New Roundup Rodeo BBQ sit-down restaurant coming to TSL

Bocabear

Bocabear

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Matthew said:
looks brill, like the idea and theme... my toddler will love it!
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Which is exactly what we all want in a $50 per person sit-down table service restaurant?
an expensive restaurant with the Toddler as it's target audience?
Thank God the other table service restaurants thought about a range of audiences....
I love BBQ, but this will be a pass for us.
 
Indy_UK

Indy_UK

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Drdcm said:
I’ll take another sit down option at DHS. I’m not a fan of the other options… sorry sci-fi
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Totally agree. We went to Sci-Fi for the first time last trip and didn’t enjoy it at all. Atmosphere felt like a library and we couldn’t have a conversation. The service was stupidly slow. Easily 45 mins to get 2 burgers and a kids meal for them all to be stone cold and bland.

We won’t go again. Rather go and spend the same on a burger at Steakhouse 71
 
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Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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FigmentFan82 said:
I feel like most of the new restaurants have just been big open rooms, instead of trying to create the feel of different sections and areas
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It's to the detriment of locations like Be Our Guest (compare it to CRT or Akershus), but I think it's a case of Ops wanting a space that's easy for guests and staff to move around, shift tables and seating etc. Personally I prefer a set up like Liberty Tree Tavern which has a lot of tables, but you're not aware of it from where you sit.

Skipper Canteen would be at least one recent example against this, though it does have one big dining room that's also the least interesting place to dine in.
 
Marc Davis Fan

Marc Davis Fan

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Casper Gutman said:
It really shocks me how universally these boards condemn Dinorama, a far better designed and themed area, while many posters scramble to defend TSL. The fact that Toy Story is a legitimately great IP makes it worse, not better. Honestly, I think a lot of it is attributable to how reluctant folks are to acknowledge the Studio makeover, so anticipated, so delayed, so needed, was ultimately quite bad.
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I agree that TSL is weak from a design standpoint, and that DHS’s “makeover” was... limited... but there are also a few things worth teasing out here:

The three major things I dislike about Rino-Rama are: (1) regular guests usually don’t seem to understand it [because it’s not made clear enough, e.g., even something like a sign at the Dinoland entrance that reads “welcome to our small town where big fossils were discovered and the Dino Institute was founded,“ which might place Dino-Rama in more discernible context], they experience the land “literally,” as a cheap carnival that Disney plopped down, (2) I don’t have a desire to visit a cheap carnival, so there’s nothing aspirational about the premise, and (3) it’s ugly, IMHO.

I’m no fan of TSL, as it’s nowhere near what it could be in terms of detail/creativity/design, but to be fair: (1) as another poster mentioned above, people seem to get the basic premise that they’re shrunk down and among Andy’s toys [rather than thinking Disney built an amusement park land instead of a theme park land], and (2) that’s a more interesting/engaging/fun premise than “you’re at a cheap carnival,” and (3) its more integrated nature and color scheme makes it less ugly, IMHO.

As for DHS’s redevelopment, to give them a little slack: we do have to separate the budget restrictions from the creative decisions (e.g., Tomorrowland 1998 at DL was headed by one of Disney’s greatest Imagineers, but with an 80M budget for the entire land). Considering this, given the budget that teams were working with, the idea was to make SWGE (and in particular RotR) the spectacular, show stopping centerpiece, and then to add capacity elsewhere to balance it out. I certainly would not have wanted to pull any of the budget from SWGE to improve TSL or other smaller projects. And if the goal was to add a second land to cope with SWGE crowds, given the remaining 250M budget for that, the TSL concept seems like the best way to accomplish this. And I appreciate its attention to sightlines (e.g., the “yard fences”), etc. [This is oversimplified, because budgets were separated by project at the outset, but once decision makers determined that the park’s redevelopment would get the budget it did, I’d agree with the further decision to assign the amounts given to SWGE and TSL respectively rather than pulling from SWGE... and the TSL concept seems like the best way to add that capacity at that budget, per above discussion about Dino-Rama vs TSL.]

That being said, yes, I would have preferred a layout with additional nooks/crannies with details and places to sit, and I would have preferred more shade.

And of course, beyond the two land additions... yes, I would’ve loved to keep GMR and put MMRR into the Animation Courtyard... but I also understand why they thought putting a new major attraction in the Chinese Theater would be good for crowd flow (emphasizing the new attraction so that a percentage stop there rather than going straight to SWGE first), and I realize they were (are?) planning to eventually redevelop the areas that include Animation Courtyard in a more ambitious way.

Considering these factors, I’m a bit less down on TSL and DHS’s redevelopment than many here.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Bocabear said:
"sections" doesn't necessarily mean separate rooms... it could be separated with a half wall or some toy flats that do not go higher than 6'....and still be "Sections"...
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The building does have two sections and I think each section is to large to be just a backstage area.

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pdude81

pdude81

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Does anyone know if these reservations will just drop in early AM tomorrow for booking? The main page says to check back for more information tomorrow, but tomorrow is the 30 day mark and I really don't get they'd set a future date for reservations at this point.

FFS we still don't have F! dining packages or HEA dessert parties at this point for April. Pretty sure the Epcot packages have been up for a month already.
 

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