Click Here to see a picture in my album that I took of the new moniters outside carousel of progress on friday!
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New Moniters Outside Carousel of Progress
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longfamily
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There's a great big beautiful tomorrow....
General Grizz
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Thanks for the photos! These were installed a bit back. I *always* get chills walking up to CoP and hearing its version of the theme song. It makes me so happy. And, I guess, a little fearful of the future.
To answer your poll, yes, Carousel of Progress SHOULD be updated. First of all, it was the only attraction that Walt Disney requested stay in his parks as long as they existed. ONE attraction out of hundreds in the United States, and do you know how much we owe Walt Disney? Everything in this discussion board, not to mention - well - that's getting a bit off topic.
But back to Carousel of Progress, Walt never wanted his parks to be a museum, which makes guests say that CoP should get the cutting block. In contrast, I believe Walt Disney intended this attraction to be updated (as it has been in the 70s and early 90s) and serve as a *living* tribtue to dreaming and doing.
Plain and simple: The Carousel of Progress message is no longer coming out of Disney. The attractions that had the "Dream it and do it" slogan are lessening in number: Horizons, Motion, a seasonal Timekeeper. . . Carousel of Progress is it. It's the last great attraction to truly express Walt's message. And isn't it necessary to have a little - at least - WALT DISNEY in WALT DISNEY World? This is one place where the DISNEY message is connected to the Walt Disney Company in the new millenium.
Carousel of Progress is unique. There's no other way today that kids can learn about progress as effectively. Not in a museum, not in a school. In that sense, Carousel of Progress is an educative, inspiring necessity for new generations who should look to the past for inspiration on dreaming the future. At least have this bold message sitting in a Tomorrowland that has increasing random attractions, i.e. Stitch/Buzz.
I'd also argue that Carousel of Progress is a classic. It's right in there with Haunted Mansion, Country Bear Jamboree, IaSW, and Pirates of the Caribbean as far as nostalgia goes. It also came at the time of Walt's pinnacle: 1964. Since then, it's become a landmark: The longest-running stageshow in the history of American theatre. And from what I've heard, the most visited stage show in theatre.
Families still love progress. You'll hear stories of singing along, clapping, and laughing from the latest 1994 version. Attendance has slipped, but there are always guests riding. Whether you had a 100% capacity theatre or a 20 person late-night showing, guests are always in the six-theatre-in-the-round.
The best way to ensure that CoP can succeed in gaining more visitors is through updating it. The animatronics are in desperate need for replacement, and the entire building can use a glorification - not to mention a more dashing exterior. With a brand new script and finale (not to mention a nice update/wow factor included in the new scenes and preshow), the park map could advertise what the pavilion is really all about to guests without a clue - and if Disney's generous, they'd let them know this is "Walt's baby."
In short, it is a family attraction celebration exactly what Disney is about. The American Dream, the family, and making dreams come true.
"There's a great big beautiful tomorrow" - that's the song that played on Walt Disney's last televised program, his description of the Florida Project and EPCOT. It just goes to show the power of that song, which has been playing in his carousel theatre.
It delights me to experience this attraction for what magic its originality still gives off to the new generations in an ever-changing world. . .
To answer your poll, yes, Carousel of Progress SHOULD be updated. First of all, it was the only attraction that Walt Disney requested stay in his parks as long as they existed. ONE attraction out of hundreds in the United States, and do you know how much we owe Walt Disney? Everything in this discussion board, not to mention - well - that's getting a bit off topic.
But back to Carousel of Progress, Walt never wanted his parks to be a museum, which makes guests say that CoP should get the cutting block. In contrast, I believe Walt Disney intended this attraction to be updated (as it has been in the 70s and early 90s) and serve as a *living* tribtue to dreaming and doing.
Plain and simple: The Carousel of Progress message is no longer coming out of Disney. The attractions that had the "Dream it and do it" slogan are lessening in number: Horizons, Motion, a seasonal Timekeeper. . . Carousel of Progress is it. It's the last great attraction to truly express Walt's message. And isn't it necessary to have a little - at least - WALT DISNEY in WALT DISNEY World? This is one place where the DISNEY message is connected to the Walt Disney Company in the new millenium.
Carousel of Progress is unique. There's no other way today that kids can learn about progress as effectively. Not in a museum, not in a school. In that sense, Carousel of Progress is an educative, inspiring necessity for new generations who should look to the past for inspiration on dreaming the future. At least have this bold message sitting in a Tomorrowland that has increasing random attractions, i.e. Stitch/Buzz.
I'd also argue that Carousel of Progress is a classic. It's right in there with Haunted Mansion, Country Bear Jamboree, IaSW, and Pirates of the Caribbean as far as nostalgia goes. It also came at the time of Walt's pinnacle: 1964. Since then, it's become a landmark: The longest-running stageshow in the history of American theatre. And from what I've heard, the most visited stage show in theatre.
Families still love progress. You'll hear stories of singing along, clapping, and laughing from the latest 1994 version. Attendance has slipped, but there are always guests riding. Whether you had a 100% capacity theatre or a 20 person late-night showing, guests are always in the six-theatre-in-the-round.
The best way to ensure that CoP can succeed in gaining more visitors is through updating it. The animatronics are in desperate need for replacement, and the entire building can use a glorification - not to mention a more dashing exterior. With a brand new script and finale (not to mention a nice update/wow factor included in the new scenes and preshow), the park map could advertise what the pavilion is really all about to guests without a clue - and if Disney's generous, they'd let them know this is "Walt's baby."
In short, it is a family attraction celebration exactly what Disney is about. The American Dream, the family, and making dreams come true.
"There's a great big beautiful tomorrow" - that's the song that played on Walt Disney's last televised program, his description of the Florida Project and EPCOT. It just goes to show the power of that song, which has been playing in his carousel theatre.
It delights me to experience this attraction for what magic its originality still gives off to the new generations in an ever-changing world. . .
General Grizz
New Member
I have the boxing ring set up! Come on! Show your face to the bear!ImaginEAR said:All right, who voted that it should be replaced? You're about to face the wrath of General Grizz.
Nah, only kidding. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That's why we're a Dis-ocracy. Or something.
One Lil Spark
EPCOT Center Defender
Well, if they're investing more money in the attraction for upkeep that's GOT to be a good sign! :sohappy:
Tim G
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IMO they're Plasma ScreensFamilyMan said:Well, hopefully. LCD screens can easilly be moved to another attraction. So, until we get some true animatronic replacement, it's hard to say what will happen a year or two from now. But for the next year, it should be safe.
DarkMeasures
New Member
Corrus said:IMO they're Plasma Screens
That doesn't make any sense. You can't have an opinion on what something is made out of.
Anyway, the CoP needs to be updated to stay in the 20th century but cover every 20 years as in 1900, 1920, 1940, 1960, 1980, 2000. With loading and unloading, that would make 8 scenes which the current version does not have the capacity to fit. So, I would also want the CoP building to be enlarged and moved to Epcot where it belongs.
General Grizz
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I'd really like to hear from those who say it shouldn't be updated. Care to post about that?
General Grizz
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You voted to keep it but not update it? Budget?Corrus said:
General Grizz
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Gotcha.Corrus said:I voted: replace it...Just edited my previous post...
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