yensidtlaw1969
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Cool. Andy's Buzz is one size.
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ToTBellHop
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You’ve seen every Buzz Lightyear he ever owned as a child in the films? I struggle to believe a kid who is as avid of a Buzz fan as him would have only one Buzz toy. You’d have a stronger argument with Woody since he is rare.
Sometimes, we need to let a kiddie land be a kiddie land. Where this land falls short is things like inadequate seating for dining and inadequate accommodations to the Florida climate. Even Storybook Circus (not the most impressive area to me) has numerous, large, air-conditioned tents. The designers remembered this is Florida.
lazyboy97o
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The issue is not that toys come in different sizes. The Green Army Men are all one size. They do not morph into being Woody’s size. Rex does not morph into a smaller size such that he could stand on a Jenga tower. Yes, there are Army men toys that are different sizes. Yes, there are smaller dinosaur toys, but they are completely separate toys. Go buy a movie size Rex and a standard Jenga game and you can’t recreate what is in the land. Build a bench of popsicle sticks and it won’t match the size of Green Army Men.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think he’s trying to tell you to stop making excuses for bad management/WDI execution
We don’t need to carry water for the bobs.
yensidtlaw1969
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You think Disney built a 14 foot monument to Buzz Lightyear in their Toy Story Land, and it's not meant to be the one we fell in love with in the movies?
Don't think I don't have complaints about those other things too. Toy Story Land is pretty terribly designed and produced in nearly every way. Its creation was stunningly misguided.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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You mean a :50 coaster and a clone of worst ride in cars land (which is better because of the theme and LTCG soundtrack) isn’t doing it for you?
ToTBellHop
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I‘m not making excuses. The logic is flawed.
Next we will suggest they need to have demanded the Toy Soldiers played by humans somehow not be the height of actual humans.
It’s still a theme park. Tinker Bell can’t actually fly. And they can’t actually launch you into space to eat a piece of steak.
ToTBellHop
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What would you have done? Statue at the front of the ride should be 6 feet tall like the human-portrayed character? Blink and you’ll miss the statue.
Or, they could have found Na’vi to play M&G Buzz, I guess.
This is a ridiculous exercise.
lazyboy97o
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How is the logic flawed? What toys are able to morph into different sizes?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
This is silly…that’s ok…cause we do a lot of silly here…
But “what day are you going this week?” Is the gist I’m getting…my apologies
yensidtlaw1969
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You're right, a 6 foot tall statue could never fly in a theme park.
I volunteered my ideas already a page ago. And I said that the walkaround characters are only one of many examples of scale problems in Toy Story Land. There are many plausible, inexpensive solutions with consistent logic that they could have picked and they chose none of them.
lazyboy97o
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The issue isn’t just the meet and greets. Throughout the land the scale is not consistent.
yensidtlaw1969
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The real crux of the point, which people seem happy to miss, is that the issues of the land run deeper than the Meet and Greets. In a land so full of problems it's sort of silly to simply lower the bar and just pretend there are less of them.
If seeing a 6 Foot Buzz Lightyear walk by his 14 foot statue were the only problem with the land you probably wouldn't find me here talking about it. But it's unfortunately yet another mistake on a big pile of them in a project that had every reason to be well executed.
Patcheslee
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Anteater
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My family likes Goofy's Barnstormer. I bet we'd like Slinky too.
That is called casting. Humans come in a variety of sizes, the same way someone 5 foot 11 cannot play Donald Duck. So that argument if flawed in the sense that we the guests are supposed to be close to the height of the Green Army Men Action figures. This was touted by Disney.
Back to Toy Story Land's downfalls.
There is suspension of disbelief, but when the MAJOR goal of a Toy Story Theme is to be the scale....they completely failed on that.
They already messed with this in Toy Story Mania between the queue and the ride itself.
Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger Spin is more consistent and changes the scale for depth effect.
The other complaints are just as valid and are guest service based. Toy Story Land was a weak delivery on both attempts.
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yensidtlaw1969
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Just to clarify - the easy answer would have been to not build the land around stock, oversize figures of the movie's Main Characters. Have them exist in their walkaround forms making regular appearances throughout the land, conceive the whole thing around us being shrunk to their size, and then scale everything else around us accordingly.
It's not like this is some hard-hitting assignment. Pick a scale that serves the concept and then stick to it.
And build in some freakin' shade, for chrissakes.
Exactly, and then the fun imaginative stuff can come from the oversized things both toys, but also non. If one thinks back to the first film, which is odd that they could not even look at the fun of the source material for inspiration such as things that are not toys that they interacted with. So much of the humor and whimsy in that movie comes form those moments.