Kevin_W
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Cedar Fair had issues with a number of their Intamin coasters, if I recall. But that's been a long time and it's possible the company has improved.
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News New Space Mountain Coming to Tokyo Disneyland in 2027
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Cedar Fair had issues with a number of their Intamin coasters, if I recall. But that's been a long time and it's possible the company has improved.
cjkeating
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Without derailing the thread can you elaborate? From my observations downtime is normally related to weather or slow loading.
Friends I have within the UK/European theme park sector say Mack have great post purchase support, basically if there is a problem they will ensure it gets fixed even if the ride is decades old. Universal clearly has confidence in them as they have 3 coasters from them in Epic.
Intamin meanwhile just aren't interested once you've made the purchase and when they are getting spare parts for the ride can often seem impossible, some parts have a "99 year" lead-time as they literally don't know if or when you will get what you need.
Disney and Intamin don't have a great relationship either... just look how Vekoma have done all maintenance for Incredicoaster or Indiana Jones (at DLP). They seem to only ever go Intamin when no other manufacturer has a ride type they need and then they take care of all the maintenance and issues in house or with Vekoma support. Unless this Space Mountain is something very unique it makes so little sense to be Intamin and not Vekoma.
Absimilliard
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Mack has a unique issue with their wheel bogie design, where they need daily adjustments to prevent vibrations, even if the track is bent perfectly and no issues are present. Slinky Dog Dash has the same issue and it was present from day one. The other issue with Slinky Dog Dash: riders per hour. Its barely above half of what Big Thunder Mountain can do capacity wise.
I did hear that Compagnie des Alpes, owner of Parc Asterix, Futuroscope and the Walibi parks, are not buying anything from Mack currently. Pulsar at Walibi Belgium (Mack Power Splash) was one of the last ride they purchased in 2016. It is a very challenging ride to maintain and the park had to spend more time and money than they were expecting on the boats. Its also a very, very expensive ride to run: in addition to the LSM launch system, the ride was built in a natural pond with retaining walls, 4 pumps in the corner of those walls and 4 flood gates in the splash area. When the ride is cycling, the 4 flood gates are closed and the water pumps run at a slower rate, keeping the water level at a constant level, right under the running rails. In the brief moment, where the boat is high up on the back spike, the floodgates open and the water rise just above the running rails, allowing the boat to splash around. After that, the floodgates close, the pumps empty the excess water and repeat that every 2-3 minutes. This video focuses on the splash pool:
Seems like what you heard about Intamin long lead times for spare parts is a COVID thing, as it was an issue industry wide. Now, Universal, Compagnie des Alpes, United Parks are all very happy about their Intamin rides. Its not the same Intamin as 15 years ago. Intamin today has a great design team, great support network and great fabrication.
Vekoma is also not the same company they were 25 years ago. Six Flags had every issues in the world with their Giant Inverted Boomerang and Flying Coaster, yet here we are, Vekoma is doing amazing things for Disney and other parks. Vekoma today has a great design team, great support network and great fabrication.
Castle Cake Apologist
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SaveDinosaur
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Are they going to demolish the old Space Mountain building instead of integrating it into the new structures?
BasiltheBatLord
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I believe the entire old building is getting demolished.
They are.
SaveDinosaur
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That's cool and sad at the same time. It's cool that OLC is willing to spend so much on a new Space Mountain, but sad that Tokyo Disneyland is going to lose a historical building that was important to the resort's history. Anyway, this seems like an amazing remake!
Disney-Universal Fanboy
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Nobody wanted to change the name because we like them the way we did them Mountain
Joke joke maybe something like Space Mountain 2: Cosmic odyssey
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McMickeyWorld
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Disgruntled Walt
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So what are people's expectations for this as a roller coaster? Are we looking at something potentially better than DLP's Space Mountain? Obviously not Velocicoaster-level, but something in that family?
cjkeating
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Despite this reported to be an Intamin (why?!) I expect Cosmic Rewind will be the closest comparison when it opens.
McMickeyWorld
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Absimilliard
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On my way to Tokyo Disneyland for Space Mountain last day... Mixed feelings as it had an amazing run, but the future looks amazing for Tomorrowland.
It is not going to have a standard queue today as it is only virtual queuing with the anniversary pass and vacation package attraction tickets the only way to ride it.
It is not going to have a standard queue today as it is only virtual queuing with the anniversary pass and vacation package attraction tickets the only way to ride it.
BasiltheBatLord
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A cute send off from Space Mountain CMs today.
The wait time of 39 can be read in Japanese as "san-kyuu", an alliteration of "thank you".
The wait time of 39 can be read in Japanese as "san-kyuu", an alliteration of "thank you".
BasiltheBatLord
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PR video posted by OLC after the opening day Space Mountain closed permanently tonight.
Kind of crazy that this is going to take a whole three years to open when it already looks decently far along in construction.
Kind of crazy that this is going to take a whole three years to open when it already looks decently far along in construction.
Video of the last guests and CMs entering the ride
BasiltheBatLord
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Sharp-eyed person on Twitter noticed that old Space Mountain has already been erased out of this Coke ad.
BasiltheBatLord
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Construction is really moving along. Track is already placed inside the new structure.
Kind of crazy that there's still three years left before opening.
Kind of crazy that there's still three years left before opening.
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cjkeating
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This sounds a bit dark but I kind of can't wait to see them deconstruct the original Space Mountain... knowing there are two near clones of this and the new coaster will likely be superior kind of makes it feel okay?