like the 31x52 requirements aren’t for total size but specifically 31 inches wide and 52 inches long. That’s a very important distinction and it should be interesting to see if they enforce it that way.
Ismael Flores
Well-Known Member
the 31x52 is the maximum size that they will allow, that is including wheels.
Emmanuel
Well-Known Member
A petition has been made to convince Disney to unban them citing that the keenz wagons fall within Disneys new Stroller size limit among other "reasons"
https://www.change.org/p/don-t-ban-keenz-stroller-wagon-from-disney-parks
https://www.change.org/p/don-t-ban-keenz-stroller-wagon-from-disney-parks
Darkbeer1
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They can petition as much as they want to. They will remain banned, even for special needs reasons.
If they don't like the policy, Six Flags, Seaworld, Cedar Fair and other places are currently options.
But Disney has studied the issue, and made their decision after a long internal debate. Whatever business Disney loses will be replaced by other guests, who will be happier guests due to the removal of the wagons.
SuddenStorm
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Remember the petition to keep Tower of Terror alive?
Yeah, me too. Change.org has gotta be the most useless site ever.