EPCOT New Park Entrance coming to Epcot

[FigmentFan82]

when they making a new entrance sign?

 

[CntrlFlPete]

I'm positively vexed that they didn't build any Fiber Optic pavement into the area around the Fountain in front of SSE. That would have been an obvious way to bridge "Old EPCOT" and New with a beloved element that fits the new scheme. I hope they have the sense to give it to us somewhere when the rest of the walls come down.

It is not as grand and details, but they do have Fiber Optic lighting in a ring of pavement around the fountain. Here is a (bad) picture:

 

[wdwmagic]

It is not as grand and details, but they do have Fiber Optic lighting in a ring of pavement around the fountain. Here is a (bad) picture:
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It isn't lighting, its reflective pieces in the concrete that catch the light.

 

[trainplane3]

It is not as grand and details, but they do have Fiber Optic lighting in a ring of pavement around the fountain. Here is a (bad) picture:
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Concrete mix with shiny bits.

 

[CntrlFlPete]

It isn't lighting, its reflective pieces in the concrete that catch the light.

Concrete mix with shiny bits.

Thanks! shows what I know...but I swear it looked like is was 'chasing' like a programmed sequence but I imagine it was just the upper chase light causing it. (that was taken pre beacons of lights being switched on)

 

[Bocabear]

when they making a new entrance sign?

That is the very least of their worries right now...lol

 

[peter11435]

That is the very least of their worries right now...lol

But long overdue. The auto plaza is currently in terrible condition and desperately needs a refresh. And the marquee sign there is still using a logo from the early 90’s.

 

[durangojim]

Sitting in the entrance this evening and looking at the prismatic fountain, watching the lights, and listening to the music this evening was the most EPCOT feeling thing I’ve experienced from Disney in probably ten years if not more. It was great.

 

[Tom Morrow]

A few pages ago I talked about how the lights look awesome up close, but from further away they drown out the textured geodesic surface and look a bit Vegas or carnival-ish. I think this photo demonstrates that fairly well. Mind you this was also with Night Mode, in person you couldn't really see the triangles from this distance at all and only see the LED dots.

Overall it's great, but I wish it spent less time fully lit at 100% brightness because of this.

 

[flynnibus]

The words you all are looking for are 'classy' or 'classic' vs 'gaudy' ... 'smash mouth' vs 'subtle'

Look at the Fountains at Bellagio... technically mind blowing, impressive to anyone, the scale alone blows people away... but they don't use rainbow lighting all over the place and frequently (not exclusively) use more classic music than pop-y stuff. The show comes off as grand and classy - to match the Bellagio behind it.

The globe LEDs right now is more techno showoff then classy. I hope they can find a better balance for it's use. But this is kinda to be expected... Disney went through the same growing pains with projection mapping too. There are plenty of good bones in this and potential... the key is knowing the right way to incorporate it and not fall into the trap of just making it into the choregraphed Christmas House decorations we see common now..

 

[britain]

The words you all are looking for are 'classy' or 'classic' vs 'gaudy' ... 'smash mouth' vs 'subtle'

Look at the Fountains at Bellagio... technically mind blowing, impressive to anyone, the scale alone blows people away... but they don't use rainbow lighting all over the place and frequently (not exclusively) use more classic music than pop-y stuff. The show comes off as grand and classy - to match the Bellagio behind it.

The globe LEDs right now is more techno showoff then classy. I hope they can find a better balance for it's use. But this is kinda to be expected... Disney went through the same growing pains with projection mapping too. There are plenty of good bones in this and potential... the key is knowing the right way to incorporate it and not fall into the trap of just making it into the choregraphed Christmas House decorations we see common now..

I suppose it’s better to err on the side of gaudy for the 50th anniversary, and then dial it back a little for when the party is over.

 

[Goofyernmost]

It is so hard to get people to realize that Disney Parks are fun parks. They should be fanciful and in your face. The Castle cake was just that, but so many people only saw it as if it were desecracting a shrine or something. The castle was pretty but it was and still is plastic, not real, not a shrine, just a fun building in a theme park. Spaceship Earth varies from that but only slightly. Although built with progress and engineering marvels in mind, it is still a building in a fantasy theme park. It deserves some respect, but let's not make it into a dusty museum or funeral home object. It was built to accommodate a group of scenes and animatronics shows, not feed a hungry nation. My only objection is that this highly impressive building will be remember in the future as a thing to attach lights to for entertainment only, like a movie screen. That is instead of a beautiful, one of a kind building that it is.

 

[lazyboy97o]

"Brutalism" in its purest form has no water or greenery elements.

Brutalism is about simplicity, materiality and tectonics. It has nothing against landscaping except in something that would be considered opulent as that would go against the ethos of simplicity.

 

[Tom Morrow]

It is so hard to get people to realize that Disney Parks are fun parks. They should be fanciful and in your face. The Castle cake was just that, but so many people only saw it as if it were desecracting a shrine or something. The castle was pretty but it was and still is plastic, not real, not a shrine, just a fun building in a theme park. Spaceship Earth varies from that but only slightly. Although built with progress and engineering marvels in mind, it is still a building in a fantasy theme park. It deserves some respect, but let's not make it into a dusty museum or funeral home object. It was built to accommodate a group of scenes and animatronics shows, not feed a hungry nation. My only objection is that this highly impressive building will be remember in the future as a thing to attach lights to for entertainment only, like a movie screen. That is instead of a beautiful, one of a kind building that it is.

You're kind of contradicting yourself here. Is it just a thing that houses a ride, or is it a beautiful, one-of-a-kind building?

(it's the second one)

Edit: I didn't read close enough. You hinted that it has slightly more significance than the castle. My take is that just because it's in a theme park doesn't make it not an important structure to the world.

 

[matt9112]

You're kind of contradicting yourself here. Is it just a thing that houses a ride, or is it a beautiful, one-of-a-kind building?

(it's the second one)

100% the fact that the "fun" of a building is being tossed out as sone excuse is absurd. To me the parks have deeper value. It's just fun is something you say about cedar point

 

[Goofyernmost]

You're kind of contradicting yourself here. Is it just a thing that houses a ride, or is it a beautiful, one-of-a-kind building?

(it's the second one)

Edit: I didn't read close enough. You hinted that it has slightly more significance than the castle. My take is that just because it's in a theme park doesn't make it not an important structure to the world.

Now you have me confused are you talking about the castle or SSE? SSE is more significant because it is a one of a kind spectacular building that houses an equally impressive theme park ride. It is both! The Castle, although attractive, is one of many castles just within the Disney Company alone and it is just molded plastic common structure on a framework body and it houses nothing. (Sorry it does have a restaurant and an elaborate hotel room that isn't used for anything worthwhile.) It isn't the first of it's kind nor is it even slightly real. There were castles in roadside parks when I was a kid some 65 years ago. The castle was engineered well, but is hardly a engineering marvel. SSE is a structure that was not only extremely difficult to build, the first of it's kind, but also extremely courageous of Disney to even build and putting a ride in there in an upward spiral was ingenious.

Spoiler: NOTE:

I believe that the Castle in Disneyland Paris is actually constructed of real building materials because Europe is the land of real castles and to do any less would be insulting.

 

[Rich Brownn]

It is so hard to get people to realize that Disney Parks are fun parks. They should be fanciful and in your face. The Castle cake was just that, but so many people only saw it as if it were desecracting a shrine or something. The castle was pretty but it was and still is plastic, not real, not a shrine, just a fun building in a theme park. Spaceship Earth varies from that but only slightly. Although built with progress and engineering marvels in mind, it is still a building in a fantasy theme park. It deserves some respect, but let's not make it into a dusty museum or funeral home object. It was built to accommodate a group of scenes and animatronics shows, not feed a hungry nation. My only objection is that this highly impressive building will be remember in the future as a thing to attach lights to for entertainment only, like a movie screen. That is instead of a beautiful, one of a kind building that it is.

It wasn't because it was a desecration or anything. It was simply the birthday cake castle was hideously ugly and cheap looking.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

It wasn't because it was a desecration or anything. It was simply the birthday cake castle was hideously ugly and cheap looking.

Yup. It looked like something a small, local park would do (King's Castle Land in MA comes to mind...it was a VERY small amusement park with lots of sculpted concrete).

 

[Goofyernmost]

It wasn't because it was a desecration or anything. It was simply the birthday cake castle was hideously ugly and cheap looking.

I understand that, what I don't understand is why anyone would just look at that and say that is ugly and cheap looking. For one thing look at it, The planning and engineering that had to go into that to make it fit every part of the castle was hardly cheap. It looked whimsical and in my mind that is exactly what a theme park like MK should look like. Not just whimsical but whimsical in a very exact and detailed way. I knew it wasn't anything designed to be "classy" it was meant to be fun, like a party for the 25th anniversary. So the multi-personality expectations are that MK should be fun and creative, but in a non-humorous, solemn way?

 

[G00fyDad]

I understand that, what I don't understand is why anyone would just look at that and say that is ugly and cheap looking. For one thing look at it, The planning and engineering that had to go into that to make it fit every part of the castle was hardly cheap. It looked whimsical and in my mind that is exactly what a theme park like MK should look like. Not just whimsical but whimsical in a very exact and detailed way. I knew it wasn't anything designed to be "classy" it was meant to be fun, like a party for the 25th anniversary. So the multi-personality expectations are that MK should be fun and creative, but in a non-humorous, solemn way?

People were upset (me included) because it is a desired and expected photograph icon and some of those people were at Disney for a once in a rare occasion trip. They got into the park only to discover that Disney took a park icon and vomited pink all over it. It was a big let down for a lot of people.