New shots over the walls (August 19th)

[IWant2GoNow]

Not true.
As I've said, I'm not quite 100% on this, but look at the attached diagram.
See how much room is given to Dumbo and his circus theme?
Very possible that although some things have moved around, Dumbo/circus will still occupy at least that much land.
So, even though Dumbo has moved south, Casey can stay up north and still be within the Dumbo boundary.
(And ignore the Pixie Hollow part, obviously...)

Wow... that is quite a large portion for Dumbo. When I saw those blueprints the first time I refused to believe that Dumbo would take up all that space. That is... a LOT of circus...

If Dumbo is the TeaCups new neighbor does that mean the Speedway will have to be altered?

 

[Lee]

So... It's not a ride..?

Nothing I am seeing or hearing points to any ride in FLE east besides what is already known.
Look at it this way...
Not putting a ride in the east leaves more money for the west.
I'm thinking it's a fair trade.

From our insiders, given what you know or seen, do you feel that the planned changes still have that same sense of place and cohesive theme (i.e. a fantasy forest with themed buildings, trees, walkways, rivers, etc.) or does it feel a bit more jumbled/disconnected? Specifically talking about FLE west here. Thank you in advance if you can provide any insight.

Yes.
I believe it will still be a very lovely area. Maybe even more so....

What about a Villians play area?:shrug:

No. Don't think so.

 

[SeaCastle]

So... It's not a ride..?

Apparently not.

My educated guess is, again, Snow White mine train coaster in Fantasyland West, with Fantasyland East having some sort of central princess meeting location, or perhaps a stage venue for princess things. :shrug: (And that's a very uneducated guess.)

 

[Hakunamatata]

No. Don't think so.

Oh it was worth a try :ROFLOL:

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

Lee, another thing I may have missed: Is the Cinderella attraction out in the FLE West? Thanks :wave:

 

[Lee]

Wow... that is quite a large portion for Dumbo. When I saw those blueprints the first time I refused to believe that Dumbo would take up all that space. That is... a LOT of circus...

Yeah.
Remember a few hours ago when I said the rest of FLE east wouldn't necessarily be all circus/Dumbo....
Still trying to confirm, but that "necessarily" may turn out to be a key word, I'm afraid.:lookaroun

 

[DisneyParksFan1]

Ya know, I could have sworn I saw someone say there was going to be a ride.

 

[Lee]

Lee, another thing I may have missed: Is the Cinderella attraction out in the FLE West? Thanks :wave:

You mean the elaborate M&G in the huge chateau?

Ya know, I could have sworn I saw someone say there was going to be a ride.

I don't think anyone promised another ride in the east side...

 

[Captain Chaos]

Not true.
As I've said, I'm not quite 100% on this, but look at the attached diagram.
See how much room is given to Dumbo and his circus theme?
Very possible that although some things have moved around, Dumbo/circus will still occupy at least that much land.
So, even though Dumbo has moved south, Casey can stay up north and still be within the Dumbo boundary.
(And ignore the Pixie Hollow part, obviously...)

Lee, thanks.. I actually forgot how much land Dumbo was supposed to take up... Is it safe to say the area marked Pixie Hollo will now be part of the circus, or is that the area being re-imagined, or if the area being reimagined north of Dumbo??

Also, any more hints slowly coming into o you regarding the princess M&G and the replacements???

Actually, you answered semi.. Cinderella is out... Is Aurora out too or is her cottage staying?? Maybe a walk though like, gasp, jt suggested? OY!! LoL...

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

Juan said no living characters as the addition in FLE East so the Princess M&G (theoretically) would go elsewhere :shrug:

 

[Lee]

Lee, thanks.. I actually forgot how much land Dumbo was supposed to take up... Is it safe to say the area marked Pixie Hollo will now be part of the circus, or is that the area being re-imagined, or if the area being reimagined north of Dumbo??

Trying to confirm.

Also, any more hints slowly coming into o you regarding the princess M&G and the replacements???

The addition to FLE west?
No, not really.
THAT is one tough nut to crack.

 

[DisneyParksFan1]

Woah, okay, I'm REALLY lost...

Can someone please kind of bring me in the loop as to what the insiders have confirmed?

 

[RSoxNo1]

Not true.
As I've said, I'm not quite 100% on this, but look at the attached diagram.
See how much room is given to Dumbo and his circus theme?
Very possible that although some things have moved around, Dumbo/circus will still occupy at least that much land.
So, even though Dumbo has moved south, Casey can stay up north and still be within the Dumbo boundary.
(And ignore the Pixie Hollow part, obviously...)

Just to make sure I'm understanding the concept art, Dumbo isn't going to be oriented backwards, right? You enter the nextgen queue through the two dumbos, right? (This of course is assuming that it even resides in the place listed on this map).

 

[RSoxNo1]

Woah, okay, I'm REALLY lost...

Can someone please kind of bring me in the loop as to what the insiders have confirmed?

I'm sorry they're speaking in tongues. Look at Lee's post with the Magic 8 Ball. The other thing that's being said is that FLE will likely not be getting a ride. But the money saved there could be used elsewhere in the FLE expansion.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Trying to confirm.



The addition to FLE west?
No, not really.
THAT is one tough nut to crack.

Well since it is tough to crack, hopefully they have something very cool planned... As for the rest of the east part of the expansion, Dumbo could be the entire expansion pad??? If so, what else in dumbo is there that could fill the rest of the area making you and juan not like it?? :shrug: The circus is a big enough area... even if they tossed in a hedge maze of some sort in the remaining area, it has to be better than anything left in dumbo...

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

My guess is that FLE East is getting some sort of play area or walkthrough attraction and FLE West is getting a ride that will appeal to the whole family. Can anyone tell me that I'm correct here? :lol::shrug:

 

[Lee]

Just to make sure I'm understanding the concept art, Dumbo isn't going to be oriented backwards, right? You enter the nextgen queue through the two dumbos, right? (This of course is assuming that it even resides in the place listed on this map).

Forget where it is on the map.
It's going where it is on the art, down between Barnstormer and that bend in the Speedway.
The entrance is not through the middle. Looking at the front of the ride, Standby enters on the far right, Fastpass on the far left.

 

[DisneyParksFan1]

I'm sorry they're speaking in tongues. Look at Lee's post with the Magic 8 Ball. The other thing that's being said is that FLE will likely not be getting a ride. But the money saved there could be used elsewhere in the FLE expansion.

Thanks RSoxNo1,

I still could have sworn someone said there would be a ride of sorts. That the only matter was what type of ride it was or whether it would use Fastpass.

 

[SeaCastle]

To sum up what's posted here...

Belle's meet and greet, the Beauty and the Beast restaurant/Gaston's Tavern, and the Little Mermaid attraction are going forward as planned.

Cinderella's chateau, housing her and Aurora's meet and greet, are no longer part of the plan. The land for that is being repurposed to something that would reportedly be more appealing than a meet and greet. Dumbo is moving between the Tea Cups and Barnstormer, requiring the Indy Speedway track to be shifted slightly. Fantasyland West, including the area formerly alloted for Pixie Hollow, will be mostly carnival themed, but with something else not-nearly-as-exciting going in that area. Pixie meet and greet is presumably going to the Skyway station.

Did I miss something? :lookaroun

 

[Captain Chaos]

Woah, okay, I'm REALLY lost...

Can someone please kind of bring me in the loop as to what the insiders have confirmed?

DPF, this is what I am getting out of it, Lee and juan, hot or cold me on this..

1. FLE eastern expansion will see Dumbo's Circus as we all know.. The land will be a little south of where we saw it on the blue prints...

2. The tea cups will be on the cusp of the circus, and MAY or MAY NOT get a roof that is themed to the circus...

3. Casey Jr will be featured, but as a food stand north of dumbo...

4. The circus land will take up most of, if not all of the eastern expansion pad...

5. The area that was once going to be Pixie Hollow on the blue prints may be taken up by the circus or will be an expansion of a current franchise... Lee is trying to find out, juan, hot or cold or warm me if you know..

6. On the original concept art, Pixie Hollow was a large area, taking over Toontown, just north of Dumbo... This area may now be all part of the circus or a franchise that current is featured in the park... The area will not include a ride..

7. Cinderella lost her chateau, Aurora's may be going as well, but what ever is coming to that area will make up for lack of a ride in FLE east...

Jist of it so far??? LOL...