New MARVEL attractions to Disney Parks

cooleo

Well-Known Member
I would really like to see Aqua Man be brought to the Big Screen. I can only imagine what could be done with that one.
 

Disday

Member
I had an interesting e-mail exchange with Universal Orlando today. That's all I'm allowed to say about it. Seriously, did you know if you ask Guest Relations a question they have all kinds of legal restrictions about the exchange? Maybe, it was the question I asked - interesting. Give it a try. :)
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
This contract/legal confusion is making my head hurt. I'm more of a DC guy anyway. Bring on Dark Knight Rises!! :cool:

I saw the preview for DK. I was a little disappointed in it. I didn't feel overly eager for the movie. Going to go see it none the less, but the trailer did not inspire me that much. Maybe because I know its the last in this version of Batman.
 

Skip

Well-Known Member
i had an interesting e-mail exchange with universal orlando today. That's all i'm allowed to say about it. Seriously, did you know if you ask guest relations a question they have all kinds of legal restrictions about the exchange? Maybe, it was the question i asked - interesting. Give it a try. :)

:roflol:
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
I had an interesting e-mail exchange with Universal Orlando today. That's all I'm allowed to say about it. Seriously, did you know if you ask Guest Relations a question they have all kinds of legal restrictions about the exchange? Maybe, it was the question I asked - interesting. Give it a try. :)

I'll pass. Plenty of legal disclaimers hit me in day to dy life. No need to seek them out.
 

Duckfan

Member
Dr. Strange has very strong ties to the Avengers. In fact, he is one.

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Just about every Marvel hero worth mentioning has been an Avenger at one point or another though.
 

lazyboy97o

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Marvel likely approved the upgrades to the Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man. What people seem to not notice is that Disney has yet to replace Marvel's executives. It's mostly the same people who were there before the acquisition. Disney ordering Marvel to stop cooperating with Universal would like send the matter(s) into arbitration as it would not be a reasonable action to deny Universal the ability to use the characters. The big hurdle is that the contract alludes to a style guide which dictates how the Marvels characters and Marvel universe is to be representing, this would likely be the basis for what is reasonable.

Even if the suits don't want to do anything with the current contractual situation, unfortunately, no matter what anyone thinks, the performance of The Avengers, if it continues will force them to change that line of thinking rather quickly.

How so? Money talks.

If The Avengers proves to be a true billion dollar franchise, producing billion dollar sequel, and billions of dollars in merchandising revenue, Disney suits, and no matter what anyone wants to think, the Disney board will take notice, I assure you, that is just good business.

If millions of people demand to have Marvel at Disney World, guess what, Disney will cave. This isn't the Adventurers Club where a couple hundred people are upset the place closed, this is a potential huge revenue stream Disney more than likely wants to capitalize on for the next 10 years. If the people want it bad enough, Disney will give it to them.

Pirates became a billion dollar franchise, first thing Disney did, after counting the money was put those characters in the parks.

Uni has the Marvel characters for now, but who is to say Disney can't raise the licensing fee because of the recent success of the Marvel characters, which Disney could say is causing increased traffic to IoA? Realistically, thats a good argument.


There is a lot to this subject, more than meets the eye.



Jimmy Thick-Was that a Transformers plug?

And this contract says Disney can't raise licensing fee's on any kind of timetable? I find that extremely hard to believe. Dollars when the contract was originally signed are different from dollars now.



Jimmy Thick-Common sense or cents?

If that is really the case, Marvel got hosed.



Jimmy Thick-I just won't go there...
Why not just read the contract for yourself? It's short and rather easy for non-lawyers to understand. Sure would beat constantly taking wild shots in the dark.

The liscensing fee increases every year in accordance with the Consumer Price Index (inflation). An massive increase in the licensing fee means hell for us as it means we're dealing with massive inflation. There is also the cut from merchandise, which must be purchased from Marvel or a licensed vendor.

As stated, at the time it was a great deal for Marvel. They were heading towards bankruptcy, which they declared about a year and a half after filing the contract. This type of deal may even have helped Marvel survive its bankruptcy as Universal was providing a nearly guaranteed amount of annual income that required little expense on Marvel's part. Nearly guaranteed profit is much more important when your in the red than hoping you'll become massively popular, through films of all things, a decade down the road.
 

lazyboy97o

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I had an interesting e-mail exchange with Universal Orlando today. That's all I'm allowed to say about it. Seriously, did you know if you ask Guest Relations a question they have all kinds of legal restrictions about the exchange? Maybe, it was the question I asked - interesting. Give it a try. :)
And Guest Relations, who are just front line employees, at Disney had to deny that Bay Lake Tower was being built despite it being clearly visible.
 

Captain Neo

Well-Known Member
The problem is the comic book industry is, for all intents and purposes, dead to the general public. $3+ books sold only through direct marketing channels are not ending up in the hands of kids. There's a reason there hasn't been a truly iconic superhero created since the 70s (Wolverine, and even then, not all that kid-friendly).

If Marvel could just create a new "theme park ride worthy" superhero out of thin air, they would have done so two decades ago just to cash in on the toys and movies.

Spawn, Venom, Lobo, Static Shock, Cyborg, Doomsday, and many more are extremely iconic heroes and villains and all came well after the 70s. So I'm not sure what your talking about
 

Skip

Well-Known Member
Spawn, Venom, Lobo, Static Shock, Cyborg, Doomsday, and many more are extremely iconic heroes and villains and all came well after the 70s. So I'm not sure what your talking about

With the exception of Spawn and Venom, I haven't heard of any of those guys... But who knows. If you can make a C-lister (Ironman) an A-lister, why not a D-lister?
 

|Q|

Active Member
Disney Vs. Superheroes: PKNA

I was thinking... all this debating i see on american forums about Marvel characters in the parks... and well, here in Italy Disney characters are a lot popular on comic book format, mostly thanx to TOPOLINO (it's or name for Mickey Mouse), a weekly small sized comics magazine that has been published in Italy since 1932 (hey, Mickey was only 4!). Most of the material published there it's written a drawn by the Walt Disney Company Italia, official branch of WDC. Starting at the end of the '60s in italian stories started to pop up superheroes alter egoes of our classic characters. The most popular of them all being Paperinik, Donald's masked vigilante counterpart (in my country Donald is called "Paperino")

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck_in_comics#Paperinik_.28Duck_Avenger.29

The character, just like Donald, had mostly comedy stories, but in the middle of the '90s something happened. Disney greenlighted a new comic book sized magazine (TOPOLINO has a smaller, thicker format) called "PKNA - Paperinik New Adventures". The story presented keeps the comedy overtones, but puts them in a darker, more adventurous and fantascientific setting.
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Our character still lives in Duckburg, but the story offers new friends and new foes. It was a really cool comic book, it lasted about 5 years, than was slowly killed by stories each time more childish than the issue before. That was really sad.

You can find more infos here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKNA

Anyway, i've read that it was published in countries beside Italy, and i was wondering, has somebody ever heard about/read it?

Q

(actually, i'm not sure i'm not goin off topic, if it's the case i'm sorry)
 

wdwfan4ver

Well-Known Member
It actually would be 3 things for Disney getting Marvel into Walt Disney World.

The first thing to look at is Universal has DC Comics, but not theme park rights. Six Flags has DC comics for theme park rides.

The 2nd thing is Six Flags has a long history of having financial problems and that means Universal gets theme parks rights to DC if Six Flags can't come back from bankruptcy when Six Flags runs into more financial problems. The question would be in that cause would Universal be willing to give up rights to Marvel for putting DC comics into their theme parks.

The third thing is Universal can't keep refurbishing their Marvel attractions forever.

With all this being said, I wouldn't be shocked if Disney announces Marvel attractions at D23 next year, but not for Walt Disney World.
 

Captain Chaos

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It actually would be 3 things for Disney getting Marvel into Walt Disney World.

The first thing to look at is Universal has DC Comics, but not theme park rights. Six Flags has DC comics for theme park rides.

The 2nd thing is Six Flags has a long history of having financial problems and that means Universal gets theme parks rights to DC if Six Flags can't come back from bankruptcy when Six Flags runs into more financial problems. The question would be in that cause would Universal be willing to give up rights to Marvel for putting DC comics into their theme parks.

The third thing is Universal can't keep refurbishing their Marvel attractions forever.

With all this being said, I wouldn't be shocked if Disney announces Marvel attractions at D23 next year, but not for Walt Disney World.

Six Flags is also in good financial shape right now... Not great but better than where they were... Their stock is up to over $47.00 now as well ($2.00 more that Disney's stock)... They are even offering a quarterly dividend of $.60... So the company is doing just fine...
 

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