New Jim Hill Update - Monsters Inc. Coaster On Hold??

mr.flibble

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As the title of the thread says:

Source - http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_h...monday-mouse-watch-coasting-through-2009.aspx

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Last month, the very last piece of track for Manta was bolted into place. Which means that -- starting this summer -- SeaWorld Orlando guests will get the chance to experience this new mega-attraction. Twisting through four different inversions as they whiz along 3,359 feet of track at nearly 60 MPH.

Meanwhile, over at Universal Studios Florida, construction crews are hurrying to get Hollywood Rip, Ride Rockit ready for its May 2009 debut. Which is when this new Central Florida thrill ride promises to take its very first passengers to new heights. Some 17 stories above that studio theme park before this coaster then hurtles toward the ground at 65 MPH.
So what is Walt Disney World doing in response to these high profile thrill rides? Well, the Resort had hoped to begin construction of a "Monsters, Inc." -themed family coaster for Disney's Hollywood Studios sometime later this year. But that project is now on hold as Disney meets with potential sponsors. While the Mouse searches for some corporation in this economy that's still willing to pony up the dough necessary to transform Soundstage One into the Door Hangar from that 2001 Pixar Animation Studios release.
From what I hear, construction on this new DHS attraction will begin just as soon as that sponsor signs on the dotted line. Which means that this "Monsters, Inc." coaster should still be open in plenty of time for WDW's 40th anniversary celebration, which is now tentatively scheduled to begin in January of 2011. But the very fact that Disney isn't willing to proceed on its own with this can't-miss project, that Mickey won't allow construction to begin until outside funding is in place speaks volumes about the Mouse's monetary mindset these days.
Mind you, there are a lot of folks in WDW management who aren't all that thrilled with how tight-fisted the boys back in Burbank have become. They're arguing that -- instead of being so fiscally prudent right now -- this is when The Walt Disney Company really needs to be bold. Greenlighting construction of all sort of E-Tickets for its Central Florida parks which can then open in 2010 and beyond.

"What's so important about 2010 and beyond?," you ask. That's when The Wizarding World of Harry Potter is expected to come on line at IOA. And the worry right now -- at least among Mouse House managers -- is that the American Idol Experience, Disney's Kim Possible World Showcase Adventure, Stitch's Supersonic Celebration and the Move It, Shake It, Celebrate It! Street Party won't really be strong enough to go head-to-head with J.K. Rowling's much-beloved characters. And that in spite of all those roadblocks that the Mouse has already put in place (i.e. Disney's Magical Express making it difficult for Guests to get off-property all on their own, the Disney Dining Plan making it seem extremely wasteful to eat anywhere other than the restaurants at WDW's theme parks & Resorts) people will leave Walt Disney World next year and go over to Islands of Adventure to see Harry. And if these WDW Guests like what they see while they're visiting IOA, they may wind up staying at the Universal Orlando Resort rather than Disney World during their next trip to Central Florida.
This is why -- in addition to that "Monsters, Inc." -themed family coaster for DHS -- WDW executives were hoping that Disney Company management would fork over the dough necessary to build a clone of DCA's "The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Adventure" dark ride for the Magic Kingdom. So that Disney World would then have two new high profile attractions featuring well-known Disney & Pixar characters to hype in the face of The Wizarding World of Harry Potter.

But these days, the suits in the Michael Eisner Building aren't willing to look two & three years down the line. They're more concerned with nursing WDW through the next two & three months. Which is why they're insisting on increased efficiency. Putting in cost containment measures wherever they can. Which is why typically 20% of the requisitions that are currently being made for the Resort are routinely rejected for being unessential.
Of course, if on-property occupancy rates start to improve by late Spring, the boys back in Burbank may loosen their vise-like grip on WDW's purse strings and then allow that Resort to move forward with construction of some high profile projects. But what concerns Disney World managers is ... Well, that means postponing any real decisions 'til almost six months from now. A time when two of their Central Florida rivals will have already opened brand-new major thrill rides. More importantly, when the Universal Orlando Resort will be entering the final phase of construction on The Wizarding World of Harry Potter.
Now I know that many Disneyana fans -- given their I-only-pay-attention-to-what-Mickey-is-doing-and-I-don't-care-what-the-Mouse's-rivals-are-up-to attitude -- don't really give a rat's @ss about what goes on off-property. But believe it or not, the executives who run the Walt Disney World Resort don't operate in a vacuum. These folks are always aware of what Universal & SeaWorld are up to. They pay incredibly close attention to their Central Florida competition. Which is why these suits are concerned that the boys back in Burbank -- by putting the brakes on construction of anything of size for the WDW theme parks for at least the next six months -- may unintentionally be hobbling Disney World into 2010 and 2011. And that -- by coasting through the first half of 2009 -- the Resort may then be forced to pay catch-up with its competition for the next five years or so.

Obviously the executives back in California have a very different take on this situation. They argue that -- because the Walt Disney Company is a publicly-held corporation -- that they have a obligation to the company's shareholders to be fiscally responsible. And given that Parks & Resorts' own surveys show that Disney World could go a full six years without adding a new ride or show to WDW's current assortment of attractions before there'd then be any really noticable drop in attendance and/or occupancy levels ... Well, why spend money now on Disney World when the company really doesn't have to? Would it be better -- or, at the very least, more fiscally responsible -- to ride out the current economic situation? And then -- on the other side of this crisis -- re-evaluate. See if it's then really necessary to make any sizable reinvestment in the WDW Resort.
Which is why -- for now, anyway -- there's nothing gone on inside of Soundstage One at Disney's Hollywood Studios. As the Walt Disney Company tries to coast through the first six months of 2009 by spending as little as possible on the WDW Resort.
Your thoughts?
 

kcnole

Well-Known Member
I really don't think Jim Hill has any real contacts any more. He seems to be guessing more than anything lately or taking ideas from other message boards. This idea has been discussed more and more on these forums lately.
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
Interesting point. A fan could infer much of what JH posts. Still...it could be correct. I actually think a WDW attendance drop when HP opens could be the best thing for the resort in the long-term. Of course, some investment now could avoid this problem, but it's unclear if WDW is going to do that.
 

wvdisneyfamily

Well-Known Member
One of the guide books I was reading seems to put a lot of faith in Jim Hill. I'm not saying I agree with them or anyhing. It seems like every page has a "This is what Jim Hill thinks" box.
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
One of the guide books I was reading seems to put a lot of faith in Jim Hill. I'm not saying I agree with them or anyhing. It seems like every page has a "This is what Jim Hill thinks" box.

I've seen that flipping through Disney books in a bookstore. Don't they have a little cartoon Jim Hill drawn? Which guide book is it?

I find his writing style to be very odd. I'm not sure why he thinks the "whyfor" is such a great thing.
 

captainkidd

Well-Known Member
I've seen that flipping through Disney books in a bookstore. Don't they have a little cartoon Jim Hill drawn? Which guide book is it?

I find his writing style to be very odd. I'm not sure why he thinks the "whyfor" is such a great thing.

I think that's the Unofficial Guide.
 

DisneyMusician2

Well-Known Member
It's the Unofficial Guide that has the "Disney Dish with Jim Hill" throughout its pages. They are mostly blue sky rumors that the authors include for a bit of reading for those who know about the parks and some cool facts that people wouldn't know unless they were true Disney experts.

Most on this board would be familiar with most of the stories and comments, but they are especially informative for the uninitiated.
 

wvdisneyfamily

Well-Known Member
I'm reading the 3 of the 4 new ones I got for Christmas at the same time and they are starting to run together. None of it is news to me really. I just thought I'd throw that in since the subject was Jim Hill and his rumors.
 

mr.flibble

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Original Poster
I come onto these boards practically everday but i very rarely post and the topic of the Monsters Inc. Coster does crop up quite often.

It is a bit difficult to tell if Jim Hill has any reliable sources or if he is just picking up information from forums.But some things he does say seem to make sense. I think more people in the know or have better information then me, might be able to add to this quick list:

i. Disney do appear to be cost costing. Space Mountain refurb anyone?

ii. They are very fond of sponsorship deals, especially in epcot. And if they are unwilling to finance a project fully themselves, then management see it as the best way to go?

iii. There seems to be a general consensus amongst management with regards to WDW to possibly not improve but just maintain - if its not broken why fix it? Especially in the current financial climate, why put millions into a project that may not have any impact on current WDW attendance?

iv. Although brilliant new attractions and ideas going into Universal and Sea World? Will it rarely impact upon attendance? I can't honestly see a big shift. But its hard to say what will happen in the next 6 months never mind 12, 18 months. For Brits, the appeal of a holiday to Florida was always to meet Mickey Mouse. Universal or Sea World has generally been an after thought. But as Jim Hill states. Harry Potter is going to have some major drawing power.

I think the one thing that Disney are probably more worried about, is getting guests to stay at the resorts and make sure attendance doesnt drop here.In my opinion, in order to make sure guests stay at the resourts you have to always give them a reason to stay their and come back. Surely the best the way to do that is by maintaining, improving and adding to the parks. And when I say add, I dont mean with an American Idol attraction, but rather something that will make you go WOW??
 

brucie

Active Member
I would rather have a new Star Tours adventure than Monsters inc. coaster.


AGREED!!! But both would be better and a complete overhaul of the ride would be even better not just a new video. Or even better a second Star Wars Dark Thrill Ride completely different than anything we have ever seen. Come on Lucas and Disney lets get something different and new and blow everything else out of the water!! If anyone can do it it's these 2 companies combined!!
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
Disney bigwigs are not concerned with Harry Potter.

Did Islands of Adventure (which is an entirely new "state-of-the-art" park) have any affect on WDW attendance? If so, very minimal.

Because of this...they see no real "need" to do anything.

(Harry Potter is huge...but so is Spider-Man, the Incredible Hulk (no pun intended), Dr. Seuss, etc.)
 

Enigma

Account Suspended
Disney bigwigs are not concerned with Harry Potter.

Did Islands of Adventure (which is an entirely new "state-of-the-art" park) have any affect on WDW attendance? If so, very minimal.

Because of this...they see no real "need" to do anything.

(Harry Potter is huge...but so is Spider-Man, the Incredible Hulk (no pun intended), Dr. Seuss, etc.)

Harry Potter eclipses Spiderman, dr.seuess, disney, etc.
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
No
Harry Potter will get me to Universal for the first time, but not at the expense of WDW. When we go in August 2010 I'm adding an extra week, driving down, staying on property at WDW and taking some days to go to Universal and Sea World. But I'll still do my normal week of WDW parks.
 

Foladar

Member
I think Disney could benefit from Harry Potter, too. Some people who haven't been to Orlando might visit for Harry Potter, and have an extended vacation including Disney. Of course, they will lose some people for atleast one vacation, but I think those people already have their sights set on Harry Potter. And competition is good!
 

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